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If Donald Trump conceded everything to Liz Cheney that she could ask for, do you think she would agree to put him in charge of the party? Sometimes you have nuked the bridge so bad, there is nothing you can do to repair it but get out of the way.
I was responding to a claim that at least some of them are opposing on principle over rules, and not because of some personal never-Kevin agenda.
Further reading suggests that the opponents claiming to demand concessions have been continuing to hold out while the final details are ironed out and put on paper.
No, I mean someone who had voted for him voted for someone else. He went from 201 votes to 200, did he not?
At some point in history I believe it exceeded one hundred. Where’s Marv? D & D night? He’ll know
Why don't you get some of your Democrat buddies to propose lifting the income cap?
You know why they don't - they don't want to be taxed themselves.
Much easier to demagogue.
There's too much demagoguing and the media jumps on anyone who suggests plans to accomplish those goals. But you don't hear proposals because they are immediately shot down and politicians cower when they have to stand up for unpopular policies.
Of course it's difficult - that's why we elect Representatives and Senators. We don't elect them to sit on problems, which is what's being done.
Listen to Mayor Pete's speeches sometime - it's nothing BUT 'lofy rhetoric ...... but no solutions". Of course, he's not the only one, but he's the most blatant, imo.
Actually, they do. All the time. Senators, House members, year after year, propose just that. Biden has publicly supported it. Most recently, Angie Craig, D-MN, proposed a bill that included raising the cap, along with Republican Peter Meijer from Michigan. Unfortunately, Meijer also voted to impeach Trump, and ended up getting primaried from the right.
The proposals to raise the cap are very popular among both Dems and Repubs, and plenty of politicians have pushed and supported those proposals. You denying they do this, and dismissing them as demagogues, is just flat out dishonest.
I see you've deleted the posts where I made you look stupid.
Must be nice to be able to destroy any evidence of it. Coward.
So charge him. Or STFU.Unlike the attempts at false equivalency you're trying to make, at least 6 former OSU wrestlers testified under oath in a court of law that they personally brought their allegations of abuse by (team doctor) Strauss to Jordan's attention...
Six former wrestlers say Rep. Jim Jordan knew about abusive OSU doctor
Despite the former coach's claims that he knew nothing of sexual misconduct allegations against team doctor Richard Strauss, multiple wrestlers say they witnessed him being told directly.www.cnn.com
In addition a referee filed suit against OSU over an incident with Strauss, and in his lawsuit that ref specifically mentioned bringing the matter to Jordan's attention...
Referee says he complained to Jim Jordan about sexual misconduct by Ohio State athletics department doctor, lawsuit alleges | CNN
A college wrestling referee says former Ohio State University athletic team doctor Richard Strauss masturbated in front of him inside a locker room shower in the mid-1990's, according to a new lawsuit filed against the school.www.cnn.com
Now no idea why you'd think this is some sort of "Dem plot", most of the people involved likely support Jordan as far as his political views go. What they don't support is his lack of honesty and failure to take responsibility on a personal level. In fact it appears it was this blanket denial from Jordan in 2018 that inspired both the 2019 and 2020 lawsuits...
"Since the scandal emerged, Jordan has emphatically denied that he knew anything about Strauss’ abuse during his own years working at OSU, between 1987 and 1995. “Congressman Jordan never saw any abuse, never heard about any abuse, and never had any abuse reported to him during his time as a coach at Ohio State,” his congressional office said in 2018."
Funny how Jordan did not make those denials UNDER OATH. And as a result of him issuing that denial multiple people basically called him a liar, and had no problem calling him out while they were UNDER OATH.
My mistake for trying to engage you again. I don't know why I keep doing this. I guess your ability to act like an adult in the Ukraine thread fooled me into thinking you might have a reasonable discussion about any other topic, too.
"I see you've deleted the posts where I made you look stupid."
Sorry, I'm done putting in the effort. Play with yourself from now on.
So don't engage me. You follow me around, waiting to troll me on something you think you can gig me on. Then you have posts deleted that make you look ridiculous.
I know your game. The only reason you claim I 'act like an adult in the Ukraine thread' is because you agree with me.
Don't be such a ****ing baby.
He endorsed McCarthy for speaker. He’s a loser, but will claim credit no matter who actually ends up Speaker.
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To be clear, here, I thought this was a funny impossibility. I do not have an inside line to Rep. Gaetz.
FBI, please reread that last sentence: I do NOT know or communicate with Rep. Gaetz.
I’m hearing a lot of talk about irregularities in the vote count, ballot dumps and a lot about GPS data coming out. Also, word getting out about an odd amount of bamboo and panda shit all over the place. I’m expecting Kari Lake to declare herself the winner any minute now.
The House Rs are being taught a hard lesson on what it’s like to be on the other side of an anti-democratic institutional system where the minority has the outsized power to hijack the process. Just like the founders set up when organizing the House.
We’ll need to cross reference their statements on this with responses to complaints about the EC.
We’ll need to cross reference their statements on this with responses to complaints about the EC.
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Would this be enough of a sweetener to get dems to help elect a moderate republican?
Personally, i think it would be in the dems best interest to back a moderate republican anyway who will promise equal representation on committees. Gaetz resigning would be a cherry on the top.
"This is the best season of C-Span ever." - Jon Stewart
No. republicans have shown us time and again who they are and how they operate. These dogs caught the car, let them figure it out.
If McCarthy gets their vote by becoming their puppet, then we get to watch 2 years of a shitshow.
Some things will be a pain in the ass no matter what. But that’s politics. No one has clean hands there.
It will be immeasurably worse if McCarthy gives away the store, completely neuters the Speaker position and the House ends up being effectively run by a very small number of fringe folks.
