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She deserved to be shot the second she tried climbing through the window. Enough of that crap at that point. Lucky a few more of those idiots weren't shot when attempting to break the glass. Try that at someone's home sometime and get back to me.
The officer is a hero who deserves your praise. It was a perfect shot.
She was killed in cold blood, with 2 Capitol Officers standing within 10 feet of her that never tried to stop her.
You are advocating a police killing for that.
Were you all for sitting on the neck of a black man for resisting arrest?
The fact that you compare the two situations says a lot about you. Which is what I would expect with you. Somehow I suspect if a BLM group was there instead that day your attitude would be very different.
She deserved everything she got at that point. There was plenty of time to turn around.
The easy and obvious counter to that is that Democrats care nothing about those issues. Is this helpful?
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Though the Jihan 20 are some of the biggest lowlifes in the world, McCarthy is an idiot. He had months find a way to get the Never Kevins on his side, and couldn't get it done.
Instead of stepping aside when he couldn't get it done, he allowed himself - and his party - to be humiliated over and over again.
Instead of stepping aside when he couldn't get it done, he allowed himself - and his party - to be humiliated over and over again.
You better go look up the definition of hypocrisy. I think you are confused.
The smart move for the Dems, IMO, would be to get a handful of relatively small concessions out of McCarthy and let a handful of their people vote present or for him.
A Republican is going to be Speaker, they already look dysfunctional, might as well get something out of it and neuter the crazies along the way.
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House Is Paralyzed Without a Speaker—Creating National Security Risks and a Shadow Shutdown
Imagine if this impasse were occurring in a presidential inaugural year.
www.thebulwark.com
Surprisingly the Dems have held their ground and continue to be given opportunities to poke the Republicans with ZERO fight back.
This might end up being the greatest self own since not remembering what "is" means.
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Negotiations. Compromise. GovernmentHouse Is Paralyzed Without a Speaker—Creating National Security Risks and a Shadow Shutdown
Imagine if this impasse were occurring in a presidential inaugural year.
Surprisingly the Dems have held their ground and continue to be given opportunities to poke the Republicans with ZERO fight back.
This might end up being the greatest self own since not remembering was "is" means.
My fault. This whole situation is actually showing how strong the republicans are and how the democrats are in total disarray. Republicans have such strong leadership in the house, how can they pick just one?
Seriously, what did republicans think would happen when they nominate and elect a bunch of “government sucks” assholes? Wait, because conservative.
Watching the republicans dunk on themselves is hilarious.House Is Paralyzed Without a Speaker—Creating National Security Risks and a Shadow Shutdown
Imagine if this impasse were occurring in a presidential inaugural year.
Surprisingly the Dems have held their ground and continue to be given opportunities to poke the Republicans with ZERO fight back.
This might end up being the greatest self own since not remembering what "is" means.
The gang of 20 actually never intended to govern...they ran on laptops, subpoenas and impeachment hearings...
Correct, if Dems want to play the long game. If they all voted Present - or enough of them - McCarthy could punish the dissenters and leave them off key committees - that would presumably help a Democrat agenda - in the long run.
But I don't think they're acting strategically.
Pretty funny they are putting up a vocal Election Denier at their Speaker candidate.
Suspect many Americans are watching the chaos surrounding the House trying to elect a Speaker with glee. They aren't all Democrats either.
The ones to which I refer are the anti-government and anti-establishment citizens who vote for mostly Republicans from their district who staunchly share their beliefs. When they hear about laws being passed by the legislative chambers on the Potomac their thoughts go to America becoming a country which runs contrary to what made America great.
They much prefer a strong President who talks their language and shares their values to a legislature loaded with socialists and old line establishment big government pols who gave us high taxes, huge deficits, and open borders (to name a few anti- American trends of past establishment legislatures).
The ones to which I refer are the anti-government and anti-establishment citizens who vote for mostly Republicans from their district who staunchly share their beliefs. When they hear about laws being passed by the legislative chambers on the Potomac their thoughts go to America becoming a country which runs contrary to what made America great.
They much prefer a strong President who talks their language and shares their values to a legislature loaded with socialists and old line establishment big government pols who gave us high taxes, huge deficits, and open borders (to name a few anti- American trends of past establishment legislatures).
As a Republican, what I want is pretty simple:
- a DOJ that doesn't have a double standard, depending on your political bent
- A government that pays for its spending, within a balanced budget.
- Strong defense so other countries aren't tempted to confront us.
- Restructure Social Security and Medicare so they are financially viable.
- Implement a guest worker program and enforce immigration laws
- a government that stays the hell out of private businesses and stops censuring opposing political views (see the DOJ comment above)
- stay the hell out of schools - all schools
That's really about all I want. It's up to the legislature and executive branch to figure out how to implement - I'm available for consultation.
I would think these would be the goals of Democrats, too, and instead of worrying about 'equity', worry about equal opportunity. I realize that's like hoping there are unicorns.
Sounds like a preference for autocracy. No thanks. I prefer a representative democracy - - you know, the form of government we've had for 240+ years, contemplated by the founders and effectuated by constitutional design.
Gaetz broke the seal. Vote #8 should be interesting.
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But all many Republicans do is interfere with schools. Only when it relates to issues they disagree with. Interference is interference...
Someone needs to do something different. Nominate Scalise or something. Anything to mix things up and see if there can be movement.
The problem is it becomes "A pox on all their houses" moment. I really am in favor of a compromise with the moderates in the GOP without demanding too much. This morning I heard that could be Fred Upton, recently retired R from Michigan.
For the Ds who want partisanship, think of it this way. Saying Ds put country over party to help Republicans choose a Republican would have to play well in any of the more districts.
While we wait on ballot #17, let's head down to Louisiana....
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Having a moderate in charge would be refreshing. I think they need 6 Republicans to go along and not sure that would happen. It would certainly piss off the extremists blocking McCarthy
I'd love for there to be a compromise but that isn't going to happen. This is a defining moment for the Republican party. The internal discussions going on that aren't even being reported on must be fascinating. Interesting to see what Republican party comes out of this.
Question - Does DeSantis wade into these waters or keep his distance? Can he become the leader of the Republican party in this moment?
The CLF has agreed to what was asked. If McCarthy has agreed to the rules changes that were asked then they need to vote for McCarthy. I agree with them holding out for the three things originally discussed. If those are official then it’s time.
In Florida, a bill would ban teachers from saying “racial colorblindness” is racist. In South Carolina, a bill would ban teaching that “equity is a concept that is superior to or supplants the concept of equality.” In New Hampshire, “promoting a negative account or representation of the founding and history of the United States of America” could become illegal, if a bill were to pass.
Here's the Long List of Topics Republicans Want Banned From the Classroom
There are now 61 censorship bills proposed in 24 states. One legislator wants teachers to pay $10,000 for teaching "critical race theory."
www.edweek.org
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