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The question doesn't match the graphs, and the graphs are mutually inconsistent.Should the UK remain in the EU, leave under May Deal or leave with No Deal? Let the people decide:
Well, sorry about the wording but the poll results illustrate a Condorcet Paradox: Remain beats May Deal; No Deal beats Remain; and May Deal beats No Deal. This makes a point that it is impossible to say what the people want in this case.The question doesn't match the graphs, and the graphs are mutually inconsistent.
Should the UK remain in the EU, leave under May Deal or leave with No Deal? Let the people decide:
Ahh...I see the whole thing is a bollux.The question doesn't match the graphs, and the graphs are mutually inconsistent.
Really hard to tell. I was listening to a BBC report the other day where they were interviewing old people. The olds just said that Britain was not Europe so they thought they shouldn't be part of the European Union.Brexit is the very definition of buyer’s remorse.
There’s some movement in GB to call for another referendum- on the theory that the voters were misled, and based their vote on lies. Essentially, the first referendum is null and void, because the pretenses under which voters voted was fraudulent.
It’ll be interesting to see where it goes from here. If I had to bet, the Brits will eventually find some way to reverse the decision. Reality has smacked them in their faces, and they really don’t like it.
Well, sorry about the wording but the poll results illustrate a Condorcet Paradox: Remain beats May Deal; No Deal beats Remain; and May Deal beats No Deal. This makes a point that it is impossible to say what the people want in this case.
Should the UK remain in the EU, leave under May Deal or leave with No Deal? Let the people decide:
What is May Deal for $200
Inspite of her horrendous election call, May is a tremendous wizard at holding on by a thread. I wouldn't bet against her until she actually loses.
There’s some movement in GB to call for another referendum- on the theory that the voters were misled, and based their vote on lies. Essentially, the first referendum is null and void, because the pretenses under which voters voted was fraudulent.
The No Deal folks are still selling their jingoistic nonsense. Emotional BS sells just like in the States.
The Remainers is a logical choice. The May Deal may not even pass her own party in Parliment so lets wait and see. Both economic projections of the impact May's Plan and No Deal has been rejected by the Brexiters -- they expect an economic shrinkage of the GDP by about 5%.
The reasoning is that it doesn't take into account the abilities of the British's people's spirit to 'make deals' outside the EU so its hogwash. Stupid economists!
When a country is down to patriotic emotions, you know they are using the trump card, albeit their last resort.
The truth about a no-deal Brexit
https://www.economist.com/leaders/2018/11/24/the-truth-about-a-no-deal-brexit
They need another referendum or at least the people's vote on what maybe passed in Parliment. Unlike the Orange Buffoon, Brexit is permanent and cannot be allowed to go through based on some emotional whimsy of a bunch of old white or working class folks..
Corbyn deserves the most blame. If he did not strongly support Brexit, it doesn't pass.
I think it's basically the same urban/rural and educational divide we are witnessing globally, with a few regional caveats.
Frankly, the UK maybe better off with a Norway style arrangement. I don't think any of us have the expertise to say precisely one way or another. Already, they didn't use the euro and were not party to Schengen. They were not fully committed to the EU project imo.
Should the UK remain in the EU, leave under May Deal or leave with No Deal? Let the people decide:
The No Deal folks are still selling their jingoistic nonsense. Emotional BS sells just like in the States.
The Remainers is a logical choice. The May Deal may not even pass her own party in Parliment so lets wait and see. Both economic projections of the impact May's Plan and No Deal has been rejected by the Brexiters -- they expect an economic shrinkage of the GDP by about 5%.
The reasoning is that it doesn't take into account the abilities of the British's people's spirit to 'make deals' outside the EU so its hogwash. Stupid economists!
When a country is down to patriotic emotions, you know they are using the trump card, albeit their last resort.
The truth about a no-deal Brexit
https://www.economist.com/leaders/2018/11/24/the-truth-about-a-no-deal-brexit
They need another referendum or at least the people's vote on what maybe passed in Parliment. Unlike the Orange Buffoon, Brexit is permanent and cannot be allowed to go through based on some emotional whimsy of a bunch of old white or working class folks..
lolThe European Union will be part of an epic collapse at some point. The Brits have no desire to be part of it.
Exactly. JDB keeps pushing this idea.
Maybe he knows something we don't - European Rapture.
It's not some novel concept. A group of non-unified economies with steep differences and a single monetary policy? There is no practical way it is going to work long term. Greeks are striking again because of austerity, EU policies have driven Italians to Nationalism again, etc. while Germany continues to control every decision with its economic weight.
the graphs are mutually inconsistent.
Technically, you are correct. Which is the best kind of correct. Kudos.not sure i agree.
those who wish to remain were not given a "remain" option in the "May Deal vs No Deal" question.
looks like those who originally voted to "remain", regardless of which deal was the other option, prefer no deal to May deal when "remain" is no longer an option.
they are not necessarily mutually exclusive or a paradox as i see it, but i'm sleep deprived.
since i'm not up on this, what are the Cliff Notes versions of each deal?
or at least the basic differences between the May deal and no deal?
Technically, you are correct. Which is the best kind of correct. Kudos.
A majority of Scots believe Scottish independence would be better for the country than staying in the UK after Brexit, a new poll reveals.
The Panelbase survey of 1,028 voters for The Sunday Times Scotland and LBC, before a crucial Commons vote on Theresa May’s withdrawal deal, found that more believe leaving the EU will be bad for Scotland than not.
Scottish independence would be better than a no-deal Brexit, say 59%, with 41% disagreeing. While 53% say independence would benefit the country more than staying in the UK but outside the EU under a negotiated Brexit deal, 47% take the opposite view.
This is turning into the huge mess we all knew it would be.
https://www.vox.com/2018/12/10/18134242/theresa-may-brexit-deal-postpone-vote
I'm not sure she'd lose a no-confidence vote. I don't know there are enough conservatives/DUPs willing to risk the suddenly very real possibility of Corbyn presiding over Brexit.Yeap. She would lose by maybe a 100 votes and possibly force a 'no-confidence' vote and a GE. And more mayhem.
I'm not sure she'd lose a no-confidence vote. I don't know there are enough conservatives/DUPs willing to risk the suddenly very real possibility of Corbyn presiding over Brexit.
Theresa May’s embattled leadership is under fresh pressure after Tory rebels claimed enough letters calling for her resignation have been collected to trigger a no-confidence vote.
The attempt to force Ms May from power has flared up again as anger grows over her refusal to allow parliament a vote on her Brexit plans, amid fears it would result in a humiliating defeat.
But while unnamed rebels indicated they believed sufficient letters had been submitted to force a no-confidence vote in the Conservative leader, The Independent understands official confirmation was unlikely to come on Tuesday evening.
You did the commentator's curse:I'm not sure she'd lose a no-confidence vote. I don't know there are enough conservatives/DUPs willing to risk the suddenly very real possibility of Corbyn presiding over Brexit.
UK Prime Minister Theresa May will face a vote of no confidence in her leadership later on Wednesday.
Conservative MPs will vote between 18:00 GMT and 20:00 GMT.
The challenge to Mrs May's position comes after the required 48 letters calling for a contest were delivered.
Mrs May, who has been prime minister since shortly after the UK voted to leave the European Union in 2016, has faced criticism in her party for the Brexit plan she has negotiated.
May is done, it's just a matter of time until she is out. Brexit is the disaster everybody knew it was going to be. Even if they reverse it, they will still feel the damage of all the lost businesses that have moved to Europe.
At some point the UK is going to have to realize that carry nearly as much weight as they think they do. This whole Brexit fiasco has weakened their standing even more.
At this point I don't see hope they avoid another referendum which will be voted down easily.
The Leavers are still spouting the pre-referendum crap. So don't be too confident that the Brits will go the right thing.
At some point politicians need to be held accountable to the lies they spout or most democracies will die a slow death. And the alternative isn't pretty, having lived or worked in them.
You did the commentator's curse:
Theresa May to face leadership challenge
May survives. Tories back her continued leadership 200-117.
Theresa May's bid to make her Brexit deal more acceptable to MPs has suffered a blow after EU leaders said it was "not open for renegotiation".
She wanted legal assurances on the Irish backstop and had warned the deal itself was "at risk" over the issue.
But European Commission president Jean-Claude Juncker said there could be clarifications but no renegotiation.