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Well, you don't have to grope or assault them to get attention, you can simply interact with them, and communicate in other ways both verbal and not. It's not my fault you're socially dysfunctional and think that the best and only "move" is a sexual assault.

What are you a Republican?
Now you are really being crazy.

It isn't about getting "attention," interacting (whatever you think that vague word means), or communicating (Strother Martin/ Cool Hand Luke reference, maybe?). It's about how to tell if a female is willing or not, and what is that to be based on.

You haven't offered anything and don't tell us what a consent conversation should look like.
 
There is no way another confirmation would happen prior to the election.... Maybe in the lame duck.

And you jump to conclusions that Collins/Murkowski would ever vote for her. There is a reason she wasn't nominated the first time.....
The lame duck possibility would be fascinating.

1. It only happens if the Dems win back the Senate.
2. It's a strict party line vote. No Democrat votes for any nominee in the lame duck session. That means the GOP can only lose one vote. The in-fighting will be a spectacle to watch.
3. The Dems and analysts of all stripes will cry fifty kinds of foul, but the math will demand the GOP take the heat and do it if they can. This one will leave scars.
 
And they'll vote for Kavanaugh now? Her anti-abortion rep isn't THAT much stronger than BK's.

Their is any number of reasons BK could have been nominated over her. Only one of which is that she might have been harder to confirm.


I think Trump would have to revert back to Hardiman... I see no way she gets confirmed.
 
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After having read through most of this goat F***ing thread and topic, I observe two things.

Crap like this is why the native Americans went alone to the sweat lodge to find knowledge

My grand son's will be taught to secretly video every sexual encounter, if they EVER in their life want to make it past McDonald's drive through.

and then some commentary.
This is a war, turned conflagration by the left.

Men/ boys, them girls are the actual devil.

Girls, you have 12 months to accuse anyone of anything, +1 day pull up your panties and be a part of the real world.

And in ending, Maybe this is why the Bible teaches that you only get the milk AFTER buying the cow. This has probably been the downfall of many societies in human history.
 
Monday should be very interesting. One word. Optics. If this woman is able to testify and seem credible, you will have a fired up group of women voters watching a panel of Republican Male Senators grilling a woman about her testimony regarding an attempted rape allegation. This will happen six weeks before a very important election. In my opinion, Kavanaugh is toast.
 
To improve the post, delete your reference to the Duke case -- a corrupt prosecutor was involved in that one. Defeats part of your post.
Yeah, but the point was also part the profile of women who falsely accuse men. And I think that is still pertinent .
 
After having read through most of this goat F***ing thread and topic, I observe two things.

Crap like this is why the native Americans went alone to the sweat lodge to find knowledge

My grand son's will be taught to secretly video every sexual encounter, if they EVER in their life want to make it past McDonald's drive through.

and then some commentary.
This is a war, turned conflagration by the left.

Men/ boys, them girls are the actual devil.

Girls, you have 12 months to accuse anyone of anything, +1 day pull up your panties and be a part of the real world.

And in ending, Maybe this is why the Bible teaches that you only get the milk AFTER buying the cow. This has probably been the downfall of many societies in human history.
So ridiculous. If that’s what you got, you aren’t paying attention at all. Basically what is being said is don’t force yourself on women you don’t even know. Is that so hard?
 
Monday should be very interesting. One word. Optics. If this woman is able to testify and seem credible, you will have a fired up group of women voters watching a panel of Republican Male Senators grilling a woman about her testimony regarding an attempted rape allegation. This will happen six weeks before a very important election. In my opinion, Kavanaugh is toast.


Plus, when there is one, I am pretty sure there will be others.
 
So what's going to come of this?

Kavanagh has laid down the gauntlet that this never happened, and I guess claimed he wasn't even at said party.

They are both going to testify under oath? Something has to give here. What a circus.
How far have things changed from when you wrote this post just a few days ago? But that’s the news cycle these days.
 
On an individual level maybe, but they'd look pretty silly labeling her a misogynist or as someone who doesn't respect women's rights.
Nope, I’m talking about a group. There’s an awful lot of women that don’t support other women.
 

Feinstein was in a tough spot. Difficult to draw the line between the need to know and a victim who clearly did not want the media exposure.
 
So ridiculous. If that’s what you got, you aren’t paying attention at all. Basically what is being said is don’t force yourself on women you don’t even know. Is that so hard?


NO, that is only one side of this. I give you applause though for being pretty evenly balanced on this one, but I know you don't want my acceptance (and it wasn't meant as acceptance really (unless you think that is the proper word(which if you do that is what I meant))) for your comments..................... GOD I wish I would have video taped this to review our encounter 35+ years ago, NOW!!! aRRGGGHH.. See ya in court Zeke (but I'll be 85) or maybe not.
 
Girls, you have 12 months to accuse anyone of anything, +1 day pull up your panties and be a part of the real world.

And in ending, Maybe this is why the Bible teaches that you only get the milk AFTER buying the cow. This has probably been the downfall of many societies in human history.

Don't trivialise the matter FFS.

This woman suffered emotional trauma so she sought help to get over this. The timing of when she brought this up is only important in that a vermin like this can be prevented from sitting on the highest court in the land.
 
Now you are really being crazy.

It isn't about getting "attention," interacting (whatever you think that vague word means), or communicating (Strother Martin/ Cool Hand Luke reference, maybe?). It's about how to tell if a female is willing or not, and what is that to be based on.

You haven't offered anything and don't tell us what a consent conversation should look like.
Why do I have to tell you what a conversation with a women should look like? What a ridiculous but telling request. Hint: they're human, just like men, and most of them like sex too. If you don't have the inherent understanding of current social norms and.acceptable american mating rituals, I can't help you. But, you don't have to and shouldn't commit sexual assault or attempt rape to get laid. If you're clueless, just be patient, if you don't figure it when it's okay, she will tell you.

fwiw - It's just like a conversation with a man, but generally with more variety, thought, and far less beer and football.... You are a republican. lol ..
 
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Nope, I’m talking about a group. There’s an awful lot of women that don’t support other women.

Well then you would agree that the problem is with the individual woman, not women as a whole.

For example, if there was a girl in your sorority that hated every other girl in the house, the problem would be with the girl in question and her inability to support/ socialize with other women.

Do you believe Barrett hates all women? If so just say it, if not, wth are we even talking about here?
 
The lame duck possibility would be fascinating.

1. It only happens if the Dems win back the Senate.
2. It's a strict party line vote. No Democrat votes for any nominee in the lame duck session. That means the GOP can only lose one vote. The in-fighting will be a spectacle to watch.
3. The Dems and analysts of all stripes will cry fifty kinds of foul, but the math will demand the GOP take the heat and do it if they can. This one will leave scars.


Yeah....if the Dems were to win back the Senate it would be ugly....unless the nominee was more of a consensus choice, I guess.

I'm torn on how this plays re: midterms. I think killing the Kavanagh nomination could actually motivate some conservative voters that may be otherwise a bit apathetic. I'm not sure Joe Donnelly (or insert red-state Dem) wants an open seat still sitting there come Nov.

But I'm not sure that's the right read at this point.
 
So ridiculous. If that’s what you got, you aren’t paying attention at all. Basically what is being said is don’t force yourself on women you don’t even know. Is that so hard?
Nope. It's much broader than this: "don’t force yourself on women you don’t even know." The news stories of the past few months include accusations of things like stealing kisses. Forcing yourself sounds a million times worse and even you would admit the accusations were never limited to matters involving women the accused "don't even know."

No doubt the rules have changed in the past 12-18 months but I think men would comply if they knew what the rules are.
 
You know what’s interesting is that I read Mitch old Trump Kavanaugh mightn’t be more difficult to get through than many on the list. But for different reasons. Although it does make me wonder what, if anything else, is on some of the documents he didn’t want released.
 
An exception, I hope, would be that if she is willing to lie under oath, she not be believed for any fact ever and be jailed appropriately.
First of all, you seem to believe she will lie. If she lies, she will be penalized some way.
Also, what would happen if Kavanaugh lies, and I am assuming he is under oath?
What would be the penalty if K lies or has lied?
 
Why do I have to tell you what a conversation with a women should look like? What a ridiculous but telling request. Hint: they're human, just like men, and most of them like sex too. If you don't have the inherent understanding of current social norms and.acceptable american mating rituals, I can't help you. But, you don't have to and shouldn't commit sexual assault or attempt rape to get laid. If you're clueless, just be patient, if you don't figure it when it's okay, she will tell you.

fwiw - It's just like a conversation with a man, but generally with more variety, thought, and far less beer and football.... You are a republican. lol ..
I despise today's Republicans. You're drunk (probably) to say that.

But again, your post shows you don't know either what magic words need to be said to establish consent. Your observations that women are "human" and "just like men" and "most of them like sex too" makes you nothing more than a walking talking time bomb for your employer's HR department.

I'll leave it there and wait for your future posts about stuff you know about, like, basketball statistics and music history.
 
Nope. It's much broader than this: "don’t force yourself on women you don’t even know." The news stories of the past few months include accusations of things like stealing kisses. Forcing yourself sounds a million times worse and even you would admit the accusations were never limited to matters involving women the accused "don't even know."

No doubt the rules have changed in the past 12-18 months but I think men would comply if they knew what the rules are.
Ok....don’t steal a kiss. Don’t kiss a woman that doesn’t want to be kissed. Don’t touch a woman in any sort of sexual way unless she gives you permission. It’s really not that hard.mThat’s a little sweet and incredibly naive to think men would comply if they only knew the rules. Some men, of course not all.
 
Monday should be very interesting. One word. Optics. If this woman is able to testify and seem credible, you will have a fired up group of women voters watching a panel of Republican Male Senators grilling a woman about her testimony regarding an attempted rape allegation. This will happen six weeks before a very important election. In my opinion, Kavanaugh is toast.
Another possibility is that if indeed the party took place and K was proven to have been at the party. Since he has been insisting that he knew nothing about it, what would be the consequence?
 
I despise today's Republicans. You're drunk (probably) to say that.

But again, your post shows you don't know either what magic words need to be said to establish consent. Your observations that women are "human" and "just like men" and "most of them like sex too" makes you nothing more than a walking talking time bomb for your employer's HR department.

I'll leave it there and wait for your future posts about stuff you know about, like, basketball statistics and music history.
Disagree. 90 percent of the time, it’s a natural thing that anyone that knows how to read another person knows the right thing to do. And if you don’t, that’s when you ask. From everything TMP has said, I think he gets that. It really isn’t difficult. No doesn’t mean yes.
 
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Ok....don’t steal a kiss. Don’t kiss a woman that doesn’t want to be kissed. Don’t touch a woman in any sort of sexual way unless she gives you permission. It’s really not that hard.mThat’s a little sweet and incredibly naive to think men would comply if they only knew the rules. Some men, of course not all.
I'm basing that in part on what you said too -- 500 women with no problems, right? Instruction must work.
 
Disagree. 90 percent of the time, it’s a natural thing that anyone that knows how to read another person knows the right thing to do. And if you don’t, that’s when you ask. From everything TMP has said, I think he gets that. It really isn’t difficult. No doesn’t mean yes.
No is a word.
 
Another possibility is that if indeed the party took place and K was proven to have been at the party. Since he has been insisting that he knew nothing about it, what would be the consequence?

You recall every party you went to as a kid? From 17-mid 20s I was at a party of some sort 1-2x per week. I'm a good bit younger than these people, and I certainly can't recall most of them. That's why the denial of not even being there is odd to me.....of course I think that all came 2nd hand via Hatch.
 
I despise today's Republicans. You're drunk (probably) to say that.

But again, your post shows you don't know either what magic words need to be said to establish consent. Your observations that women are "human" and "just like men" and "most of them like sex too" makes you nothing more than a walking talking time bomb for your employer's HR department.

I'll leave it there and wait for your future posts about stuff you know about, like, basketball statistics and music history.

It is a Gordian knot to you .."magic words" lol ... that's funny. "Hi" works for me ... you'll have to find your own.

Try talking to a woman, and instead of thinking of them as a woman, think of them as a human. and without mentioning football, or beer, (those are very boring topics) maybe then you'll get the insight you're seeking and woefully lacking. Instead of fronting, and manipulating, try being genuine and honest, it works wonders. You can't sneak or force yourself in...
 
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Yeah....if the Dems were to win back the Senate it would be ugly....unless the nominee was more of a consensus choice, I guess.

I'm torn on how this plays re: midterms. I think killing the Kavanagh nomination could actually motivate some conservative voters that may be otherwise a bit apathetic. I'm not sure Joe Donnelly (or insert red-state Dem) wants an open seat still sitting there come Nov.

But I'm not sure that's the right read at this point.
The political calculus on this is so complicated, I'm not sure there is a right read. Does Donnelly want the seat to not be open on Election Day? Probably. But does he also not want to have to vote one way or the other to make that happen? Certainly. Do the Repubs want to push through a nomination with baggage? No. Do they want to give voters a chance to respond to a failed nomination? Probably not really. It's lose-lose all around for both sides. Everyone is playing with political fire on this one.

Could be Monday is just another show of partisan bickering that doesn't resolve anything. But if Monday results in fireworks, this suddenly goes from one of the most contentious midterm campaigns in history to something much, much bigger.
 
You recall every party you went to as a kid? From 17-mid 20s I was at a party of some sort 1-2x per week. I'm a good bit younger than these people, and I certainly can't recall most of them. That's why the denial of not even being there is odd to me.....of course I think that all came 2nd hand via Hatch.
As a great man once said, when accused of sexual assault or other misdeeds by women, you've got to "deny, deny, deny,"
 
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The political calculus on this is so complicated, I'm not sure there is a right read. Does Donnelly want the seat to not be open on Election Day? Probably. But does he also not want to have to vote one way or the other to make that happen? Certainly. Do the Repubs want to push through a nomination with baggage? No. Do they want to give voters a chance to respond to a failed nomination? Probably not really. It's lose-lose all around for both sides. Everyone is playing with political fire on this one.

Could be Monday is just another show of partisan bickering that doesn't resolve anything. But if Monday results in fireworks, this suddenly goes from one of the most contentious midterm campaigns in history to something much, much bigger.


The political shops around DC are having some heated discussions this evening, for sure.
 
It is a Gordian knot to you .."magic words" lol ... that's funny. "Hi" works for me ... you'll have n find your own.

Try talking to a woman, and instead of thinking of them as a woman, think of them as a human. and without mentioning football, or beer, (those are very boring topics) maybe then you'll get the insight you're seeking and woefully lacking. Instead of fronting, and manipulating, try being genuine and honest, it works wonders. You can't sneak or force yourself in...
You need to go back to discussing the history of music in the 16th century.

Your suggestions are no different than saying that a man can "read" a woman's thoughts by how she acts ("you'll get the insight you're seeking"). Trying to "read" a woman's thoughts is absolutely dangerous in today's world in the absence of her verbal confirmation, and God knows how you'd ever prove she verbally consented if she denies it 35 days or 35 years later.

Never thought I'd see a PC post from you, but this subject challenges all of us so it's OK.
 
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You need to go back to discussing the history of music in the 16th century.

Your suggestions are no different than saying that a man can "read" a woman's thoughts by how she acts ("you'll get the insight you're seeking"). Trying to "read" a woman's thoughts is absolutely dangerous in today's world in the absence of her verbal confirmation, and God knows how you'd ever prove she verbally consented if she denies it 35 days or 35 years later.

Never thought I'd see a PC post from you, but this subject challenges all of us so it's OK.
You don't know the first thing about TMP if you think he's into 16th century music. :D:D:D
 
I despise today's Republicans. You're drunk (probably) to say that.

But again, your post shows you don't know either what magic words need to be said to establish consent. Your observations that women are "human" and "just like men" and "most of them like sex too" makes you nothing more than a walking talking time bomb for your employer's HR department.

I'll leave it there and wait for your future posts about stuff you know about, like, basketball statistics and music history.

It is a Gordian knot to you .."magic words" lol ... that's funny. "Hi" works for me ... you'll have to find your own.

Try talking to a woman, and instead of thinking of them as a woman, think of them as a human. and without mentioning football, or beer, (those are very boring topics) maybe then you'll get the insight you're seeking and woefully lacking. Instead of fronting, and manipulating, try being genuine and honest, it works wonders. You can't sneak or force yourself in...
Guys can talk to me about football and beer, but I’m weird that way.
 
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