An exception, I hope, would be that if she is willing to lie under oath, she not be believed for any fact ever and be jailed appropriately.
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Women did that to me . . .
I have no problem with Kavanaugh having his chance to respond and I hope his response will be a positive for his nomination AND the #metoo movement. Everyone involved needs to put on their big boy and big girl pants and examine this with maturity and thoughtfulness. There's plenty of room for two sides to this story and for those two sides to not scuttle Kavanaugh's nomination while still having a mature conversation about the topic. I'm glad to see that both sides are willing to testify on the matter and hold out hope it will prove productive.
That may be the case. What comes next will obviously determine that. Is she credible? Is he? Is there grey area that emerges between their positions? If so, how do Kavanaugh and Senators on both sides of the aisle respond to it? To me, something positive starts by everyone acknowledging what this actually is rather than what they would like to frame it to be.
Bull, there’s no room here. He says he wasn’t even at the party and she says he tried to rape her. Maybe by Monday her memory will be refreashed and she remember where she was, how she got there and how she got home.
Or, he'll remember and apologize profusely.
Barring some sort of corroboration, I don't know what will happen. She'll certainly have a tearful story, he'll stand firm. The only way this has a suitable ending is if someone else comes forward with memory or knowledge of the event in question, or as alluded to earlier, other women come forward with similar tales.
Absent that we're left with two teenagers disagreeing on what, if anything, happened 35 years ago. The runner may win ties in baseball, but I think Kavanaugh loses this one in today's climate. I don't see how he'll be confirmed. And it'll go down as another big Tat in the never ending Tit for Tat political pig sty.
Why put a burden squareley on her? Do you have any evidence? If you do, this will be a great time to make a name for yourself!
Following your logic, somebody may appear to point finger and K, and say: "That was him!"
Yeah, ain’t happening. The judiciary committee was embarrassing last week. Monday will be that on steroids.
Oh, stop being borderline crazy. There can't be "consent" in today's world without a conversation, and yet you don't offer any notion of what you think a consent conversation would look like. Looks like you don't have any better idea of this than anyone else.
She said only 3 in room and 3rd person said it never happen. She will testify in tears next week and Kavanaugh will say it didn’t happen. She will win in today’s environment and Feinstein wins the game.
On to the next game against Barrett. The dems’ playbook will have to be different with her.
Running out of time if you want to nominate someone else
50 days out from election day
It's radioactive, Zeke. They don't know what is permissible to say or do. Anything they say will be attacked.
*eye-roll* plus *facepalm* ..
If you don't know if you can touch a woman, don't.. Why is that so hard to understand?
I too sense this is a game of water balloons filled with pig shit. I don't know which side ends up coming out the other side less shit covered, but they'll be few clean jerseys.
My opinion is that he's still likely to be confirmed....I think the party players will decide to go to the mat on this.
Someone like Joe Donnelly is praying nightly that Kavanaugh quietly withdraws his nomination.
If you are up on the social aspect of teenagers, as I think you are, you will agree with me that teenage girls are every bit as aggressive, maybe even more so, than the average teenage boy these days. We have lived it, and are living it right now. I can assure you that is our experience, and absolutely do not feel it is the boys responsibility solely to make sure the girls don’t drink too much or consent. It is both of their responsibilities. Would it be polite and appropriate? Yes
Now, that is a sexist comment, no matter how andronymous or indeterminate the actual Lucy
is.
Any females lining up to attack he/she?
Because in this country, you are innocent until proven guilty. Really easy.
If we are going to cut bait with Kavanaugh it needs to be FAST. I actually prefer Barrett so not the worst thing in the world if we can get her through under the wire.
I'm racking my brain to think what disgusting tactics the Dem's would resort to with her, but I'm sure they'll think of something.
Probably get one of her students to claim Barrett chastised her for getting an abortion.
Because they sometimes touch me first without saying a word or getting my consent. Easy for me to understand how there could be confusion many years ago.
Wow. This isn't about something you know about, is it, like new age basketball statistics to which I defer to your expertise.
Why are you refusing to say what you think a consent conversation would look like? Your refusal to answer is starting to look embarrassing.
There is no way another confirmation would happen prior to the election.... Maybe in the lame duck.
And you jump to conclusions that Collins/Murkowski would ever vote for her. There is a reason she wasn't nominated the first time.....
Well, you don't have to grope or assault them to get attention, you can simply interact with them, and communicate in other ways both verbal and not. It's not my fault you're socially dysfunctional and think that the best and only "move" is a sexual assault.
What are you a Republican?
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This is not a criminal case, it's a decision about whether Brett Kavanaugh should be a Supreme Court Justice-it's not a trial. I don't know what to believe about him but I doubt that I will know any more next week after the accuser testifies as there seems to be no common facts about their respective stories. It's very unfortunate if Snow doesn't have her facts straight as Kavanaugh has a wife, two daughters and potential life time job on the Supreme Court at stake. It would seem strange to me if she is making this up but I imagine no matter what is said the people who post their positions here will likely have the same opinion about Kavanaugh next Monday night-nothing will change.
I would like that. I hope you can see that I really am attempting to see every side on this. And I fully admit I don’t always do that.
That seems like an awful lot of work. Thank god for marriage and redtube.
And they'll vote for Kavanaugh now? Her anti-abortion rep isn't THAT much stronger than BK's.
Their is any number of reasons BK could have been nominated over her. Only one of which is that she might have been harder to confirm.
I’m all for that. At this point, all I know is that I want a hearing with them both back. I’d love it if it wasn’t even the senators that did the questioning, but people with no skin in the game. I know, pipe dream.
To improve the post, delete your reference to the Duke case -- a corrupt prosecutor was involved in that one. Defeats part of your post.
Whaaat? To be jailed for lying under oath?
You should first do some research on the willingness of prosecutors to bring charges for perjury. Probably would be drastically surprised.
If they are blackout is a good indication, if they are falling, slurring , etc. There actually is an awful lot of education on this, at least at IU. I’m not naive enough to think it helps in every situation, but in my five years dealing now with 500 girls, none of them have had an issue. It’s not just with the fraternities and sororities either, it’s also in some of the freshman class intro week info. Think that’s a really good step.
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