Is there any doubt he reeks of cabbage, self loathing and failure?
Purdue get Proctor, Archie gets ?
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Those are interesting excuses, but they are still excuses. Why do you have excuses after 15 years?
And I think you should elevate your standards and do some research on what IU was like before you were born.
Here we go. Blame our lack of success on some make believe moral high horse. That’s complete BS. We’re no better ethically, we’re just worse on the court.
And yes, I want to have the success UNC and UK have.
What excuse? Thought those were just the facts. If you think he's had more talented teams then cool. Good to know that's all you could respond with too
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Maybe to you they are facts. To everybody else, they are excuses. The first step in addressing a problem is admitting you have one.
Don't really care how you spin what I said. The fact that you're only response is to pick out one sentence out of my whole post is telling. It also doesn't change all the facts I listed. We both know that even though your response will try to say otherwise.
Your response was just one big excuse for shortcomings. Why are you making excuses after 15 years?
Well that was predictable. I guess this is going nowhere since you have nothing else to add. If we are going to call these excuses then I guess id rather have to give excuses in the sweet sixteen than excuses as to why my team is sitting home in March for the better half of a decade plus
IU fired the crappy coach that went to Sweet 16's and couldn't make it back to the FF and brought somebody else onto the mound (note: Crean actually has been to a FF). I'd ask you what your excuses are, but you already told them. Time to go work on your Matt Painter statue for the Mackey gates. The 40 year FF drought continues!
But Crean made it to a final four before IU. Saying you couldn't get there with him is an excuse! Why are you giving excuses as to why you couldn't get there with him? Archie got to an elite 8 at Dayton. What's the deal with him at IU in your opinion? Just going by your logic here
IU fired Crean. There aren't any excuses being made. Crean couldn't get it done and was given more than enough time. IU isn't going to wait around for 25 years like you guys and make excuses.
Archie is going into year 3: his story hasn't been written yet.
Excuses! You had a lottery pick and returning 1st team all conference player to lead a team with a handful of other 4 star players and ended your season with a double digit tier 3 loss at home to Wichita st in the NIT. Make sure you don't list injuries as to why that happened because you've already listed those as excuses.
It's a shame your hatred for your rival gets you to the point that you can't think clearly.
What do you mean excuses? I think you would be hard pressed to find an IU fan that is happy with the results this season. I am not advocating firing a coach after 2 years: I don't think that is giving a coach a fair shot. Look around, though, and you will find some posters on here who are. At this point, Archie Miller is not in the same boat as Crean (9 years) or Painter (15 years).
If Archie can't put forth a consistent winner that meets IU standards, he won't make it, either.
Yea It's frustrating when someone keeps saying you're making excuses when you clearly aren't. I know the feeling
Apples and oranges. Cute, though.Yea It's frustrating when someone keeps saying you're making excuses when you clearly aren't. I know the feeling
I am curious as to what IU's or in this case your standard is that he needs to meet. I understand that Crean missing the tournament more than he made it wasn't meeting anyone's standard but what is that standard exactly? I agree you give Archie more time but he's already 1 season away from tying the amount of times painter has missed the tournament in 15 years and has a lot of questions with his roster next season IMO.
Nah not really. I said painters best teams had injuries which they did. I didn't say anything about that being the reason they didn't go further. I said you need luck in the tournament and pointed those situations out as not being lucky. Your first reply took it there. Again, your hatred of Purdue has got the better of you.
Being a consistent winner, going to Final Fours, NCAA titles, winning Big 10 titles, recruiting well (good mix of 4 year players and high ranked kids), winning the right way. Matt Painter IS NOT IU's standard: he would have been let go a long time ago.
Crean was not a consistent winner. No FF's, more down years than good years, he had good years instead of great years.
Lol. Keep telling yourself that and sell it on GBI where you guys buy it.
Archie has been at IU for 2 years, Painter has been at PU for 15: surely, you can count to 15 and know the difference between 2 and 15. IU fans are not satisfied with this season's performance, while PU fans are, obviously, just fine with Painter.
IU has generally not chosen coaches wisely since Bob Knight. Bob Knight is on the Mt. Rushmore of college basketball coaches: hard not to miss the good years. You wouldn't understand. We'll see what Archie can do. We know what Matt Painter is: some of us are ok with that and building statues of him, others are not.
The funny thing is, Mike Davis went to a FF since Bobby and neither Gene or Matt ever have: WTF.
Yea I'm happy with 3 consecutive sweet 16s including an elite 8 when IU fans have told me in those 3 years that Purdue wouldn't win without Hammons, wouldn't win without Biggie, and wouldn't win after the senior class from two years ago left. Already hearing it about how Purdue won't win without Carsen now too so maybe IU's fanbase is Purdues good luck
That was actually a fun IU team to watch in the tournament and it was one of the first tournaments I can remember from my childhood.
Goes back to my comment that you need things to break your way in the tournament though
You fool no one, either, Love4beer. Everyone knows you post under that name at GBI, even though you’ve repeatedly lied and said you don’t come over there. Our mods busted you for that, among other things.
Love4beer Sucks!
I honestly have no idea what GBI is. I’m sure it’s a Purdue fan site but have never been there and don’t even know how to find it.
We did? Who was our returning 1st team all conference player?
I would just like you to make a logically consistent argument. If he has recruited "well enough" by the standards of the peer group that you cited then he obviously "does not suck" at recruiting according to your own words.
Please be aware of the Aristotelian Law of the Excluded Middle: something cannot be itself and its opposite simultaneously. If Painter sucks at recruiting, he cannot have done so well enough; if he has done well enough, then he cannot suck at the same task.
Those are your words found in your posts. It is a series of contradictions of your own making.
You're right. Morgan was 2nd team to end the 2017-18 season and along with Romeo made the preseason team last year. Still one of two teams to have 2 of the top 10 players preseason.
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