Just when you thought Democrats could not become more stupid and irrelevant . . .

[CO. Hoosier]

so we shouldn’t find minimum environmental health standards that includes poor communities because those communities also have large amounts of gun violence? Not following your argument here unless you’re just trying to bash a party, which I’m happy to help do. Both have strong suits but both also suck when taken as a whole. Neither is really interested in building for the future or balancing a damn budget. They prefer the culture war crap this board eats up. Nom f*cking nom. Lol

because government by racial pandering isnt a good way to make policy. Higher prices for fossil fuels is a clear Democrat objective—supposedly to fight AGW. Yet the poor and minority communities are disproportionately impacted by that and the Democrats don’t give a damn. And you wanna talk about electric car subsidies and how many minorities can take advantage of that?

Maybe if the Democrats would understand that minorities are people Instead of a political interest group, I’d look at this differently. Meanwhile, the minority communities are inundated with fentanyl , bullets, and violence and Garland‘s DOJ gives us crickets.

 

[Univee2]

because government by racial pandering isnt a good way to make policy. Higher prices for fossil fuels is a clear Democrat objective—supposedly to fight AGW. Yet the poor and minority communities are disproportionately impacted by that and the Democrats don’t give a damn. And you wanna talk about electric car subsidies and how many minorities can take advantage of that?

Maybe if the Democrats would understand that minorities are people Instead of a political interest group, I’d look at this differently. Meanwhile, the minority communities are inundated with fentanyl , bullets, and violence and Garland‘s DOJ gives us crickets.

Yeah, and just try to get some kids out of crapshit inner city schools and into a charter school . . .

 

[CO. Hoosier]

More than likely they are selling fentanyl to suburban white folks.

Only because there are more whites. The per-capita use in the minority communities is skyrocketing and OD deaths has passed whites.

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

I thought Wall Street caused the Flint problem.

Big water industrial complex.

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

Yeah, and just try to get some kids out of crapshit inner city schools and into a charter school . . .

So, tell us the difference between inner city public and charter schools.

 

[CO. Hoosier]

Yeah, and just try to get some kids out of crapshit inner city schools and into a charter school . . .

Betsy DeVos and Trump had that right. Another thing that Biden screwed up.

As a side note, the Colorado Democrats at the state level are supportive of charters and autonomous schools despite the efforts of the teacher union lobby. So there are some positives with Democrats, but none of that in the Biden Administration.

 

[Spartans9312]

Only because there are more whites. The per-capita use in the minority communities is skyrocketing and OD deaths has passed whites.

I’m not surprised by your statement but it would be distinct change from years past.

 

[CO. Hoosier]

I’m not surprised by your statement but it would be distinct change from years past.

I posted the graph in the OP. Yeah, it’s a change.

 

[bub-rub]

because government by racial pandering isnt a good way to make policy. Higher prices for fossil fuels is a clear Democrat objective—supposedly to fight AGW. Yet the poor and minority communities are disproportionately impacted by that and the Democrats don’t give a damn. And you wanna talk about electric car subsidies and how many minorities can take advantage of that?

Maybe if the Democrats would understand that minorities are people Instead of a political interest group, I’d look at this differently. Meanwhile, the minority communities are inundated with fentanyl , bullets, and violence and Garland‘s DOJ gives us crickets.

you went from environmental issues affecting poor kids directly to dems and gas prices. Why?

 

[CO. Hoosier]

you went from environmental issues affecting poor kids directly to dems and gas prices. Why?

Two sides of the same coin. On the one hand the dems want to discourage fossil fuel use to halt AGW (which is simply window dressing) without regard to the effect on minority people of modest means, on the other hand they focus special environmental enforcement by creating yet another victim class of minority people of modest means with more useless window dressing.

Maybe you think this is good governance,but I don’t. The Biden administration has created chaos in every important area of government.

 

[ribbont]

it wasn't Dems that caused the problem in Flint, it was Pubs.

Dems simply got stuck with how to fix the Pub's clusterfk.

as for other areas with lead poisoning issues, are they just major cities, or because they are major cities, or is it a matter of the age of the homes, and infrastructure, and/or water source, that's actually the issue?

and is the cost of fixing the issue something that can be handled on a municipal level, or does it require funding on a greater scale.

the Flint problem was obviously caused by Pubs, deliberately or not.

but beyond Flint, is either party really to blame? if so, which party and why.

and is either party holding up the fixing of the issue. if so, which party and why.

besides you, how many posters here and elsewhere, are here or there only to demonize one party and exonerate the other.

those individuals, ARE the problem.

Flint was mainly a pub issue. Remember the dem mayor Walling drinking the tap water on TV trying to show how safe it was?

But the real issue was decades of neglect in the pipeline infrastructure, mainly by dems. But the pubs didn't care to fix it either.

As far as blaming one party, I am just pointing out that dems have controlled most of the major metros for decades. Pubs have been govs and had legislatures and have ignored as well. But it's the dems who are the mayors.

 

[mushroomgod_1]

They do.

The Attorney General of the United States launched a new Office of Environmental Justice. Included in the statement creating this DOJ effort is:

“Although violations of our environmental laws can happen anywhere, communities of color, indigenous communities, and low-income communities often bear the brunt of the harm caused by environmental crime, pollution, and climate change,” said Attorney General Garland. “For far too long, these communities have faced barriers to accessing the justice they deserve. The Office of Environmental Justice will serve as the central hub for our efforts to advance our comprehensive environmental justice enforcement strategy. We will prioritize the cases that will have the greatest impact on the communities most overburdened by environmental harm.”​

​

Think about this for a moment. We have robust environmental laws. We have robust federal, state, and local enforcement. We even have authorized private enforcement of which various advocacy groups take full advantage, often to a fault. So what exactly is the law enforcement or governmental purpose of this effort? I have no clue. Except to say its more irrelevant BS from an increasingly obvious incompetent administration. Harmful pollution is ubiquitous. Consistent enforcement and remediation protects all of us.

But if Attorney General Garland is convinced about creating another bureaucracy centered on minorities I have a suggestion. How about an Office of Educational Justice. The education we provide black youngsters in this country is a national disgrace. It became worse during the pandemic as democratic-leaning teacher groups kept schools shut down, which we now know was overdone and hurt the education of minority kids the most. But we won't hear a peep about educational justice from Democrats because democrats, particularly inner-city black Democrats, are responsible for our horrible educational inequality.

How about an office of Gun Justice. The body count of black youngsters in the United States is another national disgrace. The dead young black bodies are the result of other black young men, who themselves will probably be dead or in jail soon. The largest cause of death of black young men is homicide. Attorney General Garland, where are you on this?

How about an office of Drug Abuse Justice? Black overdose deaths are rocketing upward and have now passed whites.

This isn't to say a clean environment isn't important. But good grief, a bad environment won't even make the list of things that specifically harm blacks in this country.

The Biden Administration truly is stupid and irrelevant in so many ways.

Justice Department Launches Comprehensive Environmental Justice Strategy

Attorney General Merrick B. Garland was joined by EPA Administrator Michael S. Regan today in announcing a series of actions to secure environmental justice for all Americans.

www.justice.gov

Stupid, no doubt. But hardly irrelevant, unfortunately. They are a clear and present danger.

 

[mrhighlife]

All politicians, R or D, are equal in there inaction to helping the poor. Ds make statements of grandeur and posturing while in reality not doing shit. Rs just don't do shit. I guess the Rs get points for being honest?

"Senate Leader: All fellow members of the Roman senate hear me. Shall we continue to build palace after palace for the rich? Or shall we aspire to a more noble purpose and build decent housing for the poor? How does the senate vote?
Entire Senate : **** THE POOR!" - History of the World Part 1

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

Another conservative boogeyman thread.
It's got to be crowded under the GOP bed.

 

[iuwclurker]

Another conservative boogeyman thread.
It's got to be crowded under the GOP bed.

Freedum of speech

 

[TommyCracker]

They do.

The Attorney General of the United States launched a new Office of Environmental Justice. Included in the statement creating this DOJ effort is:

“Although violations of our environmental laws can happen anywhere, communities of color, indigenous communities, and low-income communities often bear the brunt of the harm caused by environmental crime, pollution, and climate change,” said Attorney General Garland. “For far too long, these communities have faced barriers to accessing the justice they deserve. The Office of Environmental Justice will serve as the central hub for our efforts to advance our comprehensive environmental justice enforcement strategy. We will prioritize the cases that will have the greatest impact on the communities most overburdened by environmental harm.”​

​

Think about this for a moment. We have robust environmental laws. We have robust federal, state, and local enforcement. We even have authorized private enforcement of which various advocacy groups take full advantage, often to a fault. So what exactly is the law enforcement or governmental purpose of this effort? I have no clue. Except to say its more irrelevant BS from an increasingly obvious incompetent administration. Harmful pollution is ubiquitous. Consistent enforcement and remediation protects all of us.

But if Attorney General Garland is convinced about creating another bureaucracy centered on minorities I have a suggestion. How about an Office of Educational Justice. The education we provide black youngsters in this country is a national disgrace. It became worse during the pandemic as democratic-leaning teacher groups kept schools shut down, which we now know was overdone and hurt the education of minority kids the most. But we won't hear a peep about educational justice from Democrats because democrats, particularly inner-city black Democrats, are responsible for our horrible educational inequality.

How about an office of Gun Justice. The body count of black youngsters in the United States is another national disgrace. The dead young black bodies are the result of other black young men, who themselves will probably be dead or in jail soon. The largest cause of death of black young men is homicide. Attorney General Garland, where are you on this?

How about an office of Drug Abuse Justice? Black overdose deaths are rocketing upward and have now passed whites.

This isn't to say a clean environment isn't important. But good grief, a bad environment won't even make the list of things that specifically harm blacks in this country.

The Biden Administration truly is stupid and irrelevant in so many ways.

Justice Department Launches Comprehensive Environmental Justice Strategy

Attorney General Merrick B. Garland was joined by EPA Administrator Michael S. Regan today in announcing a series of actions to secure environmental justice for all Americans.

www.justice.gov

Here's Oliver explaining what this seems to be about.



Points being, industrial zoning has historically been set up in black and brown neighborhoods, which has polluted the neighborhood at an exponentially higher rate than white neighborhoods while also depressing property values because, who wants to buy property right next to a factory belching filth into your breathing air while turning the ground toxic?

The historical story is redlining made it illegal for a black family to get a loan to buy property in a white neighborhood but then the property they were allowed to buy would be zoned for industry, basically ruining the property.

Simple pollution is a reason why life spans are drastically different, why minorities get sick more and since they don't have a pot to piss in, healthcare is severely lacking.

That's quite the pinch, don't you agree?

Oliver goes over a couple current examples. One in Texas where a shingle company has basically a mountain of old roof shingles, literally an old shingle mountain blocking views and polluting the air (they say your eyes water when they go outside from them) all because industrial regulations are not synced with basic residential needs.

Then there's an example of the Visalia pipeline in Memphis. It has a straight shot from point A to B, but it gets diverted south and over to come back up to point B. Why you ask? Because it would have to go through a white neighborhood (Germantown) so instead, it diverts it, turns south and you guessed it....goes right through the poor minority neighborhood instead.

Then a story in Hammond, IN (I think) where the ground is so toxic from lead it's like 10,000 times the legal limit...and residents weren't told. After being busted, they put up signs for kids to not play in the dirt and grass. Gee thanks. That should work.

So to make a short story long...my guess is this is a federal justice group to look out for environmental injustices like these examples since it's not like the poor can afford to really fight these things....so the fed will step in.

Again, just my POV. Could be wrong.

 

[CO. Hoosier]

Points being, industrial zoning has historically been set up in black and brown neighborhoods,

That's an ignorant statement.

Historically, Industrial facilities were set up where there was access to water and rail. During that time, there were not many back and brown neighborhoods. The great migration happened years later. Factory workers were all white and people lived near the facories.

When Bethleham Steel built a large integrated steel mill in Northern Indiana in the 70's, it put it right in the middle of high end white residences, Ogden Dunes and Dune acres. Why? Water and rail. As a side note, that mill provided the imputus for the new Indiana Dunes Ntional Park.

 

[mrhighlife]

Here's Oliver explaining what this seems to be about.

View embedded media

Points being, industrial zoning has historically been set up in black and brown neighborhoods, which has polluted the neighborhood at an exponentially higher rate than white neighborhoods while also depressing property values because, who wants to buy property right next to a factory belching filth into your breathing air while turning the ground toxic?

The historical story is redlining made it illegal for a black family to get a loan to buy property in a white neighborhood but then the property they were allowed to buy would be zoned for industry, basically ruining the property.

Simple pollution is a reason why life spans are drastically different, why minorities get sick more and since they don't have a pot to piss in, healthcare is severely lacking.

That's quite the pinch, don't you agree?

Oliver goes over a couple current examples. One in Texas where a shingle company has basically a mountain of old roof shingles, literally an old shingle mountain blocking views and polluting the air (they say your eyes water when they go outside from them) all because industrial regulations are not synced with basic residential needs.

Then there's an example of the Visalia pipeline in Memphis. It has a straight shot from point A to B, but it gets diverted south and over to come back up to point B. Why you ask? Because it would have to go through a white neighborhood (Germantown) so instead, it diverts it, turns south and you guessed it....goes right through the poor minority neighborhood instead.

Then a story in Hammond, IN (I think) where the ground is so toxic from lead it's like 10,000 times the legal limit...and residents weren't told. After being busted, they put up signs for kids to not play in the dirt and grass. Gee thanks. That should work.

So to make a short story long...my guess is this is a federal justice group to look out for environmental injustices like these examples since it's not like the poor can afford to really fight these things....so the fed will step in.

Again, just my POV. Could be wrong.

Could just be a poor thing. Not necessarily a race thing. Although the two things go hand and hand in many situation.

Evansville Indiana area would be the example. Majority poor white. Something like 7 coal fire power plants in the area and some of the worst air quality in the country.

 

[TDHoosier]

They do.

The Attorney General of the United States launched a new Office of Environmental Justice. Included in the statement creating this DOJ effort is:

“Although violations of our environmental laws can happen anywhere, communities of color, indigenous communities, and low-income communities often bear the brunt of the harm caused by environmental crime, pollution, and climate change,” said Attorney General Garland. “For far too long, these communities have faced barriers to accessing the justice they deserve. The Office of Environmental Justice will serve as the central hub for our efforts to advance our comprehensive environmental justice enforcement strategy. We will prioritize the cases that will have the greatest impact on the communities most overburdened by environmental harm.”​

​

Think about this for a moment. We have robust environmental laws. We have robust federal, state, and local enforcement. We even have authorized private enforcement of which various advocacy groups take full advantage, often to a fault. So what exactly is the law enforcement or governmental purpose of this effort? I have no clue. Except to say its more irrelevant BS from an increasingly obvious incompetent administration. Harmful pollution is ubiquitous. Consistent enforcement and remediation protects all of us.

But if Attorney General Garland is convinced about creating another bureaucracy centered on minorities I have a suggestion. How about an Office of Educational Justice. The education we provide black youngsters in this country is a national disgrace. It became worse during the pandemic as democratic-leaning teacher groups kept schools shut down, which we now know was overdone and hurt the education of minority kids the most. But we won't hear a peep about educational justice from Democrats because democrats, particularly inner-city black Democrats, are responsible for our horrible educational inequality.

How about an office of Gun Justice. The body count of black youngsters in the United States is another national disgrace. The dead young black bodies are the result of other black young men, who themselves will probably be dead or in jail soon. The largest cause of death of black young men is homicide. Attorney General Garland, where are you on this?

How about an office of Drug Abuse Justice? Black overdose deaths are rocketing upward and have now passed whites.

This isn't to say a clean environment isn't important. But good grief, a bad environment won't even make the list of things that specifically harm blacks in this country.

The Biden Administration truly is stupid and irrelevant in so many ways.

Justice Department Launches Comprehensive Environmental Justice Strategy

Attorney General Merrick B. Garland was joined by EPA Administrator Michael S. Regan today in announcing a series of actions to secure environmental justice for all Americans.

www.justice.gov

The issues you speak of have been going on for decades and through several democratic Presidents and nothing has been done about it. Just seems to me that if it were a priority to fix these things it would have already been done. The crime in black communities as well as the lack of education is criminal in itself, but they are issues that are allowed to linger? Give those in poverty just enough to survive and then scare them in to thinking it will be taken away.

It's like the statement one of my 70+ year old poker friends told me long ago. When you find them dumb, leave them dumb.

 

[ribbont]

Here's Oliver explaining what this seems to be about.

View embedded media

Points being, industrial zoning has historically been set up in black and brown neighborhoods, which has polluted the neighborhood at an exponentially higher rate than white neighborhoods while also depressing property values because, who wants to buy property right next to a factory belching filth into your breathing air while turning the ground toxic?

The historical story is redlining made it illegal for a black family to get a loan to buy property in a white neighborhood but then the property they were allowed to buy would be zoned for industry, basically ruining the property.

Simple pollution is a reason why life spans are drastically different, why minorities get sick more and since they don't have a pot to piss in, healthcare is severely lacking.

That's quite the pinch, don't you agree?

Oliver goes over a couple current examples. One in Texas where a shingle company has basically a mountain of old roof shingles, literally an old shingle mountain blocking views and polluting the air (they say your eyes water when they go outside from them) all because industrial regulations are not synced with basic residential needs.

Then there's an example of the Visalia pipeline in Memphis. It has a straight shot from point A to B, but it gets diverted south and over to come back up to point B. Why you ask? Because it would have to go through a white neighborhood (Germantown) so instead, it diverts it, turns south and you guessed it....goes right through the poor minority neighborhood instead.

Then a story in Hammond, IN (I think) where the ground is so toxic from lead it's like 10,000 times the legal limit...and residents weren't told. After being busted, they put up signs for kids to not play in the dirt and grass. Gee thanks. That should work.

So to make a short story long...my guess is this is a federal justice group to look out for environmental injustices like these examples since it's not like the poor can afford to really fight these things....so the fed will step in.

Again, just my POV. Could be wrong.

My issue with the new agency is the fact all the issues you wrote about (redlining, industrial locating, logistics, etc) have been an issue for 40 years in major metro areas mainly controlled by democrats. And there are other agencies who have laws in place to enforce.

Now I don't think the pubs would have been any better but I do wonder why now? Why didn't Biden do it last year? Or Obama during his years? Or Clinton? Never heard it being an issue from Pelosi , Schumer, Reid, or any other dem leader. So why now 6 months before midterms?

 

[TommyCracker]

Could just be a poor thing. Not necessarily a race thing. Although the two things go hand and hand in many situation.

Evansville Indiana area would be the example. Majority poor white. Something like 7 coal fire power plants in the area and some of the worst air quality in the country.

Yes, definitely a poor thing and not a pure evil, racist black thing....except for that redlining thing.

Basic story, poor people don't have the funds to defend themselves from rich people so they tend to be the ones eating the most shit.

I believe this committee is to have some federal leverage when things like diverting the pipeline from a rich neighborhood to a poor one when the most effective way is to go through the rich neighborhood.

So yes, poor vs rich. Unfortunately that impacts a higher majority of black and brown communities.

 

[TommyCracker]

That's an ignorant statement.

Historically, Industrial facilities were set up where there was access to water and rail. During that time, there were not many back and brown neighborhoods. The great migration happened years later. Factory workers were all white and people lived near the facories.

When Bethleham Steel built a large integrated steel mill in Northern Indiana in the 70's, it put it right in the middle of high end white residences, Ogden Dunes and Dune acres. Why? Water and rail. As a side note, that mill provided the imputus for the new Indiana Dunes Ntional Park.

Is it?

Again redlining prevented the sale of homes to minorities. They were allowed to buy homes that were the leftover spots that no one wanted....the wrong side of the tracks so to speak next to the industrial zoned property.

You're being extremely obtuse if you think otherwise.

The health stats are just one of many data points.

Just look at any city you visit.

Problem is it's still going on (like the Memphis pipeline) and it's seen as a 'that's just how it is' attitude.

Sounds like the fed is going to start getting involved to try to get ahead of more Flints.

 

[CO. Hoosier]

Basic story, poor people don't have the funds to defend themselves from rich people so they tend to be the ones eating the most shit.

Not everything is about race. And a Department of Justice which looks for race issues in places where it doesn’t exist will just make it up. A superfund site is a superfund site. Why should race make a difference? If an oil refinery has seepage issues, those must be addressed. That’s what we do now. If people live near the seep are a minority, I fail to see what difference it makes. The point about housing discrimination is a good one, and I have posted in favor of addressing that with effective subsidized projects. But that has nothing to do with the DOJ minority pollution office. Garland has shown himself to be a hack instead of a serious attorney general. This is one more example.

 

[TommyCracker]

My issue with the new agency is the fact all the issues you wrote about (redlining, industrial locating, logistics, etc) have been an issue for 40 years in major metro areas mainly controlled by democrats. And there are other agencies who have laws in place to enforce.

Now I don't think the pubs would have been any better but I do wonder why now? Why didn't Biden do it last year? Or Obama during his years? Or Clinton? Never heard it being an issue from Pelosi , Schumer, Reid, or any other dem leader. So why now 6 months before midterms?

No doubt on the timing, absolutely no doubt.

It's a big, passionate issue for black and brown communities so I'm sure it's on Biden's checklist to get to (since it was Clyburn and So Carolina that was the air that Biden rose on in the primaries) so yeah, maybe it's just red meat but most dems believe in this cause, so we see it as a good and fair thing.

We'll see if it does anything.

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

The issues you speak of have been going on for decades and through several democratic Presidents and nothing has been done about it. Just seems to me that if it were a priority to fix these things it would have already been done. The crime in black communities as well as the lack of education is criminal in itself, but they are issues that are allowed to linger? Give those in poverty just enough to survive and then scare them in to thinking it will be taken away.

It's like the statement one of my 70+ year old poker friends told me long ago. When you find them dumb, leave them dumb.

Or, my old basketball coach who said when you got them down, step on their necks and don't let up.

 

[outside shooter]

If you are Rumpke and need a spot for a new landfill, you buy the cheapest parcel of land that can pass through the application process (meet environmental requirements, for example).

Ditto if you want to set up a new site for any polluting business.

The cheapest parcels of land tend to be those where, if anybody lives there, they are poor.

So the association is pretty much built-in. Polluters buy cheap places to pollute, and their pollution that then results thus disproportionately affects the poor who were there all along.

Not exactly rocket science. I am not arguing what is the best way to get out of that cycle, but to not recognize its existence is pretty silly.

 

[ribbont]

No doubt on the timing, absolutely no doubt.

It's a big, passionate issue for black and brown communities so I'm sure it's on Biden's checklist to get to (since it was Clyburn and So Carolina that was the air that Biden rose on in the primaries) so yeah, maybe it's just red meat but most dems believe in this cause, so we see it as a good and fair thing.

We'll see if it does anything.

But what is it going to do? The DOJ is not a legislative body, so no laws will be passed. Punish someone? Who? Mayors and councils that approved the plans? Doubt it. Betting the punished will be big corporations to levy fines.

So the result will be more political pats on the back, corporations then relocating to another state, and the poor continue to get poorer. And onto the next election!

 

[ribbont]

If you are Rumpke and need a spot for a new landfill, you buy the cheapest parcel of land that can pass through the application process (meet environmental requirements, for example).

Ditto if you want to set up a new site for any polluting business.

The cheapest parcels of land tend to be those where, if anybody lives there, they are poor.

So the association is pretty much built-in. Polluters buy cheap places to pollute, and their pollution that then results thus disproportionately affects the poor who were there all along.

Not exactly rocket science. I am not arguing what is the best way to get out of that cycle, but to not recognize its existence is pretty silly.

And who approves that land purchase?

 

[TommyCracker]

Not everything is about race. And a Department of Justice which looks for race issues in places where it doesn’t exist will just make it up. A superfund site is a superfund site. Why should race make a difference? If an oil refinery has seepage issues, those must be addressed. That’s what we do now. If people live near the seep are a minority, I fail to see what difference it makes. The point about housing discrimination is a good one, and I have posted in favor of addressing that with effective subsidized projects. But that has nothing to do with the DOJ minority pollution office. Garland has shown himself to be a hack instead of a serious attorney general. This is one more example.

I think it's more about the circle of poverty and again, who tends to have to eat the most shit.

I can't buy in the nice neighborhood because I bring property values down, and for a while that was enforced (there are still active covenant laws from the 50's still technically in place).

Now my options to raise my family is on the wrong side of the tracks. It's polluted, the schools are below standards, there's very little investment in the community, the property values stagnate because who wants to buy a home in that area?

The most lucrative industry is probably dealing.

Life cycles are way shorter (I believe like 15-20 years) and illness is way higher in these communities.

How do you break the cycle?

Lowering the price of health care? Cleaning up the industrial pollution along with the community? Pay teachers more in struggling schools as an incentive?

It's been tried....regentrification projects and opportunity zone projects but those effects seemed to be more about taking property away and displacing.

So I don't know. If I did I'd have a religion about me.

 

[MyTeamIsOnTheFloor]

because government by racial pandering isnt a good way to make policy. Higher prices for fossil fuels is a clear Democrat objective—supposedly to fight AGW. Yet the poor and minority communities are disproportionately impacted by that and the Democrats don’t give a damn. And you wanna talk about electric car subsidies and how many minorities can take advantage of that?

Maybe if the Democrats would understand that minorities are people Instead of a political interest group, I’d look at this differently. Meanwhile, the minority communities are inundated with fentanyl , bullets, and violence and Garland‘s DOJ gives us crickets.

Boom.

 

[mcmurtry66]

I like the idea of gov spending tax dollars on this stuff in poor communities. Cleaner water, pipes etc. Infrastructure. Good stuff. That's where are money should be going. DOJ? No. The way it's framed is just more pandering and virtue-signaling.

 

[iuwclurker]

I like the idea of gov spending tax dollars on this stuff in poor communities. Cleaner water, pipes etc. Infrastructure. Good stuff. That's where are many should be going.

Department of McMurtrifaction?

 

[Indianaftw]

So Jill Biden went to Ukraine this past weekend after Democrats Nancy Pelosi, Jim McGovern, Gregory Meeks, Adam Schiff, Barbara Lee, Bill Keating and Jason Crow already went? The absolute dripping stench that is unfolding with billions more in aid just smells to high heaven here. Just keep bending over America.

 

[mrhighlife]

I like the idea of gov spending tax dollars on this stuff in poor communities. Cleaner water, pipes etc. Infrastructure. Good stuff. That's where are money should be going. DOJ? No. The way it's framed is just more pandering and virtue-signaling.

Well then you shouldn't vote for Republicans or Democrats. Neither has done any of that since Eisenhower and Kennedy.

 

[mrhighlife]

Well then you shouldn't vote for Republicans or Democrats. Neither has done any of that since Eisenhower and Kennedy.

Even though I'm an evil dirty liberal its one of the reasons I like Governor Holcomb. He is actually spending on infrastructure where needed. Especially up here in The Region. One example is doubling the rail line for the South Shore. Yes that unfortunately means more FIPs will move here but it also means progress and more $$ for the area.

 

[Indianaftw]

Heres a legit question that got me wondering.

 

[mrhighlife]

Heres a legit question that got me wondering.

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I am not a fan of Kamala Harris but she would be hired in about 1/2 a second by hundreds of law firms out there.

Joe? Yeah unless he owned something he would have been forced into retirement years ago in the private sector.

 

[TDHoosier]

Or, my old basketball coach who said when you got them down, step on their necks and don't let up.

It is the will of the individual to either overcome or give up. If you don’t like the outcome change it. If you don’t like getting beat then do something to change it! Many look to government to solve it for them and that is where the foot on throat comes into play especially in big government

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

It is the will of the individual to either overcome or give up. If you don’t like the outcome change it. If you don’t like getting beat then do something to change it! Many look to government to solve it for them and that is where the foot on throat comes into play especially in big government

So, bootstraps.

 

[CO. Hoosier]

So, bootstraps.

You’re damn right bootstraps. The constant diminishing of the importance of individual effort and individualism is doing enormous damage to a whole generation.