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Just read that Jeanine Pirro is 73. If you gonna deal with her, you’ll need your A game.
If you gonna deal with her, you need a coupla gatorades and a 5-star customer rating on Uber.
Please. I’d throw fastballs by her all day long. No one. And I mean no one. Could stop me from getting a continuance
Just what an old person would say. lol
Yep. Sounds like your favorite law school class was the My Cousin Vinny seminar.
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Hey I was calling for a favor
You want a continuance
That’s right
I can’t. I’ve done it too many times
Well that’s a shame
I’m sorry
No. No. I get it. So do you want to do this the hard way or the easy way.
What’s that.
Oh you know. You can shoot me an email now saying you consent or tomorrow morning you can put on a full suit and wait in the cattle call for an hour until we’re called at which point I’ll put on an entire production and will refuse to leave until I get it rolled and you’ll be trapped all morning.
Right. I’ll send you an email that I can’t consent but don’t object.
Thanks
Speed rarely brings cash justice
I thought you might play the “ my mother died” card. But you can only do that once per judge, so there is that.
Makes me think of MASH:
Klinger reads Henry a letter from his mom that says his dad's dying]
Henry Blake: The father dying, right?
Klinger: Yes, sir.
Henry Blake: [takes out a stack of papers and reads them] Father dying last year. Mother dying last year. Mother AND father dying. Mother, father, and older sister dying. Mother dying and older sister pregnant. Older sister dying and mother pregnant. Younger sister pregnant and older sister dying. Here's an oldie but a goodie: Half of the family dying, other half pregnant
Having been on the defendant end of the judicial system, and recently the plaintiff side I appreciate a continuance. The legal system moves slow for a good reason.
So lawyers can bill more?
Sorry, it is a law one must give the legal profession a hard time whenever one sees the chance.
When you're looking at jail time you appreciate the process
My favorite is when Paul Newman in the verdict shows up at the judge’s house to ask for a continuance
When you have been wrongly accused on an assault charge and they stick a 2nd degree manslaughter on you, you, appreciate the process
For sure! Were you able to show that if you intended to kill it could happen. Like that. In a second. By training. By instinct.
And that this was an accident?
I showed up to a fight, to help a friend out. Things went sideways. Guy fell and hit his head, I gave him first aid, cpr all that.
I didn't throw a punch, I was just there.
My dad’s best friend killed a guy when they were in their early 20s. Punched him in a bar. Guy hit his head and died. Went to prison. For a long time. Awful.
Yeah my friend turned out ok. It was over a girlfriend
Lol, yeah, all my problems usually involve a female.
The legal system indeed moves slow, but mostly not for good reasons. The system is bogged down by excessive process, some of it due, some of it just BS. This is a hold over from 200 years of tradition.
The legal system is bogged down by excessive intelligence. By that I mean too many lawyers and judges use the system to display their knowledge and intelligence. Just about any Supreme Court opinion is an example. The important holdings in most cases can be expressed and explained in a few pages, yet the opinion drags on for dozens of pages. That takes time.
Excessive timidity and lack of confidence in lawyers are another example. Lawyers who are unsure of themselves will take more time to do everything.
I could go on, but I don’t have time.
It took my wife 2.5 years and almost $30k in lawyer fees to get in to court recently. Sometimes it is way too slow.
Lmao I’ve handled cases in more than a dozen states. Probably 50 or more counties . Lawyers who are busy take more time. Lawyers who actually have to prove the case, find and hire experts, pivot when needed. Lawyers who aren’t doing the exact same case over and over but have mdls, med mal, products, bad drugs, with billion dollar corps on the other side take longer. Bad faith claims take longer. Prosecuting cases takes longer and is much more difficult than representing your local co or defending anything really
Lawyers who do easier shit do it faster. Unsure of themselves. Gtfo
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From writing contracts, to doing briefs, to negotiating issues, to doing everything, way too much time is taken.
I’ve told this story before. I was handling a small condemnation case against a wealthy owner who hired a huge firm to represent him. After protracted discussions we settled pretty much a long te lines I knew we would. We met a Saturday morning to finalize the paperwork. I show up with a check and a deed to be signed. The big firm guy wouldn’t approve the deed because he is a litigator not a real estate lawyer. What kind of lawyer can’t approve a deed?! Multiply this by a thousand daily interactions and it becomes pretty clear why the process is so damn slow.
Another quicky. I was pretty good friends with a guy who was a former lawyer, district court judge, and co Supreme Court justice. I invited him to have dinner with our firm and give a short talk about anything he wanted. He accepted and talked about the excessive wordiness of briefs and how that bogged down the system. That applied to all cases and all levels of case complexity.
A final quicky The daughter of my best friend was an associate at Gibson, Dunn. She told me about the amount of busy works she did that was unnecessary and bogged down big cases. She hated it and left.
I stand by my comment that a huge amount of time is wasted because of excessive lack of confidence.
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I represented archdiocese, big tobacco, big sugar and other big outfits on the defense and litigated every kind of complex litigation matter you can think of again all over the country. I walked into courtrooms all over the country and never once felt anything but supremely confident in myself. Represented people from Tommy Lee jones to the bin ladens. I can tell you there is zero chance I could approve a deed. I have no idea
Experiences must vary
I have a buddy who buys and sells stuff related to a specific industry. Let's pretend it is the auto industry. He had to quit selling "Ferrari" (it wasn't auto nor Ferrari) because of a cease and desist letter. He went to his lawyer, and his lawyer said he had the right to sell the items, as he had kept meticulous records and acquired them through proper means, and he would win. But that it would take at least $30,000 to win the court case, as "Ferrari" would drag it out as long as humanly possible to drive up his costs. Of course, it wasn't economical for him to fight it, so he quit dealing in their stuff.
Slow probably does favor the big guy with lawyers on payroll over the little guy paying by the hour.
Would you represent a condemnee? If you would I think you should know how to do a deed.
How long was your typical deposition of opposing experts? Mine was usually a couple of hours. But Some lawyers would take all day.
depends on the complexity of hte case. trust me i only ever wanted to get to happy hour so as fast as possible but some took all day. complex torts etc.
One thing I learned after a few years (more confident) never ask an opposing expert warm any up questions. That will save at least an hour. Experts love to talk about how good they are.
The most complex tort case I had (I even hired a DU torts prof to help) involved 3 opposing experts. IIRC we did all of them in a day.
First med mal depo I went to I was in shock. My old boss just sat down. No handshakes. Nothing.
Was time to start and he goes:
Well John what did you do to screw this one up?
Objection. Objection. I did no such thing. And I’m Dr Smith
Well we’re here aren’t we.
The man never took a call from an adjuster. Never sent a demand. Filed everything with the expectation he’d try it
Hard way to live
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