You don’t think Biden lies?
There may be nothing to any of it but until you look it’s premature to say there’s no evidence
Except unfortunately for you guys, judges actually need to see evidence
I think I've said what I think about "whistleblowers." My experience and knowledge of them tells me that whistleblowers are more often wrong than right. They might be right, but what they said could be easily corroborated by talking to those they named said certain things to them, did certain things they claimed or failed to do things as they claimed. The Trumpster House members on that committee didn't do that so all we have are two whistleblowers who say one thing while some FBI agents, Republican FBI Director Wray and Republican appointed Weiss, now special Prosecutor, dispute everything they say. These whistleblowers are far from proof of anything.
The difference is that they work for the irs not the fbi. The others don’t. My experience with whistleblowers is that it takes a lot of courage to come forward and rarely are they making shit up. Not a great look for future employment
Of course, he lies. He's a politician. No one has lied more than Trump has lied in our entire Presidential history.You don’t think Biden lies?
Fact check: Biden makes false claims about the debt and deficit in jobs speech | CNN Politics
During a Friday speech about the September jobs report, President Joe Biden delivered a rapid-fire series of three false or misleading claims – falsely saying that he has cut the debt, falsely crediting a tax policy that didn’t take effect until 2023 for improving the budget situation in 2021...amp.cnn.com
About what that has impacted the daily living of Americans? Biden’s’ lies pertain to the state of the country etc.
I don’t want Trump either. Acting like Biden is the high ground or a better choice is hardly clear. I’ll vote for trump unless Biden is switched out with Shapiro or someone like that
No, government whistleblowers are most often disgruntled employees or employees that are already in trouble themselves. It's usually an effort for revenge or to get themselves out of trouble. There are some actual whistleblowers that are doing it for the right reason, but it's not the majority of them. I sat through a couple briefs on this during my career. Congress loves them, but don't bother telling us when what they've been told proves to be false.
You can certainly vote for who you want to vote for. It's your choice. My determination, which has not changed, is that Trump is entirely unfit for the office. I cannot possibly vote for him. I couldn't live with myself it I did. He is in fact that bad as far as I'm concerned.
Let’s find out. They may be disgruntled. Happens all the time in employment law. But until they are heard and their claims explored we don’t know.
And I feel the same way about this batch of Dems. They are insidious and unfit
Haven't the two whistleblowers already testified before a favorable Republican committee already?
That their leads were blocked. I want to know if they were pursued thereafter. If not why not. From the irs. Not fbi
Show me evidence that they were disgruntled. Link the findings. Has an adverse action been taken against them?
By Congress. I don't know why they haven't called others to testify to corroborate what they said. Maybe they did and they didn't corroborate what they said. The Trumpsters wouldn't want us to know that. I'd guess they've been thoroughly vetted by the Special Counsel. They don't give us running commentary on what they're doing.
I have no idea if they were or not. I'm saying that is often a motivator for whistleblowers. Action against whistleblowers is never quick because they have protection against adverse actions until they're proven wrong and to have had motivation other than "doing good."
Once that happens, they can be fired, reprimanded, etc. Sometimes it's as simple as their perception of events is wrong.
I don't know why they would. If I was involved, I'd be pulling every single string to see if the whistleblowers were right or wrong.
I know how whistleblowers work.I have no idea if they were or not. I'm saying that is often a motivator for whistleblowers. Action against whistleblowers is never quick because they have protection against adverse actions until they're proven wrong and to have had motivation other than "doing good."
Government whistleblowers may be a little different. I've not yet experienced any in my civilian life and haven't bothered to learn what happens if we have to deal with one.
Gov whistle blower retaliation claims. False claims act claims. If a decent sized firm does employment law they’ll have someone conversant in it. And obviously private.
This all might be trumped up. The whistleblowers. All of it. But until hunter has been deposed and everything vetted it’s premature. The lllcs. Bank records. What was claimed on taxes on and on. What the irs agents say was blocked. Why they were willing to testify. Their employment history. On and on and on. What msnbc says matters little. And sadly I don’t think it’s a stretch to wonder if Doj has been politicized. Doj’s deal with hunter evidences same. So get all of it on the record
You have a son who has tax evasion issues getting preferential treatment from Doj with two irs agents testifying that they were blocked from pursuing leads potentially implicating joe. With the amount the gov has gone after trump there’s a bit of hypocrisy to look the other way with Joe and the Doj
That he got preferential treatment isn’t a fact either. It’s an opinion. I’ve listened to plenty of conservative prosecutors who claim he wouldn’t have been treated as harshly as he has if he wasn’t Joe Biden’s son. I don’t care about him though. I’ll care if anything implicates our President.
really? the judge wouldn't do the deal. couple million bucks dropped to misds and a felony gun charge. it appears today the preferential treatment he received from doj was rectified with felony tax charges. and the irs agents testified behind closed doors this week too. the committee is also saying they have emails now between joe biden and hunter's business partner that apparently joe said he'd never communicated with.
Maybe your boy will get out of testifying before the House if he's in court on one of the 9 charges filed against him today.
No. No. No. I’m absolutely not going out in a limb to defend Biden. I don’t care if Biden is torched. All I’m saying is the facts just don’t support a case against Joe Biden currently. They might eventually, but it looks very doubtful there will be one. If that changes, let’s get him.
I know what we all know. We know what’s publicly reported. It’s not a strong case. If the Trumpster House members knew more, we’d know it too.
again hunter just got indicted today. he hasn't even been deposed yet. the irs agents testified just this week. you have no idea if it is or isn't a strong case. the media are worthless.
I’m not talking about Hunter. I don’t care even a little bit about Hunter - unless there is some sort of connection to our President. If there is we can work on torching the President. Just seems extremely unlikely at this point.
Supervisory IRS Special Agent Gary Shapley and IRS Criminal Investigator Joseph Ziegler testified under oath that Hunter got preferential treatment. They werent offering an opinion.
I’m not talking about hunter either. That’s how you find the connection. Like a building a puzzle. And if the pieces aren’t there they aren’t but you don’t know until you do the depos etc
That is an opinion given under oath. The counter opinion given under oath was from Wray (Republican) and others. Agreed?
Biden lied about Hunter and foreign money in every possible way. The money trail, the many single-transaction bank accounts, Joe’s alias email accounts showing up in messages to Hunters’s associates, the many LLC’s with no business purpose, and the “loan repayments” directly to Joe, are overwhelming evidence of Joe‘s corruption.
