I like what I've heard on both Franklin and Galloway, as I love tenacious, smart hard-nosed players. But, it does seem like we're starting to duplicate talents between those two and possibly adding Leal. From what I know, none are true PGs, although it seems Franklin might be the closest to a combo out of the 3. But, it seems with Green leaving after this year, we should be thinking about a PG in this class, and if we've got 4 spots, can we afford both Galloway, Leal and a PG? Do you think CAM is looking at one more as a PG, and who, or do you expect we'll still add a PG in this class?
Layout our future backcourt for me
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I think Diarra is the only point guard IU would take this year (along with Davis and Love who aren't coming) with Lander being the prized target in 2021. I think IU is in good position with Leal. Cross, and Diarra and would take all 3 if they committed. Loveday and Geronimo could be guys we land but I don't think we're in as great of standing. You won't see Archie throw out scholarships just because, and if we somehow don't get Diarra I would suspect a grad transfer PG would get the nod as an emergency back up to Phinisee. IU may be best served only using 3 scholarships this year and using the 4th for a grad transfer with how loaded the in-state prospects are in 2021.
We have 4 openings but if we took 4 in this class, that would only leave 2 for '21 unless someone leaves early.
We need a back-up PG and a C/PF type. And maybe a shooting forward, depending on Hunter's status. And maybe a pure shooter, like Leal, regardless of position. So potentially 4 areas of need with 2 'ships available.
You don't have to fill your scholarships with 4 year players. I'm guessing IU get's Leal and Cross and depending on what Diarra or Loveday do, IU can offer their 4th remaining scholarship to a grad transfer PG or Center.
That would make sense. They'd take Loveday if they could get him, but it doesn't seem likely.
Edit---The same may apply to the back-up PG position. If we get Leal or Cross, but not both, and don't get Diarra, CAM could go with 1 year grad transfers at both PG & PF/C. After that the roster would be repaired.
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Anderson, if he is to remain a part of the program, will be in the "future back court".
As it stands:
2019-20, Green, Durham, Phinisee
2020-21, Durham, Phinisee, Franklin, Anderson
2021-22, Phinisee, Franklin, Anderson, Galloway
As it stands:
2019-20, Green, Durham, Phinisee
2020-21, Durham, Phinisee, Franklin, Anderson
2021-22, Phinisee, Franklin, Anderson, Galloway
2019-20, Green, Durham, Phinisee, Anderson, Franklin
2020-21, Durham, Phinisee, Anderson, Franklin, Galloway
2021-22 Phinisee, Anderson, Franklin, Galloway
I will be pleasantly surprised if we see much of Franklin this year. Or not, because it could mean Hunter isn't playing and/or Anderson isn't playing.
However, it is interesting to look at the roster and ask if Franklin might be good enough that starting Rob, Al, and Green together becomes a possibility, which conservatively would be unlikely based on a lack of perceived guard depth.
That doesn't make sense if you are building the roster based around 3 and 4 year players which recent champions and final 4 title contenders suggest should be the plan.
Certainly not if Hunter can play and Thompson is any good. If no Hunter, you almost have to start those three even though collectively, imo, they're nothing special. I'm not counting on anything from Anderson.
Steward isn't really a true PG so that's why I didn't include him, but yes they'd take him in a heartbeat as well.
After Phinisse graduates..
If we have Lander in the wings that's all that matters..
Lander is even a bigger get than Furst..
If we have Lander in the wings that's all that matters..
Lander is even a bigger get than Furst..
We could wait to get a PG in '21 as long as Franklin can back up Phinisee and we feel good about getting Lander or another quality PG. It would be great to have Galloway, Leal, Phinisee, Lander and Franklin as our back court.
Hunter and Anderson could play the 3. TJD and Thompson would need help in '21. We need a big in '20 and 2 in '21.
Lander is a priority no doubt at PG after Phinisee
Furst and Kaufman should also be priorities at the 4 and 3.
I don't disagree what IU may need from those 3 but practically it is not likely that they start together because it would be difficult to sub them, unless Franklin is good enough to be a solid back up guard.
How quickly Franklin adapts to the college game could be one of the key unknowns to this season. I believe that Franklin has the skillset to be the backup PG allowing Green and Al to focus on scoring the ball off screens and movement without the ball.
Would good lord I would hope so, that was his perceived strength coming out of high school.
I'm a waste of time??? Ha, I'm not the one proclaiming that Franklin doesn't have the skill set to be groomed as a PG, especially considering you haven't ever seen him play. But yes, continue to do you.
So you don't want to answer the question? Yes or no doesn't take much time to post.
What was Smith's perceived strength out of HS? He can jump really high is not a basketball skill. Hanner Perea could also jump really high.
Lol at "talking out of his league" with you clown. Why don't we begin by you analyzing again how McGinnis did as a "Knight player" while at IU......that was a good one.
I didn't want to engage you because you're a moron, and it's a waste of time. The last time you were brutalized. But I will since you won't shut your trap.
I have not seen Franklin in person. I did watch him twice on TV, and I have seen both his HG & AAU tapes, and his HS & AAU stats. And the bottom line is he's not going to run the point for significant periods of time as a college freshman. The guy averaged 2 assists per game as a senior. He did average 3.8 as a junior, but his HS coach put him in a role as a sr where he stopped and popped, rebounded, and played defense. If you watch his sr highlights, it is clear that his handle is not that of someone who is going to play pg as a college freshman. In HS, his A/TO ratio was a little over 1/1. With Mean Streets, he averaged 1.2 assists & 1.5 TOs per game.
I'm not saying the guy's a bad player. But it's foolish to think he's going to come in as a freshman and successfully play significant minutes at his second position.
Did anyone ever suggest Franklin “was going to get significant time at point guard”? You’re reading comprehension sucks. He absolutely has the skill set, especially if being groomed now, to play a back up PG role.
Now kindly shut the hell up and move along.
There’s absolutely no way of knowing who will pan out, who will stay, and what positions they’ll be at 3 years from now. It’s insane. And it’s only ever done to deflect away how bad things are at the present moment.
Yes moron,ufo did suggest that....he said Franklin, in his opinion, "has the skillset to be the backup PG....". That is the post to which I responded. Notice that he didn't say a backup point guard, as you indicate. Words matter, and you're an idiot.
Now iubud, you understand why I didn't want to engage the fool.
How many back up PGs play "significant minutes"?
Eric Hunter, one of the most prolific scorers in Indiana High School basketball history, was able to contribute in a back up PG role for Purdue last year (not his natural position). Someone like Franklin playing 5-6 minutes a game in a PG role does not constitute significant minutes.
Log off and take a lap.
"At present moment" it is not basketball season. Your posts often suggest to me that you do not realize this.
So......lets get you on the record. You believe Franklin will play 5-6 minutes per game in a back-up PG role? Yes or no?
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