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Who is "they"? 4chann?
Yes, I saw the link 20 was talking about. That someone called inas a client.id be really surprised if he fell for that. If nothing else, he is correct about all the yearbook lingo that he pointed out to Davis. Wonder if they will question Kavanaugh about that. So am I correct that a female attorney is questioning Dr. Ford, and the Dems are questioning Kavanaugh?
 
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/25/michael-avenatii-kavanaugh-accusations-4chan-841348

Avenatti completely denies the 4chan fake story, says he knew about the accuser well before Sunday

Politico said:
“I made the determination she was 100 percent credible well before Sunday night,” Avenatti, the attorney who also represents the adult-film actress Stormy Daniels in her lawsuit against President Donald Trump, told POLITICO, referring to the first time he disclosed the allegations involving Kavanaugh. “We’ve received over 3,000 inquiries in the last six months from people with all kinds of crazy stories and fabrications. I’ve heard it all. I’ve seen it all. Like we don’t vet clients. Give me a break.”

It's hilarious that people will believe internet trolls. Some of them claimed they made the Steele dossier and forwarded it to John McCain back in the day.
 
You would assume that he did his due diligence prior to making mention of another accuser. He may be a publicity hound and possibly a touch sleazy but he doesn't strike me as stupid .


There is a reason that none of the Dems are giving his claims any weight whatsoever, at this point.
 
They have to be democrat women though, because when Mia Love ran the first time she got blistered as a traitor by democrat blacks. In fact if conservative black men run they are routinely called sell outs and uncle toms. Even Candace Owens who puts videos on youtube gets slammed for being a conservative. So if you are female and or black then you are seen as one who is wrong for America if you are conservative.
Did everybody see this ?

About 2:39 today in the OpEd by Patti Davis thread I asked "VanPastorMan" as follows: "What in the world does an honest pastor think evidence is, anyway? Oral statements by two women and an angel? (You do know the story without looking it up, don't you?)"

He's still posting garbage on other threads without answering these two questions. He may not know how to answer.
 
Oh, well he completely denies it....that clears it up. :rolleyes:

Well, it does seem a tad far fetched, does it not?

That said, if this mystery accuser never materializes then we'll always wonder. And in that case I'll choose to believe that those rascals at 4chan punked him. Because I'd find that to be awesome.
 
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Well, it does seem a tad far fetched, does it not?

That said, if this mystery accuser never materializes then we'll always wonder. And in that case I'll choose to believe those rascals at 4chan punked him. Because I'd find that to be awesome.

Yes, I think it's far fetched too....but this guy is basically a celebrity version of an ambulance chaser....who has $10m bankruptcy judgment against him, and owes half a mil to the IRS. He needs something bigger than Stormy and her $130k payoff from Trump.
 
Seriously, this Renate sounds like a popular girl who dated, in the pre-Millenial sense of the word, a lot of boys from Georgetown Prep and they didn't get very much action. I can't imagine a 17-year-old calling himself "Chairman of the Bored" if he were bragging of sexual conquests.
So here is what Renate has to say about the yearbook, and by the way, she was an original signee of the 65 women that supported him.
The yearbook insinuation is horrible , hurtful, and simply untrue. I pray their daughters are never treated this way. Sound like she was a popular girl that dated all of them?
Look up what FFFF Fourth of July means and Devil’s Triangle and boofing. Yep, just horseplay.
Use Urban Dictionary.
 
Yes, I saw the link 20 was talking about. That someone called inas a client.id be really surprised if he fell for that. If nothing else, he is correct about all the yearbook lingo that he pointed out to Davis. Wonder if they will question Kavanaugh about that. So am I correct that a female attorney is questioning Dr. Ford, and the Dems are questioning Kavanaugh?
Oddly, the Senate is going by their rules. Every Senator may use their allotted time and question or not. Most Republicans will yield to the newly hired staff attorney - maybe all of them. Chair and Rankin minority ember will make opening remarks. The staff lawyer will ask questions of Kavanaugh also. Its is, as it should be, the way the Senate conducts business under their rules. You probably can count on some Dem Senators to thrust themselves into the limelight and attempt to practice law - or run their mouths for their political advantage.
 
Yes, I think it's far fetched too....but this guy is basically a celebrity version of an ambulance chaser....who has $10m bankruptcy judgment against him, and owes half a mil to the IRS. He needs something bigger than Stormy and her $130k payoff from Trump.

My guess is that he does indeed have a client with a story, but this client doesn't want to testify or tell the story publicly. The whole "soon," or "in 48 hours,", or "when she's ready," is just a delay hoping that the threat of this will be enough.

We'll see. I'd say there's a 35% chance we never hear from this one.
 
Oddly, the Senate is going by their rules. Every Senator may use their allotted time and question or not. Most Republicans will yield to the newly hired staff attorney - maybe all of them. Chair and Rankin minority ember will make opening remarks. The staff lawyer will ask questions of Kavanaugh also. Its is, as it should be, the way the Senate conducts business under their rules. You probably can count on some Dem Senators to thrust themselves into the limelight and attempt to practice law - or run their mouths for their political advantage.

There's several Dems on the committee who have been prosecutors/AGs, so it'd be silly to act like they shouldn't ask questions. I would be fine if Republican Senators wanted to ask questions of Ford is well, although I see how it's politically smart to disassociate themselves from grilling an alleged victim in 2018.
 
My guess is that he does indeed have a client with a story, but this client doesn't want to testify or tell the story publicly. The whole "soon," or "in 48 hours,", or "when she's ready," is just a delay hoping that the threat of this will be enough.

We'll see. I'd say there's a 35% chance we never hear from this one.

The guy said he had a client....and then publicly accused a Federal judge of drugging and gang raping girls. I'm guessing he could have some fairly serious trouble with the bar if nothing comes of it. And could be the reason he pulled his Twitter account where he posted all this stuff.
 
Um, no, that’s not what it sounds like. At all. You can’t believe that’s what they are talking about, can you?
Taking this at its worse, Kavanaugh and his friends gave the impression of having sex when they weren't. I'm not shocked.
 
The guy said he had a client....and then publicly accused a Federal judge of drugging and gang raping girls. I'm guessing he could have some fairly serious trouble with the bar if nothing comes of it. And could be the reason he pulled his Twitter account where he posted all this stuff.

All he has to do is say that his client has declined to pursue it further, and wishes to retain her anonymity. Personally I think we'll ultimately hear from the client, no doubt the timing of which will necessitate another delay. Not that this would be the plan, or anything like that.
 
What kind of teenage boys would do that sort of thing?
Conversely, what kind of teenage boys would get an underage girl drunk and as a group try to take advantage and sexually humiliate her in front of their friends. You ever hear of such a thing? It was reportedly a routine practice among the good young men at Georgetown prep at their drunken beach parties. Would that surprise you? For my part I would be a great deal more surprised if a significant fraction of priests were molesting children.
 
Conversely, what kind of teenage boys would get an underage girl drunk and as a group try to take advantage and sexually humiliate her in front of their friends. You ever hear of such a thing? It was reportedly a routine practice among the good young men at Georgetown prep at their drunken beach parties. Would that surprise you? For my part I would be a great deal more surprised if a significant fraction of priests were molesting children.

Actually, no, it wouldn't surprise me a bit.
 
Conversely, what kind of teenage boys would get an underage girl drunk and as a group try to take advantage and sexually humiliate her in front of their friends. You ever hear of such a thing? It was reportedly a routine practice among the good young men at Georgetown prep at their drunken beach parties. Would that surprise you? For my part I would be a great deal more surprised if a significant fraction of priests were molesting children.
No need to overthink it. It starts with the idea, the realization that they can play this drinking game and get a girl drunk. Then they do it. Then they realize they can bang her and do it. Then they do it again. And again. And again. And again.

I think the biggest problem here and the reason so many women signed on to vouch for Kavanaugh is that they don't want their present husbands, children, family to know what happened back then, consensual or not. Makes them feel dirty. They're Catholics after all. Same goes for the men. They'd all rather pretend it never happened.
 
Actually, no, it wouldn't surprise me a bit.
Me neither. The really perverse thing is that the number of actual victims would be very small compared to the number of abusers. My guess is that there are many, many more grown men who know the truth about what happened at Georgetown prep than there are women. But they can't talk about it now either because they were stoogified accomplices.
 
No need to overthink it. It starts with the idea, the realization that they can play this drinking game and get a girl drunk. Then they do it. Then they realize they can bang her and do it. Then they do it again. And again. And again. And again.

I think the biggest problem here and the reason so many women signed on to vouch for Kavanaugh is that they don't want their present husbands, children, family to know what happened back then, consensual or not. Makes them feel dirty. They're Catholics after all. Same goes for the men. They'd all rather pretend it never happened.


So now you are just fabricating your own stories? The actual one not juicy enough?
 
Conversely, what kind of teenage boys would get an underage girl drunk and as a group try to take advantage and sexually humiliate her in front of their friends. You ever hear of such a thing? It was reportedly a routine practice among the good young men at Georgetown prep at their drunken beach parties. Would that surprise you? For my part I would be a great deal more surprised if a significant fraction of priests were molesting children.
They sound very queer to me.
 
No need to overthink it. It starts with the idea, the realization that they can play this drinking game and get a girl drunk. Then they do it. Then they realize they can bang her and do it. Then they do it again. And again. And again. And again.

I think the biggest problem here and the reason so many women signed on to vouch for Kavanaugh is that they don't want their present husbands, children, family to know what happened back then, consensual or not. Makes them feel dirty. They're Catholics after all. Same goes for the men. They'd all rather pretend it never happened.

What in the hell is wrong with you?
 
No need to overthink it. It starts with the idea, the realization that they can play this drinking game and get a girl drunk. Then they do it. Then they realize they can bang her and do it. Then they do it again. And again. And again. And again.

I think the biggest problem here and the reason so many women signed on to vouch for Kavanaugh is that they don't want their present husbands, children, family to know what happened back then, consensual or not. Makes them feel dirty. They're Catholics after all. Same goes for the men. They'd all rather pretend it never happened.
:rolleyes:
 
The hired gun is Rachel Mitchell of Arizona:

Arizona prosecutor Rachel Mitchell emerges as GOP choice to question Kavanaugh and accuser at hearing

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powe...104e9616c21_story.html?utm_term=.9ac93ad20a0c
I don't think most Senators should ask questions during these hearings. Most of them use their opportunity to make a political commercial. They usually pontificate about something kind of related to make a political point and rarely even ask relevant questions. When they do, with exceptions of course, they are stupid questions. We could probably improve these hearings by quite a bit if this happened all the time. Just my opinion based on watching more than a few of these things.
 
I don't think most Senators should ask questions during these hearings. Most of them use their opportunity to make a political commercial. They usually pontificate about something kind of related to make a political point and rarely even ask relevant questions. When they do, with exceptions of course, they are stupid questions. We could probably improve these hearings by quite a bit if this happened all the time. Just my opinion based on watching more than a few of these things.
I think Senators should ask good questions during this hearing. No reason to expect the questions will be better with hired hacks. They hired a woman to do it in this case because the GOP doesn't want the optics of octagenarian men railroading a woman abused as a 16 year old.
 
I think Senators should ask good questions during this hearing. No reason to expect the questions will be better with hired hacks. They hired a woman to do it in this case because the GOP doesn't want the optics of octagenarian men railroading a woman abused as a 16 year old.

Well, yeah.

But Aloha is right. Politicians turn into preening morons at these things. It’s just camera time for these clowns.
 
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I think Senators should ask good questions during this hearing. No reason to expect the questions will be better with hired hacks. They hired a woman to do it in this case because the GOP doesn't want the optics of octagenarian men railroading a woman abused as a 16 year old.
Hired hacks? This has happened before. Look it up. Have you not watched these things? Some Senators actually are capable of asking pertinent questions, but some aren’t capable of that at all and pontificate for the cameras at best.
 
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Taking this at its worse, Kavanaugh and his friends gave the impression of having sex when they weren't. I'm not shocked.
You believe they weren’t having sex? And they chose Renate because she was popular? That’s adorable. I bet you get excited for the Easter Bunny every year too!
 
I think Senators should ask good questions during this hearing. No reason to expect the questions will be better with hired hacks. They hired a woman to do it in this case because the GOP doesn't want the optics of octagenarian men railroading a woman abused as a 16 year old.


Dems won't do it....because there are at least 2 on their side of the committee that want to run for President in 2020....and didn't feel they embarrassed themselves enough during their first circus act.
 
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I think it best for people to quit guessing what high school kids were doing 35 years ago based upon cryptic yearbook words.
I’m sure this is politically incorrect, but it appears that zeke thinks Renate was “easy,” “put out,” or something along those lines. Doesn’t seem to be believing Renate when she says she wasn’t like that. Is that right, zeke?
 
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I’m sure this is politically incorrect, but it appears that zeke thinks Renate was “easy,” “put out,” or something along those lines. Doesn’t seem to be believing Renate when she says she wasn’t like that. Is that right, zeke?
What are you talking about?
 
I think it best for people to quit guessing what high school kids were doing 35 years ago based upon cryptic yearbook words.
It’s not cryptic. It’s pretty plain. No idea whether they did what they said. As for Renate, that’s a pretty despicable thing to imply. I’m going by the other guy saying what Kavanaugh told him.
 
I think it best for people to quit guessing what high school kids were doing 35 years ago based upon cryptic yearbook words.
I have no idea what they actually did way back then, but the idea floated by some of those guys today that they were just memorializing "innocent dates" with a particular girl is laughable. They were clearly implying they all boned her. I think - without speaking for her, just deduction here - that is what Zeke is taking issue with. And rightfully so, although I'm sure this sort of thing has appeared in tens of thousands of yearbooks over the years.

But it can be a serious thing: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...k-renate-alumnius_us_5baa8e31e4b0f143d10e2639
 
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