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It sucks for him, but it was the right decision by Miller. He wasn't good enough to play at this level. He also had the opportunity to remain on scholarship, just not be on the team. Welcome to the real world.
totally....thanks creanIt sucks for him, but it was the right decision by Miller. He wasn't good enough to play at this level. He also had the opportunity to remain on scholarship, just not be on the team. Welcome to the real world.
dude should be thankful he was ever on the team. at least he can put that on his resumeYes it seems he was treated fairly, just not the way he wanted to be treated.
If he was at a meeting where everyone was told "you're my guys" that was just plain wrong.
How many times should we read on this board that he was recruited specifically to be a 3-point shooter and not to play defense?
Perhaps Crean should apologize to him for recruiting him where he was way over his head just like his coach.[/QUOTE
really?disgraceful behavior by Miller and IU.
sad how low the bar of acceptable behavior has become.
i realize other schools behave poorly as well, but that doesn't make it ok.
Care to elaborate of what exactly you think was disgraceful? Do to believe they should've kept him on the team as a charity case? His school would've been paid for regardless of whether or not he was on the team. And on the team or off of it, his playing time probably would've been about the same. So the honesty of CAM was disgraceful? Or was it giving him his requested release?disgraceful behavior by Miller and IU.
sad how low the bar of acceptable behavior has become.
i realize other schools behave poorly as well, but that doesn't make it ok.
GTFOHdisgraceful behavior by Miller and IU.
sad how low the bar of acceptable behavior has become.
i realize other schools behave poorly as well, but that doesn't make it ok.
Spot onCare to elaborate of what exactly you think was disgraceful? Do to believe they should've kept him on the team as a charity case? His school would've been paid for regardless of whether or not he was on the team. And on the team or off of it, his playing time probably would've been about the same. So the honesty of CAM was disgraceful? Or was it giving him his requested release?
From what I have read IU and Miller did nothing wrong.disgraceful behavior by Miller and IU.
sad how low the bar of acceptable behavior has become.
i realize other schools behave poorly as well, but that doesn't make it ok.
RMK did this kind of thing all time by sitting down with the kid and letting him know he had no ftuure with the program.GTFOH
Crean NEVER should have offered the kid. Ever. Hell, he was the end of the bench at the Indiana All-Stars - where event organizers are looking to SHOWCASE players going to IU. That should have been the first red flag. Second flag is when he announced he was going to transfer - where were all the MAC-level schools waiting to scoop him up?
I don't blame Grant one bit. His parents? They're just defending their son. But Miller was being honest with the kid. Anyone who tries to spin this in a bad light is nothing more than a hater and a troll.
What is disappointing, Pater?This is pretty disappointing to me as well and quite surprising.
Just because he and his parents didn't like the result it doesn't mean he was treated unfairly. In fact, it looks like just the opposite. He was given an honest evaluation of his future on the team, granted a release when asked for, and could've had his school paid for even without playing if he stayed.
State Fair Community College.Second flag is when he announced he was going to transfer - where were all the MAC-level schools waiting to scoop him up?
apparently you don't understand how big time college basketball works. Digger and Knight did way worse. Archis was honest with the kid. He wasn't ever gonna see the floor. Sometimes life is toughMy opinion of Archie Miller just went completely down the tubes. What an idiot
apparently you don't understand how big time college basketball works. Digger and Knight did way worse. Archis was honest with the kid. He wasn't ever gonna see the floor. Sometimes life is tough
Coaches have done this forever in college basketball even our HOF coach.My opinion of Archie Miller just went completely down the tubes. What an idiot
No, Arch did not over commit and then get rid of him. There's a huge difference between what Crean did constantly and what Arch just did. One is based on lying to players, the other is based on being honest and up front..Am I seeing a double standard here???
Did Gelon just get CAMmed?
Miller's mistake was in not telling him that he was no longer going to be a part of the team, even if he wanted to be. By not being fully honest, he left the door open enough that GG wanted to remain and believed he could. Up front and complete candor would've made this a non-issue. There is, of course, a reason why situations like this spin out of control, and it's directly a result of Glass's self serving Bill of Rights, which is mostly about public relations and much less about student athletes.My opinion of Archie Miller just went completely down the tubes. What an idiot
RMK did this kind of thing all time by sitting down with the kid and letting him know he had no ftuure with the program.
After each year he would sit down and tell the kids where they stood and some was told it would be best to transfer.Who did Knight do this to? He even kept his kid in the team when he had no business playing D1 basketball.
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This is pretty disappointing to me as well and quite surprising.
This is what happens when you over sign. At some point the "it works itself out" stuff becomes having to tell a kid to gtfo.
It's hard hearing that you aren't good enough. I feel bad for the kid. He had no chance at success here but Tom brought him in anyway.
There is one key difference here though. Archie did not recruit Grant to play at IU.I have no problem with what Archie evidently did.
If Grant is not good enough to play for IU (and he obviously is not) he should be told it is in his best interest to move on.
I also had no problem when Crean did it.
Double standard, pure & simple.
Every time an IU player transferred under Crean, Crean was crucified. Many times without the details being known.
Again, I have no problem with Archie being honest with the kid. It was the right thing to do.
But it is a double standard & anyone who doesn't see it is ignorant & too biased to admit the truth about it.
That is the true mark of a "hater"