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Purdue get Proctor, Archie gets ?

3 years of no NCAA and you think he gets year 4? I really don't understand this thought .

No way IU admits it screwed up and fires Archie after just three seasons. The people at the top have huge egos.
 
Archie is the person who scouted, offered, and coached Fitz. If he isn't responsible for it, who is?

To be clear, I don't give a sh#t about Proctor, Pork Chop, or Purdue.

Yup! One time is bad luck. A few times and you may be on to something. That’s how this works.

That’s why you 10 idiots are being called idiots after losing your shit 2 seasons into his career. Not...enough...data.

To say otherwise really more about you insecurities than the state of IU basketball. Lolol
 
If painter had all the talent we’ve had the last 15 years he’d have 3-4 final fours by now Jimbo.
What do you call Shaka Smart, Gregg Marshall, Loyola Chicago, and Auburn, TT, and Virginia this year? Painter has had enough talent, he just can't reach the FF. Not my fault he sucks at recruiting.
 
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Yup! One time is bad luck. A few times and you may be on to something. That’s how this works.

That’s why you 10 idiots are being called idiots after losing your shit 2 seasons into his career. Not...enough...data.

To say otherwise really more about you insecurities than the state of IU basketball. Lolol

It’s technically twice. Also, we have blown a#% for 20 years. I moved past losing my sh#t years ago when it comes to IU basketball.
 
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We need a grad transfer who can shoot. Guess Archie isn't aware of this. He blamed the season on a lack of 3 point shooting but he is focused on freshmen. I don't get it.
No you don't get it. Archie knows more about recruiting and building a roster. If I had to guess, I would say he is going to see if the last of his recruiting targets will sign before he uses a scholarship on a grad transfer.

The worst thing to do in recruiting is to panic and sign players that won't help at the expense of waiting on those that could have helped more than one year.
 
Archie is 1-2 years away from being John Groce 2.0 as an assistant somewhere. He’s not going to bank scholarships.
 
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Pu is the better team currently (or was). The pu "program" is not even in the same category as IU and never will be. Use the proper terms.
Get real. PU passed us years ago. They’re clicking on all cylinders right now with excellent, world class leadership. We’re not even on the train anymore...we’re being towed behind it along with the likes of Rutgers, Wake Forest, and maybe a couple more.
 
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What do you call Shaka Smart, Gregg Marshall, Loyola Chicago, and Auburn, TT, and Virginia this year? Painter has had enough talent, he just can't reach the FF. Not my fault he sucks at recruiting.
Painter is very average but he’s better than any coach we’ve had this century. Wake up.
 
Painter is very average but he’s better than any coach we’ve had this century. Wake up.

how could anyone, much less dumb shit douche like you, tell after two years?

why don't any other schools fire guys after two years? what do all these ADs know that you don't?

but sure -- point out Billy Clyde and a list of 5 other names...

douche douche douche lol
 
how could anyone, much less dumb shit douche like you, tell after two years?

why don't any other schools fire guys after two years? what do all these ADs know that you don't?

but sure -- point out Billy Clyde and a list of 5 other names...

douche douche douche lol
UK - Gillispie
UNC - Doherty

Archie is Obviously worse than both.

I prefer we act more like UK/UNC than we do like Iowa/Northwestern. But I guess that’s just me.
 
UK - Gillispie
UNC - Doherty

Archie is Obviously worse than both.

I prefer we act more like UK/UNC than we do like Iowa/Northwestern. But I guess that’s just me.
UK - Billy Clyde had never signed a contract.

UNC - Doherty was out after THREE years. Not two. And he resigned; he was not fired.

You prove - time and time again - that you struggle with facts. But it's easier to make ignorant statements, right?

As far as who'd you want to act like? Yeah, a school that runs fake classes for nearly 20 years - that's what we want to be? UK? Are you serious?

You want to be more like them - why are you here? Why not root for schools who share your ethics and viewpoints?
 
What do you call Shaka Smart, Gregg Marshall, Loyola Chicago, and Auburn, TT, and Virginia this year? Painter has had enough talent, he just can't reach the FF. Not my fault he sucks at recruiting.

I believe that there is a logical contradiction here. According to the post, Painter has gotten the talent to get to a FF, but has not gotten to it. Yet despite getting the necessary talent, "...he sucks at recruiting." I always thought lawyers were supposed to make logical arguments but I guess Jimbo proves that is a false assumption.
 
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I believe that there is a logical contradiction here. According to the post, Painter has gotten the talent to get to a FF, but has not gotten to it. Yet despite getting the necessary talent, "...he sucks at recruiting." I always thought lawyers were supposed to make logical arguments but I guess Jimbo proves that is a false assumption.
Painter is a good recruiter, getting the hard nosed, tenacious players that fit into Mean Gene’s “family” concept he always promoted. Painter’s brother is an attorney so I imagine Matt’s immediate gene pool has some smart in it and is at least a decent sideline coach. His problem with not getting more elite players to (as yet) break through to banner raising proportions probably stems from the fact, “It’s Purdue!”. There are reasons it’s never been said that I need not get into because IU fans already know.
 
Painter is a good recruiter, getting the hard nosed, tenacious players that fit into Mean Gene’s “family” concept he always promoted. Painter’s brother is an attorney so I imagine Matt’s immediate gene pool has some smart in it and is at least a decent sideline coach. His problem with not getting more elite players to (as yet) break through to banner raising proportions probably stems from the fact, “It’s Purdue!”. There are reasons it’s never been said that I need not get into because IU fans already know.

You may/may not be correct in your post. However, that has nothing to do with the logical contradiction found in the referenced post.
 
Get real. PU passed us years ago. They’re clicking on all cylinders right now with excellent, world class leadership. We’re not even on the train anymore...we’re being towed behind it along with the likes of Rutgers, Wake Forest, and maybe a couple more.
I think you should follow Purdue. You will be happier, and so will the rest of us.
 
UK - Gillispie
UNC - Doherty

Archie is Obviously worse than both.

I prefer we act more like UK/UNC than we do like Iowa/Northwestern. But I guess that’s just me.

Dougherty got 3 years and went 8-20 his second...so you continue to be a colossal dumb shit.

and how could you "obviously" know when we've determined time and time again you don't understand basketball...or stats...or even what most words mean. again, you are just a dumb shit

with fans like this, who needs opposing fans. sheeeeesh (you dumb shit...lol)
 
I believe that there is a logical contradiction here. According to the post, Painter has gotten the talent to get to a FF, but has not gotten to it. Yet despite getting the necessary talent, "...he sucks at recruiting." I always thought lawyers were supposed to make logical arguments but I guess Jimbo proves that is a false assumption.
How many 5*, elite prospects has Painter landed? One, who was a legacy? Painter has recruited "well enough" by the standards of Wichita State, VCU, Loyola Chicago, Texas Tech, etc.: those guys didn't bring in 5*, elite prospects, yet made it to FF's. If VCU can reach a FF, then why in the hell can't Painter?

Please, give me more advice about being an attorney and logic, lol. I don't know how I made it this far without your wisdom.
 
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I will accept your apology as offered but your post was not offensive in the least. While we may not agree on the points, there was nothing offensive in it.
Thank you. I was apologizing for not remaining focused on your point. To be honest, you got me head scratching at “logical contradiction”, a term I haven’t come across hereto very often so I just started spewing whatever I thought was halfway related to Painter and his recruiting ability or lack thereof. Understand, I got my degree in higher learned behavior from a well known party school.
 
How many 5*, elite prospects has Painter landed? One, who was a legacy? Painter has recruited "well enough" by the standards of Wichita State, VCU, Loyola Chicago, Texas Tech, etc.: those guys didn't bring in 5*, elite prospects, yet made it to FF's. If VCU can reach a FF, then why in the hell can't Painter?
Post whatever you need to make yourself feel better but I think it's a little odd to make fun of any clean coach for not landing more 5* players at a time when we are finding out a good deal of them are bought and paid for.

IMO you pay too much attention to stars. Now painter recruits well (over half his recruits are 4* by at least 1 recruiting service) but he recruits more to fit his system. If stars were all that mattered then Painter wouldn't have more sweet 16s in the last 11 years than IU has tournament appearances with their 23 4 and 5 star players (just on rivals) over that same amount of time.

Also IMO you're overlooking the luck it takes to go to final four. The teams you mentioned minus Texas tech didn't have the talent to make the tournament if they played in a big conference but had things break their way once they got there. The clear best team in college basketball this year was Duke but they got beat by a msu team that was down a couple rotation players. Indiana had the best team the year you guys ran into Syracuse. Those things happen and they've happened to the teams that painter has had with the best chance to get there (Hummel's ACL twice / Hass's elbow). On the flip side of that the least talented team Painter has had in a sweet 16 was this year and it turned out to be the one who was 5 seconds away from getting to the final four.

To use your logic and wording since you used VCU in that last sentence "If Shaka Smart can get to a final 4 at VCU, then why the hell cant he even win a NCAA tournament game at Texas?"
 
UK - Billy Clyde had never signed a contract.

UNC - Doherty was out after THREE years. Not two. And he resigned; he was not fired.

You prove - time and time again - that you struggle with facts. But it's easier to make ignorant statements, right?

As far as who'd you want to act like? Yeah, a school that runs fake classes for nearly 20 years - that's what we want to be? UK? Are you serious?

You want to be more like them - why are you here? Why not root for schools who share your ethics and viewpoints?

He has no ethics and his viewpoints shift to whatever narrative he's trying to push.
Turnips have more integrity and better reasoning.
 
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