Again, instead of gay if she was spending a bunch of school time to explain tenets of Christianity or Islam with the kids, would that be evangelizing? If "groomer" gives you pause, then how about evangelically gay?
that's ****ing hilarious. Teachers do more shit outside of teaching (because they are required to or expected to) than at any time in this country's history.
this is the real issue....the right thinks the mere mention of Johnny having two dads is shoving something down someone's throat.
Yep, slavery is the same as 5 year olds being taught they are not their biological sex by grown adults in a public institution. Great analogy. You come across as a loon.
How is that working out and who asked them to? I would say not well and sure as hell was not people like me.
Really? it isn't flaming red conservatives in states like Indiana? Are you sure about that?
Neither. And I don't say that in an inflammatory way. I believe that is the issue...they don't want any mention of two dads or two moms because it normalizes it. Maybe not to a rational person like you, but to the right that is leading the charge on issues like this? Like the 'Don't say gay' crowd? absolutely I think this
My son started school this year and guess what? He was 5. Most Kindergartners are 5 when they start school.
Specifically, what are flaming red conservatives in Indiana asking teachers to cover that they have not in the past? Educate me. What are flaming red conservatives asking teachers to do?
The lefts overreaction to the Dont Say Gay fiasco is proof they are not serious people. Forbidding discussing gender ideology with 3rd graders isn’t bigotry. It’s common sense.
"Don't say gay" is as real as "hands up don't shoot".
How do you say I have no children in school without saying I have no children in school?
Yes, she would. And that would be wrong in a public school. However, I don't think she was looking for converts as you note. I believe she was trying to preach (for lack of a better term) tolerance.
I guess I'm still confused. Any idea what specifically the original preschool teacher in question here was actually doing that was so awful?
Outside of poorly explaining how to teach tolerance to preschoolers, not much.
So you are cool with a public school teacher turning her/his classroom into Sunday School in the name of tolerance I assume?
The funny thing is, a clear majority of people actually agree with the text of that bill, both in Florida and nationwide.
I think - to me - the assumption is that she’s talking to preschoolers about queerness or being queer. Her existence in the classroom isn’t problematic but her discussing it with 4 and unders is clearly a problem in confusing the kids. It positions queerness as something to aspire to as many kids want to be like their teachers at a young age.
I can agree with this take. I understand what she's "trying" to do but I think she's doing a piss poor job pulling it off.
How is seeking allies not intentional?
Whether intentional or not, she doesn’t understand how powerful she is by being the kids’ teacher. She’s their role model and everything she says is going straight into their lobes as FACT.
I think this is much closer to what's happening. She is unaware of how the message would be received by her audience. She might just be an idiot.
Interesting. The City of Disney is no more.
And imagine the tip-toeing required by administration to explain to her this isn’t acceptable for preschool. She has so many “cards” she can play. She’s been given all the power.
I wouldn't have any problem with someone teaching that we shouldn't discriminate against Johnny because he is a Christian and that we should accept people of different religions or no religions at all because there are lots of different ways to to lead your life.
The crap that is coming out of their camp lately is pretty alarming, but put me down for being duped. I had no idea.
And now this...Jezuz.
I guess now I'm confused about "something to aspire to". I would suspect that the teacher in question would reject that because it then also offers up an alternative of straightness as "something to aspire to" when what I get from her is that people should be accepted for and accept themselves for what they are. Is that a "something to aspire to" that you have a problem with?
Think only b/c at a preschool level they have no idea what gay, straight, queer even means.
Haha! That may be the first time anyone has ever said that to me, so thanks. That's generally not a virtue I possess, but I appreciate your thoughtful perspective on this topic with Ranger and crazy.
