VanPastorMan
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I think we could use some dedicated IU fans to kidnap Edey so he can't play ala Celtic Pride.Purdue doesn't have to use guards to help defend Trayce. They can put Gillis and Furst on him and just have Eddey help.
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I think we could use some dedicated IU fans to kidnap Edey so he can't play ala Celtic Pride.Purdue doesn't have to use guards to help defend Trayce. They can put Gillis and Furst on him and just have Eddey help.
Umm… no thanks? Taking a trip to Nebraska seems horrible.I meant to say higher ceiling this coming season. Impossible to say long term. Apologies.
You should go to a Nebraska football game sometime. One of the best experiences you will have. Best place in the big ten to tailgate and watch a game as an opposing fan.
I lead a very active life, but thanks for your concern for seniors. I was in Destin for two weeks and in the last week I have been in Pensacola, Tallahassee, Ocala, Atlanta, Nashville and West Lafayette. Walk three miles everyday and have an active social life. Plenty to do and lots of good times ahead!You are just old with nothing to do like Arc. Sad lives you guys live.
Just as I explained, it's not Portuguese. Insults do not change your spouting off despite reality contradicting you. Nerd or not, it doesn't change the fact that you are posting nonsense.Go back to learning Portuguese, nerd.
Dang, I can’t believe you can frequent so many IU boards with all that going on. Truly impressive!I lead a very active life, but thanks for your concern for seniors. I was in Destin for two weeks and in the last week I have been in Pensacola, Tallahassee, Ocala, Atlanta, Nashville and West Lafayette. Walk three miles everyday and have an active social life. Plenty to do and lots of good times ahead!
Go back to learning Portuguese, nerd.Just as I explained, it's not Portuguese. Insults do not change your spouting off despite reality contradicting you. Nerd or not, it doesn't change the fact that you are posting nonsense.
As for your contention about Edey being able to play effectively for the extra time last year, I'll just cite him directly as I think that he is a pretty good judge of what he could have done and can now do:
"I really have been working on my body, which kind of ties into the defensive part," Edey said. "I felt like I really needed to work on having foot speed, my lateral movement and stuff like that."
But perhaps you know better than he does about how he feels.
This appeared in Sports Illustrated in late 2022. https://www.si.com/college/purdue/b...purdue-basketball-despite-poor-shooting-night
Will he be an inefficient chucker?😂I know everything you do about them. If Illinois pushed, he’d be there. If IU pushed, you’d have no chance. Painter has to force kids to commit early to land recruits in today’s world. Great strategy really.
Except for Colvin. He will ruin your team
Not that I have much dog in this particular fight, but another good example would be Bo Ryan. While not a full 20 years, it took him about 15 to get to a Final 4. 10 years ago, most fans of other Big Ten teams (and especially MSU fans) had the similar criticism of Ryan: Really good coach, could consistently contend for Big Ten titles, and would consistently under-achieve in the tournament.So you have 1 example? Counter example, Leonard Hamilton.
Bo Ryan spent the first 15-20 years of his coaching career building one of the best D3 basketball programs in his country. He didn't start coaching big boy basketball until well into his 50's.Not that I have much dog in this particular fight, but another good example would be Bo Ryan. While not a full 20 years, it took him about 15 to get to a Final 4. 10 years ago, most fans of other Big Ten teams (and especially MSU fans) had the similar criticism of Ryan: Really good coach, could consistently contend for Big Ten titles, and would consistently under-achieve in the tournament.
....Until he then went to two consecutive Final Fours.
Don't knock it until you've tried itUmm… no thanks? Taking a trip to Nebraska seems horrible.
Been here since 2019 and this is your second post? Quite the troll.Will he be an inefficient chucker?😂
You are quite correct that Ryan was very successful at different campuses of the UW system prior to getting the Madison position. However, that is not the point of the prior discussion. It did take him 13 years (2001-2104) to get to a Final Four. The amount of time in Madison was the issue relative to the discussion.Bo Ryan spent the first 15-20 years of his coaching career building one of the best D3 basketball programs in his country. He didn't start coaching big boy basketball until well into his 50's.
Another counter example: Mike BreyNot that I have much dog in this particular fight, but another good example would be Bo Ryan. While not a full 20 years, it took him about 15 to get to a Final 4. 10 years ago, most fans of other Big Ten teams (and especially MSU fans) had the similar criticism of Ryan: Really good coach, could consistently contend for Big Ten titles, and would consistently under-achieve in the tournament.
....Until he then went to two consecutive Final Fours.
Absolutely. But Big_Fan was specifically looking for cases of coaches at the D1 level being given more leeway (time-wise) to produce a championship level team compared to what the IU fanbase patience level / expectations level requires.Bo Ryan spent the first 15-20 years of his coaching career building one of the best D3 basketball programs in his country. He didn't start coaching big boy basketball until well into his 50's.
To be fair. That’s fans. They have no idea what the coaches will do.The funny thing is, when they were recruiting him, the pitch was that they'd play TKR on the wing because they had bigs, and IU would try and plant him in the paint ala TJD. Now most of the are saying they're intending to play small ball next year with TKR at the 5.
When you can't refute the facts, turn to insults. Got it. Just a suggestion: you might want to see if your prospective post matches up with available reality before sending it on.Go back to learning Portuguese, nerd.
Not a great example. Notre Dame fans have NEVER cared about basketball. Half of their fans probably wouldn't have been able to know his name. 😈Another counter example: Mike Brey
Problem is the sked sets up just right for a swoon to happen. #1 PUR and a RUTG team we haven't beaten in four years, followed by four of the next five on the road.Absent a swoon from here on, IU is in the tourney.
He also coached at Wisconsin. If you're old like me, you don't know Wisconsin as anything but a terrible basketball program, that is up until Bo Ryan took over. I'm sure if Matt Painter is allowed to coach Purdue for 40+ years he'll likely take them to a F4, but that isn't leeway,Absolutely. But Big_Fan was specifically looking for cases of coaches at the D1 level being given more leeway (time-wise) to produce a championship level team compared to what the IU fanbase patience level / expectations level requires.
Boeheim at Syracuse was also at his 11th year at Syracuse before getting a Final Four. Admittedly, he was a former player, so he had some built in latitude from a fan perspective.
Go back to learning Portuguese, nerd.When you can't refute the facts, turn to insults. Got it. Just a suggestion: you might want to see if your prospective post matches up with available reality before sending it on.
At the same time, beating Rutgers and Purdue in back to back games likely cements IU's bid and we're just playing for seeding from here on out.Problem is the sked sets up just right for a swoon to happen. #1 PUR and a RUTG team we haven't beaten in four years, followed by four of the next five on the road.
It is a great example. Has similar resources as Purdue. Very similar career to Keady and Painter.Not a great example. Notre Dame fans have NEVER cared about basketball. Half of their fans probably wouldn't have been able to know his name. 😈
Agree wholeheartedly. I just wish I had enough confidence that it was going to happen, given how badly we played last night.At the same time, beating Rutgers and Purdue in back to back games likely cements IU's bid and we're just playing for seeding from here on out.
In fairness, Wisconsin did not have a good history for quite a while. However, they did get to a Final Four under Bennet not long before Ryan took over.He also coached at Wisconsin. If you're old like me, you don't know Wisconsin as anything but a terrible basketball program, that is up until Bo Ryan took over. I'm sure if Matt Painter is allowed to coach Purdue for 40+ years he'll likely take them to a F4, but that isn't leeway,
Yep--2000 Final Four, then Ryan took the reigns in the 2001-02 season (Bennett left three games into the 2000-01 season and Brad Soderberg was the interim).In fairness, Wisconsin did not have a good history for quite a while. However, they did get to a Final Four under Bennet not long before Ryan took over.
I know quite a few Notre Dame grads. I have worked with them and had them as neighbors. While it is true that football is king there, they can all tell you that ND broke UCLA's record-winning streak back when Wooden was there. I know that because I heard them do it. It's kind of an association with the history of the school. ND also ended Oklahoma's long winning streak in football as well. They used to show "Knute Rockne All American" on campus every year. It wouldn't surprise me if they still do it.It is a great example. Has similar resources as Purdue. Very similar career to Keady and Painter.
Actually, we were looking at coaches with 20 years of head coaching experience before reaching success. No specifications on D1. It was in regards to Painter entering his prime as a coach, which, at 52, is consider him entering his prime.Absolutely. But Big_Fan was specifically looking for cases of coaches at the D1 level being given more leeway (time-wise) to produce a championship level team compared to what the IU fanbase patience level / expectations level requires.
Boeheim at Syracuse was also at his 11th year at Syracuse before getting a Final Four. Admittedly, he was a former player, so he had some built in latitude from a fan perspective.
Knowing Portuguese can be quite handy when visiting Iberia or Brazil. Maybe I'll take it up after I finish learning the language that we are presently studying and then plan a trip to South America. My wife is good with romance languages so she should pick up Portuguese fairly easily. I've had Latin and French so I should do OK, but not as well as her.Go back to learning Portuguese, nerd.
I love port. Think I'll take up Portuguese. Would love to go the the port houses there. This board should be extremely interesting after Saturday's game.When you can't refute the facts, turn to insults. Got it. Just a suggestion: you might want to see if your prospective post matches up with available reality before sending it on.
Go back to learning Portuguese, nerdI know quite a few Notre Dame grads. I have worked with them and had them as neighbors. While it is true that football is king there, they can all tell you that ND broke UCLA's record-winning streak back when Wooden was there. I know that because I heard them do it. It's kind of an association with the history of the school. ND also ended Oklahoma's long winning streak in football as well. They used to show "Knute Rockne All American" on campus every year. It wouldn't surprise me if they still do it.
????It is a great example. Has similar resources as Purdue. Very similar career to Keady and Painter.
Do you really believe that act? He is a ord/Birnk/jackassskip level liar.Go back to learning Portuguese, nerd.
Oh, and...Gilligan.Doubling down on stupid is no way to go through life Gilligan. Did Mommy make you oatmeal?
He also has the 9th most sweet 16s of all active coaches i think? He will get some luck to match his talent one of these years. If the top 4 teams in the country made the final 4 each year, he'd make it this year. He still might, but never do the top 16 teams make the sweet 16.Painter is a good coach, but F4-caliber is a stretch considering he has exactly zero F4 appearances in 20 years at Purdue.
Perhaps beating mid-majors is something a bigger school with more resources should be able to do without "luck." Should it really take a good coach 20-25 years to make one FF? Keady never made one. Coaches get fired all of the time for lack of March success in a much smaller time period.He also has the 9th most sweet 16s of all active coaches i think? He will get some luck to match his talent one of these years. If the top 4 teams in the country made the final 4 each year, he'd make it this year. He still might, but never do the top 16 teams make the sweet 16.
I keep trying to tell your colleague that I am not learning Portuguese. That is his line.Do you really believe that act? He is a ord/Birnk/jackassskip level liar.
The losing and the mediocrity (even when we think we have potential) and lack of effort and heart, it's not this loss, maybe I'm a lot older that you, but it's 20 f'n years of this shit and I'm getting tired of being optimistic or defending that it will get better when it never does. Change is needed or there should be help on the way, but I don't see either🤔 what triggered you? No one ever said last night was okay. It was a total stinker and they played horrible. Just saying that I’m over it… As a fan, no sense to be pissed for an extended time for a road loss with the biggest home game in a decade on the horizon.
I really question your claim that "Coaches get fired all of the time for lack of March success in a much smaller time period." There may be some but I cannot think of one. I know coaches get fired for not making the NCAA Tournament, but I can't think of a coach that pretty consistently makes the NCAA Tournament but does not make a FF and gets fired absent some other issue like recruiting violations or scandal. Can you name some as it happens "...all of the time." so there must be a good number of them?Perhaps beating mid-majors is something a bigger school with more resources should be able to do without "luck." Should it really take a good coach 20-25 years to make one FF? Keady never made one. Coaches get fired all of the time for lack of March success in a much smaller time period.
You are still here?I keep trying to tell your colleague that I am not learning Portuguese. That is his line.
I am learning a different language. And as for the liar accusation, it's false and something that you are just throwing out because you are a frustrated, bitter and obviously unhappy person. Why lie about learning a foreign language as an adult? There is no inherent advantage in doing so. I am learning the language because we are planning a trip and want to have familiarity with the language spoken where we are going. That doesn't sound crazy to me. Plus, locals tend to treat you better when you try to communicate with them in their language, even if your grammar and diction are a bit off. That is the case in my experience.
As for taking classes as an adult: I know people who have taken/are taking cooking classes, music classes, art classes and movie classes in addition to language classes. Our local library gives classes on computer use and programs. So I don't see what is so odd about that. Ever seen the commercials on tv for Rosetta Stone? Who do you think they are trying to sell that to? Here's a hint: they don't buy ad time for no reason.