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Rosenstein Resigning

Because it’s only Monday and we already have enough news for a week. This is the new normal in Trump World.
 
We'll see, seems like pretty conflicting reporting right now.
 
Republicans are urging Trump to hold off on firing Rosenstein so of course Trump will fire him now. :rolleyes: Trump sees an opening now. He knows how big the Kava news cycle is going to be and firing Rosenstein will get drowned in that rapidly. Let Kava go down while Trump slinks around in the background and gets rid of Mueller.
 
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Because it’s only Monday and we already have enough news for a week. This is the new normal in Trump World.

My main concern is he starts a war somewhere and tries to take complete power. Where is the resistance? It's a paper pillow. There are no red lines.
 
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Wapo is reporting that Rosenstein has offered to resign, which to me is a move in the chess match he has with Trump. Instead of running scared waiting for Trump to fire him, it seems to me that Rosenstein might be daring Trump to take him up on the offer, what with the damage that the acceptance might do for the mid-term elections. In one sense, it might be Rosenstein's way of declaring no confidence in the President, and then if the President refuses to accept the resignation then Rosenstein has Trump's criticism off his back, likely at least long enough to get through Mueller issuing his report.

A gamble, but not a bad play either.
 
Wapo is reporting that Rosenstein has offered to resign, which to me is a move in the chess match he has with Trump. Instead of running scared waiting for Trump to fire him, it seems to me that Rosenstein might be daring Trump to take him up on the offer, what with the damage that the acceptance might do for the mid-term elections. In one sense, it might be Rosenstein's way of declaring no confidence in the President, and then if the President refuses to accept the resignation then Rosenstein has Trump's criticism off his back, likely at least long enough to get through Mueller issuing his report.

A gamble, but not a bad play either.

Trump could fire Rosenstein and it won't impact the midterms imo. I doubt your average American even knows who Kavanaugh or Rosenstein are. The average person is oblivious. There are very few undecided voters. This election boils down to one thing and one thing only imo.. whoever turns out their voters will win. Democrats have more voters, but will they show up to the polls?
 


If Francisco recuses himself, Terwilliger (Rosenstein's former #2) would be over the Russia investigation
 
Regardless, Trump is a coward. Rosenstein will be fired while Trump is in NYC. Trump doesn't have to balls to do it face to face. Never has.
 
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Bloomberg is saying Rosenstein is out but it is not clear if resigned or was fired. I think the Trump administration wants him to say he resigned. The match that seems to have caused Rosenstein's demise is Manafort's cooperation with Mueller...I imagine Manafort holds the smoking gun.
 


Apparently Rosenstein hasn't resigned yet and the meeting today is one already scheduled.
 
But was it scheduled before or after the Friday NYT story?

It's obvious that the leaks on Friday and today are being orchestrated by right wing cons. My guess is miller has a major role in this. Perhaps Nunes as well. They are despicable.
 
Wapo is reporting that Rosenstein has offered to resign, which to me is a move in the chess match he has with Trump. Instead of running scared waiting for Trump to fire him, it seems to me that Rosenstein might be daring Trump to take him up on the offer, what with the damage that the acceptance might do for the mid-term elections. In one sense, it might be Rosenstein's way of declaring no confidence in the President, and then if the President refuses to accept the resignation then Rosenstein has Trump's criticism off his back, likely at least long enough to get through Mueller issuing his report.

A gamble, but not a bad play either.
Rosenstein finished 2nd at his class at Wharton and first at his class at Harvard Law.

If I'm wagering who has better skills at playing such games, I know which horse I'm taking.
 
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Rosenstein finished 2nd at his class at Wharton and first at his class at Harvard Law.

If I'm wagering who has better skills at playing such games, I know which horse I'm taking.

I think Rosenstein was blindsided by Friday's news. I wouldn't be on Rosenstein over someone like Stephen Miller in the casino because Rosenstein is a straight shooter, while Miller is a professional schemer. Rosenstein focuses on his job, Miller focuses on ambush.
 
Bloomberg is saying Rosenstein is out but it is not clear if resigned or was fired. I think the Trump administration wants him to say he resigned. The match that seems to have caused Rosenstein's demise is Manafort's cooperation with Mueller...I imagine Manafort holds the smoking gun.
Rueters saying that quitting would make it easier for Trump to appoint a successor, while firing would make it harder. No doubt related to the official successor laws requiring Senate confirmation in some circumstances and not others.

Make the bastard fire you Rod!

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...d-conflicting-reports-on-future-idUSKCN1M41RY
 
This is exactly the type of sh!tshow described over and over in Woodward’s book. How the hell did we get to this? We have a POTUS who couldn’t run a small business screwing up the entire administration. The man spends most of his time watching tv and his staff is happy that he’s preoccupied with that so he doesn’t get us into WW3.
 
LOL. Trump never liked him to begin with:

As Kavanaugh’s poll numbers plummet, Trump is telling people in private that he was never a fan of Kavanaugh’s selection, sources said. According to two people who’ve spoken with Trump recently, Trump complained that establishment Republicans foisted Kavanaugh on him, because they reasoned Kavanaugh would unite the party in November. According to one former West Wing official, Trump’s first choice was Judge Thomas Hardiman, who served on the federal bench alongside Trump’s sister Maryanne Trump Barry.
 
LOL. Trump never liked him to begin with:

As Kavanaugh’s poll numbers plummet, Trump is telling people in private that he was never a fan of Kavanaugh’s selection, sources said. According to two people who’ve spoken with Trump recently, Trump complained that establishment Republicans foisted Kavanaugh on him, because they reasoned Kavanaugh would unite the party in November. According to one former West Wing official, Trump’s first choice was Judge Thomas Hardiman, who served on the federal bench alongside Trump’s sister Maryanne Trump Barry.


Yeah, that's been out for the last week or so....and actually believe that too. Kavanaugh was always a GOP establishment guy. Which is kind of what surprised me that Trump went with him. Should have gone w/Hardiman from the get-go.
 
Yeah, that's been out for the last week or so....and actually believe that too. Kavanaugh was always a GOP establishment guy. Which is kind of what surprised me that Trump went with him. Should have gone w/Hardiman from the get-go.
At the risk of repeating myself, Kavanaugh's views on the unitary executive and the presidential prerogative were what Trump was looking for. He wants his ass covered when the Mueller probe ends up in front of the Court.
 
This was a previously schedule meeting between Rosenstein and staffers at the White House. Of course, the media made up a completely false story and ran it. You folks should settle down. There is nothing to this today. Why do you rely on news organizations that make up stories out of thin air?
The White House, leaking through Axios, did a good job of knocking the Kavanaugh accusations off the top of the page. But it's only temporary.

Interesting timing for the Trump-Rosenstein meeting -- Thursday, the same day that Ford and Kavanaugh with be having their hearing.
 
One set or another of reporters is purely making this up since no firing nor resignation happened. Or maybe they are both making it up. Notice none of these articles/reports names a source.

Can we agree that stories with unnamed people as sources are not even worthy of mentioning?
 
1.. Do they make up stories out of thin air at Marketwatch?
LOL, no. Perhaps you should learn to read.

2. Do you rely on that site?
Yes, since it's part of DJ and sister co. of the WSJ.

3. If so, why?
Because I'm not an idiot and read financial news regularly.

See answers above
 
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At the risk of repeating myself, Kavanaugh's views on the unitary executive and the presidential prerogative were what Trump was looking for. He wants his ass covered when the Mueller probe ends up in front of the Court.


Meh....I suppose possible...but I don't think Trump has a clue about what he would or wouldn't want in a justice. Can't imagine he had a lot of in-depth legal convos with any of these people.

And I don't think there is any reason to think that Mueller investigation is necessarily going to be headed toward the SC, regardless.
 
One set or another of reporters is purely making this up since no firing nor resignation happened. Or maybe they are both making it up. Notice none of these articles/reports names a source.

Can we agree that stories with unnamed people as sources are not even worthy of mentioning?
So it's obvious to you that multiple major news outlets all decided to concoct slightly different versions of the same made up story, each based on its own made up reporting -- because why not? In reality, however, there was a "frenzy of leaks", probably from within the chaotic Trump administration:

Then, on Monday morning, Axios’s Jonathan Swan dropped a bomb, publishing a short post claiming that Rosenstein had “verbally resigned” to White House chief of staff John Kelly, in anticipation of being fired by President Trump.

In the next few hours, there was a frenzy of leaks claiming several different things. Some claimed Rosenstein was not going to resign and was instead going to make Trump fire him. Others claimed he was merely “expecting to be fired.” Others said he had offered his resignation but stressed that it had not been accepted. (Vanity Fair’s Gabe Sherman even suggested the spectacle may have been entirely intended to distract from sexual assault accusations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.) But no one really seemed to know what was happening as Rosenstein headed over to the White House.

There, Rosenstein met Kelly, and spoke with Trump (who is in New York) over the phone “to discuss the recent news stories,” according to a statement by White House press secretary Sarah Sanders. “They will meet on Thursday when the President returns to Washington,” Sanders continued.
This, by the way, is the sort of thing non-crazy people would have expected the truth to be.

 
Meh....I suppose possible...but I don't think Trump has a clue about what he would or wouldn't want in a justice. Can't imagine he had a lot of in-depth legal convos with any of these people.
I doubt the he, personally, understands (or cares) enough to make a pick on judicial philosophy, but I'd be surprised if he wasn't told that Kavanaugh would be most likely to have his back.
And I don't think there is any reason to think that Mueller investigation is necessarily going to be headed toward the SC, regardless.
Then we differ on that. I think it's inevitable that the Court will be involved at some point. Exactly what that involvement might be I can't say, but there are multiple scenarios I can imagine.
 
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