Speaking of cognitive decline

[Marvin the Martian]

If drug companies fight Trump's executive order on medicine, he is going to block them from selling cars and alcohol.

Trump's rambling drug company rant makes absolutely 'no sense'

Donald Trump went off on a bizarre rant about drug companies and people are beyond baffled.When asked about his executive order that aims to reduce high prescription drug prices, Trump said: "If they fight, we'll just say, 'That's ok, we're just not gonna let you sell any more cars into the US...

www.indy100.com

That's disappointing. The new model Pfizer roadster looks sharp.

It won't be possible to really know if Trump develops cognitive issues because just about everything he says is non-sequitur. If most of us hold up a picture of Congo and claim it to be South Africa there might be a cause for alarm. For him it is just another press conference.

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/trumps-image-dead-white-farmers-came-reuters-footage-congo-not-south-africa-2025-05-22/

I don't *think* he has problems, but given how bigly inaccurate he is so often, I don't know how we would tell if there is a deeper problem.

What we need is a law going toward that any president has to take a yearly public cognitive exam.

 

[outside shooter]

While it was an awkward statement, he is likely referring to the fact that many of the major pharmas are based in Europe and so if they don't play ball, he can retaliate against their industries in those countries.

But has anybody here ever seen a Swiss-made car?

Roche: Basel, Switzerland.
Novartis: Basel, Switzerland.
Sanofi: Paris, France.
AstraZeneca: Cambridge, UK.

 

[Ohio Guy]

If drug companies fight Trump's executive order on medicine, he is going to block them from selling cars and alcohol.

Trump's rambling drug company rant makes absolutely 'no sense'

Donald Trump went off on a bizarre rant about drug companies and people are beyond baffled.When asked about his executive order that aims to reduce high prescription drug prices, Trump said: "If they fight, we'll just say, 'That's ok, we're just not gonna let you sell any more cars into the US...

www.indy100.com

That's disappointing. The new model Pfizer roadster looks sharp.

It won't be possible to really know if Trump develops cognitive issues because just about everything he says is non-sequitur. If most of us hold up a picture of Congo and claim it to be South Africa there might be a cause for alarm. For him it is just another press conference.

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/trumps-image-dead-white-farmers-came-reuters-footage-congo-not-south-africa-2025-05-22/

I don't *think* he has problems, but given how bigly inaccurate he is so often, I don't know how we would tell if there is a deeper problem.

What we need is a law going toward that any president has to take a yearly public cognitive exam.

The reason we would never know anything about any legitimate cognitive decline is because his sycophantic cabinet is so far up his ass no one would dare say anything suggesting that he's anything less than king awesome. Similar to Biden, we all see that he's not all there and that he probably shouldn't be president. Too many slips ups, mistakes and what-the-f*&kery to ignore.

I agree with your take that a public, independent cognitive AND physical exam needs to take place for all presidents.

 

[Palmbeachhoosier]

The reason we would never know anything about any legitimate cognitive decline is because his sycophantic cabinet is so far up his ass no one would dare say anything suggesting that he's anything less than king awesome. Similar to Biden, we all see that he's not all there and that he probably shouldn't be president. Too many slips ups, mistakes and what-the-f*&kery to ignore.

I agree with your take that a public, independent cognitive AND physical exam needs to take place for all presidents.

Democrats claimed for 4 years that Biden had no cognitive decline, now claim that Trump has cognitive decline. He will say some dumba$$ comments. That doe s not mean you have cognitive decline. It simply means that you speak before you think. I think we all can admit to being guilty of this.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

Democrats claimed for 4 years that Biden had no cognitive decline, now claim that Trump has cognitive decline. He will say some dumba$$ comments. That doe s not mean you have cognitive decline. It simply means that you speak before you think. I think we all can admit to being guilty of this.

That goes to my question: how could you tell if he has a cognitive decline with his history of speaking in non-sequiturs? What would be an indication he has a problem?

I know you didn't reply to me above, but when you answer, consider that you can search the archives from the last election and my concerns over Biden.

 

[DANC]

You're pathetic.

That's what his ex-wife says, too.

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

Democrats claimed for 4 years that Biden had no cognitive decline, now claim that Trump has cognitive decline. He will say some dumba$$ comments. That doe s not mean you have cognitive decline. It simply means that you speak before you think. I think we all can admit to being guilty of this.

Or, and just hear me out, the dumbass comments he makes are because he is a dumbass.

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

That goes to my question: how could you tell if he has a cognitive decline with his history of speaking in non-sequiturs? What would be an indication he has a problem?

I know you didn't reply to me above, but when you answer, consider that you can search the archives from the last election and my concerns over Biden.

If he starts making sense, chances are he is in cognitive decline.

 

[IUNorth]

We're at a point with Trump, I think, where it literally doesn't matter what he says or does. It wouldn't matter if he devolved like Biden did. It didn't matter to a ton of Democrats with Biden, it wouldn't matter to even more republicans, MAGA or not, if Trump declined like Biden did. So I hope it isn't happening. Someone like Trump, hurtling towards senility, is beyond scary.

I'm no fan of Biden, or much of his leadership circle. I think he's a lifelong panderer, has lied his fair share, and just overall isn't impressive, to me. But there is a touch of honor, right and wrong, compassion, etc... in his compass. Not nearly as much as his ardent supporters like to portray, but it is in there. I very strongly question if there is any of that with Trump. So further removing the checks and balances by stripping away his cognitive abilities...would be a literal nightmare.

I don't think he's slipping, anything like Biden did... I just think he's willfully ignorant on many things, and now that he's not necessarily campaigning for anything any more...that ignorance is becoming more and more willful by the day. Ignorance + Lies + DGAF = Trump on many of the issues he rambles on about.

 

[mcmurtry66]

We're at a point with Trump, I think, where it literally doesn't matter what he says or does. It wouldn't matter if he devolved like Biden did. It didn't matter to a ton of Democrats with Biden, it wouldn't matter to even more republicans, MAGA or not, if Trump declined like Biden did. So I hope it isn't happening. Someone like Trump, hurtling towards senility, is beyond scary.

I'm no fan of Biden, or much of his leadership circle. I think he's a lifelong panderer, has lied his fair share, and just overall isn't impressive, to me. But there is a touch of honor, right and wrong, compassion, etc... in his compass. Not nearly as much as his ardent supporters like to portray, but it is in there. I very strongly question if there is any of that with Trump. So further removing the checks and balances by stripping away his cognitive abilities...would be a literal nightmare.

I don't think he's slipping, anything like Biden did... I just think he's willfully ignorant on many things, and now that he's not necessarily campaigning for anything any more...that ignorance is becoming more and more willful by the day. Ignorance + Lies + DGAF = Trump on many of the issues he rambles on about.

ignorant willfully ignorant no filter stream of consciousness

 

[Palmbeachhoosier]

Or, and just hear me out, the dumbass comments he makes are because he is a dumbass.

Yes at times he speaks without thinking. Pretty sure you probably have done that. Does that make you a dumbass. Yes if you do it all the time.

 

[IUNorth]

Yes at times he speaks without thinking. Pretty sure you probably have done that. Does that make you a dumbass. Yes if you do it all the time.

Hope he doesn’t have people reading this. You just called Trump a dumbass.

 

[UncleMark]

Yes at times he speaks without thinking. Pretty sure you probably have done that. Does that make you a dumbass. Yes if you do it all the time.

So Trump is a dumbass by your definition.

 

[Ohio Guy]

That's what his ex-wife says, too.

I think something was lost here - who are your referencing here?

 

[abraxis]

That goes to my question: how could you tell if he has a cognitive decline with his history of speaking in non-sequiturs? What would be an indication he has a problem?

I know you didn't reply to me above, but when you answer, consider that you can search the archives from the last election and my concerns over Biden.

I think phantom handshakes would qualify for some concerns.

 

[Ohio Guy]

We're at a point with Trump, I think, where it literally doesn't matter what he says or does. It wouldn't matter if he devolved like Biden did. It didn't matter to a ton of Democrats with Biden, it wouldn't matter to even more republicans, MAGA or not, if Trump declined like Biden did. So I hope it isn't happening. Someone like Trump, hurtling towards senility, is beyond scary.

I'm no fan of Biden, or much of his leadership circle. I think he's a lifelong panderer, has lied his fair share, and just overall isn't impressive, to me. But there is a touch of honor, right and wrong, compassion, etc... in his compass. Not nearly as much as his ardent supporters like to portray, but it is in there. I very strongly question if there is any of that with Trump. So further removing the checks and balances by stripping away his cognitive abilities...would be a literal nightmare.

I don't think he's slipping, anything like Biden did... I just think he's willfully ignorant on many things, and now that he's not necessarily campaigning for anything any more...that ignorance is becoming more and more willful by the day. Ignorance + Lies + DGAF = Trump on many of the issues he rambles on about.

I think I'm with you on your assessment of Biden. I was never a huge fan of his, even though I voted for him in 2020.

 

[outside shooter]

how could you tell if he has a cognitive decline with his history of speaking in non-sequiturs? What would be an indication he has a problem?

Trump spoke much more coherently in previous decades than he does now, less rambling, far less repetitive, and was faster thinking on his feet.

changes noted even before 2016:


changes since 2016

 

[BradStevens]

If drug companies fight Trump's executive order on medicine, he is going to block them from selling cars and alcohol.

Trump's rambling drug company rant makes absolutely 'no sense'

Donald Trump went off on a bizarre rant about drug companies and people are beyond baffled.When asked about his executive order that aims to reduce high prescription drug prices, Trump said: "If they fight, we'll just say, 'That's ok, we're just not gonna let you sell any more cars into the US...

www.indy100.com

That's disappointing. The new model Pfizer roadster looks sharp.

It won't be possible to really know if Trump develops cognitive issues because just about everything he says is non-sequitur. If most of us hold up a picture of Congo and claim it to be South Africa there might be a cause for alarm. For him it is just another press conference.

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/trumps-image-dead-white-farmers-came-reuters-footage-congo-not-south-africa-2025-05-22/

I don't *think* he has problems, but given how bigly inaccurate he is so often, I don't know how we would tell if there is a deeper problem.

What we need is a law going toward that any president has to take a yearly public cognitive exam.

He's 78 years old. Of course, he has issues. No one is as sharp at 78 as they were at 60, for example.

We need an amendment to limit the age of our federal officials. No one older than 72 can hold elected office or serve as an Article III judge. Let's vote.

 

[IUINSB]

Democrats claimed for 4 years that Biden had no cognitive decline, now claim that Trump has cognitive decline. He will say some dumba$$ comments. That doe s not mean you have cognitive decline. It simply means that you speak before you think. I think we all can admit to being guilty of this.

If trump waited to think before he spoke, he'd be a mute.

 

[UncleMark]

It won't be possible to really know if Trump develops cognitive issues because just about everything he says is non-sequitur. If most of us hold up a picture of Congo and claim it to be South Africa there might be a cause for alarm. For him it is just another press conference.

This is linked close to the top and in red on Drudge:

Is Trump in mental decline? He sounds far worse than Biden ever did. | Opinion

For those who spent weeks, months and even years howling about then-President Joe Biden's 'mental decline,' what say you about Trump's rambling?

www.usatoday.com

 

[IUINSB]

He's 78 years old. Of course, he has issues. No one is as sharp at 78 as they were at 60, for example.

We need an amendment to limit the age of our federal officials. No one older than 72 can hold elected office or serve as an Article III judge. Let's vote.

Hey, I'm fast approaching 76 and I'm as sharp as when the truth is found to be lies, and all the joy within you a tack.

 

[HurryingHoosiers]

Yes at times he speaks without thinking. Pretty sure you probably have done that. Does that make you a dumbass. Yes if you do it all the time.

Don't recall ever thinking airports existed during the revolutionary war, that sharpies could alter the course of a hurricane or that nuking hurricanes was a viable option

Maybe you surround yourself with less intelligent people

 

[Marvin the Martian]

Hey, I'm fast approaching 76 and I'm as sharp as when the truth is found to be lies, and all the joy within you a tack.

Wow, I must be losing it because it seems to me Grace Slick said pretty much the same thing

 

[Morrison]

He's 78 years old. Of course, he has issues. No one is as sharp at 78 as they were at 60, for example.

We need an amendment to limit the age of our federal officials. No one older than 72 can hold elected office or serve as an Article III judge. Let's vote.

…Or post on message boards.

 

[Noodle]

He's 78 years old. Of course, he has issues. No one is as sharp at 78 as they were at 60, for example.

We need an amendment to limit the age of our federal officials. No one older than 72 can hold elected office or serve as an Article III judge. Let's vote.

I've had cases before some pretty old federal judges, and most have been impressively sharp for their age. Most recently, one in his early 80s awarded us attorneys fees and costs (multiple 6 figures) after dismissing the other side's case. It was a fairly complex case but the judge got it. Other side tried to pull a fast one.

Of course I've also been in court rooms where the judge feel asleep.

Luckily, I don't have to go before state court judges all that often. They tend to be a whole different breed.

 

[BradStevens]

I've had cases before some pretty old federal judges, and most have been impressively sharp for their age. Most recently, one in his early 80s awarded us attorneys fees and costs (multiple 6 figures) after dismissing the other side's case. It was a fairly complex case but the judge got it. Other side tried to pull a fast one.

Of course I've also been in court rooms where the judge feel asleep.

Luckily, I don't have to go before state court judges all that often. They tend to be a whole different breed.

You're lucky. I've been in front of plenty of elderly judges. They're not nearly as sharp as the younger ones, although some are experienced enough to cut through the bullshit quickly. I also find them more narcissistic than their younger counterparts, for some reason. They want to argue just to argue or waste your time with their own pet theory that wasn't briefed.

Congrats on the win. Hope your client was grateful.

 

[mcmurtry66]

I've had cases before some pretty old federal judges, and most have been impressively sharp for their age. Most recently, one in his early 80s awarded us attorneys fees and costs (multiple 6 figures) after dismissing the other side's case. It was a fairly complex case but the judge got it. Other side tried to pull a fast one.

Of course I've also been in court rooms where the judge feel asleep.

Luckily, I don't have to go before state court judges all that often. They tend to be a whole differen

I've had cases before some pretty old federal judges, and most have been impressively sharp for their age. Most recently, one in his early 80s awarded us attorneys fees and costs (multiple 6 figures) after dismissing the other side's case. It was a fairly complex case but the judge got it. Other side tried to pull a fast one.

Of course I've also been in court rooms where the judge feel asleep.

Luckily, I don't have to go before state court judges all that often. They tend to be a whole different breed.

I’d never hire an old lawyer (70 up) for myriad reasons if I had an impt case. No offense coh.

State ct judges are largely bottom feeders. Not very impressive but very likable. Tired of the chase. Need steady income. You aren’t leaving a partnership at Kirkland to sit in county court or making bank on mdls to say eh I’d like to oversee a bulk collection or confined docket. But you might say I can’t do one more shitty divorce case. I’ll throw my hat in

Congrats noodle 💪

 

[Noodle]

You're lucky. I've been in front of plenty of elderly judges. They're not nearly as sharp as the younger ones, although some are experienced enough to cut through the bullshit quickly. I also find them more narcissistic than their younger counterparts, for some reason. They want to argue just to argue or waste your time with their own pet theory that wasn't briefed.

Congrats on the win. Hope your client was grateful.

Thanks, but it was a few years ago.

 

[Noodle]

I’d never hire an old lawyer (70 up) for myriad reasons if I had an impt case. No offense coh.

State ct judges are largely bottom feeders. Not very impressive but very likable. Tired of the chase. Need steady income. You aren’t leaving a partnership at Kirkland to sit in county court or making bank on mdls to say eh I’d like to oversee a bulk collection or confined docket. But you might say I can’t do one more shitty divorce case. I’ll throw my hat in

Congrats noodle 💪

One of the local state court judges used to come to parties I threw when I was single. Nothing fancy, just the typical keg of beer and snacks. Didn't really know him all that well, but he would come with a friend of mine who was an assistant prosecutor. The judge often showed up with the county sheriff's daughter (the sheriff who took on Larry Flynt). It was all a bit weird being rather drunk, pounding beers with a judge who was almost 25 years older than me. He was the judge who issued a TRO against MLB prohibiting them from banning Pete Rose. He was the chief judge at the time and I recall he bypassed the usual process to appoint himself to hear the case - it was local legend, Pete Rose, after all.

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

If drug companies fight Trump's executive order on medicine, he is going to block them from selling cars and alcohol.

Trump's rambling drug company rant makes absolutely 'no sense'

Donald Trump went off on a bizarre rant about drug companies and people are beyond baffled.When asked about his executive order that aims to reduce high prescription drug prices, Trump said: "If they fight, we'll just say, 'That's ok, we're just not gonna let you sell any more cars into the US...

www.indy100.com

That's disappointing. The new model Pfizer roadster looks sharp.

It won't be possible to really know if Trump develops cognitive issues because just about everything he says is non-sequitur. If most of us hold up a picture of Congo and claim it to be South Africa there might be a cause for alarm. For him it is just another press conference.

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/trumps-image-dead-white-farmers-came-reuters-footage-congo-not-south-africa-2025-05-22/

I don't *think* he has problems, but given how bigly inaccurate he is so often, I don't know how we would tell if there is a deeper problem.

What we need is a law going toward that any president has to take a yearly public cognitive exam.

Yeah, start now that cabbage brain is fixin' to meet room temperature..

 

[Marvin the Martian]

Yeah, start now that cabbage brain is fixin' to meet room temperature..

I don't know, I think Trump has several years left in him

 

[rivals01]

I agree with your take that a public, independent cognitive AND physical exam needs to take place for all presidents.

Like boxing, UFC style public weigh ins.
Bye bye elderly candidates.

 

[DANC]

I think something was lost here - who are your referencing here?

I thought you said you are divorced?

If not, then my comment doesn't apply.

 

[DANC]

He's 78 years old. Of course, he has issues. No one is as sharp at 78 as they were at 60, for example.

We need an amendment to limit the age of our federal officials. No one older than 72 can hold elected office or serve as an Article III judge. Let's vote.

Ouch

 

[CO. Hoosier]

I’d never hire an old lawyer (70 up) for myriad reasons if I had an impt case. No offense coh.

State ct judges are largely bottom feeders. Not very impressive but very likable. Tired of the chase. Need steady income. You aren’t leaving a partnership at Kirkland to sit in county court or making bank on mdls to say eh I’d like to oversee a bulk collection or confined docket. But you might say I can’t do one more shitty divorce case. I’ll throw my hat in

Congrats noodle 💪

I tried my last jury case a few months short of my 65th birthday. I kicked butt. The plaintiff’s counsel was I’d say early 40’s from a hot-shot plaintiff firm. He made a couple of huge blunders that I took full advantage of. I told my staff that was my last jury case when it was over. Not because I thought I couldn’t do it, but because I realized how unhealthy the stress, sleeplessness, and poor eating habits were which I always plowed through in my younger days. I could feel my life expectancy shrinking as the trial approached.

 

[CO. Hoosier]

You're lucky. I've been in front of plenty of elderly judges. They're not nearly as sharp as the younger ones, although some are experienced enough to cut through the bullshit quickly. I also find them more narcissistic than their younger counterparts, for some reason. They want to argue just to argue or waste your time with their own pet theory that wasn't briefed.

Congrats on the win. Hope your client was grateful.

Of all the factors that go into the quality of judging, I think age is well below #5. The best thing about being old is how liberating it is. You don’t have to concern yourself with what others think. That could be good or bad depending on the situation.

 

[CO. Hoosier]

I’d never hire an old lawyer (70 up) for myriad reasons if I had an impt case. No offense coh.

State ct judges are largely bottom feeders. Not very impressive but very likable. Tired of the chase. Need steady income. You aren’t leaving a partnership at Kirkland to sit in county court or making bank on mdls to say eh I’d like to oversee a bulk collection or confined docket. But you might say I can’t do one more shitty divorce case. I’ll throw my hat in

Congrats noodle 💪

In my final years of practice as GC for local government, most all the litigation I did involved federal or constitutional questions. I removed every state court case to federal court, not because I thought the state judges were not as smart, but because they didn’t have the legal support federal courts have. State judges, if they even have a clerk, might have to share one with other judges, a federal judge has a couple just for him.

 

[The Original Happy Goat]

He's 78 years old. Of course, he has issues. No one is as sharp at 78 as they were at 60, for example.

We need an amendment to limit the age of our federal officials. No one older than 72 can hold elected office or serve as an Article III judge. Let's vote.

Also, they can't vote anymore.

 

[mcmurtry66]

In my final years of practice as GC for local government, most all the litigation I did involved federal or constitutional questions. I removed every state court case to federal court, not because I thought the state judges were not as smart, but because they didn’t have the legal support federal courts have. State judges, if they even have a clerk, might have to share one with other judges, a federal judge has a couple just for him.

👍. Personal injury opposite. You want to keep it in state court. Easier. Loose. Etc

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

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Of all the factors that go into the quality of judging, I think age is well below #5. The best thing about being old is how liberating it is. You don’t have to concern yourself with what others think. That could be good or bad depending on the situation.

What other people think of me is none of my business...