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Fine. At the very least, can you agree that the original reporting about the girls being banned from the locker room was BS, and can you agree that it's outrageously irresponsible for people to be assuming this trans kid made some kind of "sexual" remark.

“can you agree that it’s outrageously irresponsible for people to be assuming this trans kid made some kind of sexual remark”

You’re saying that it’s outrageous that we all didn’t automatically assume that the girl making the accusation was making it all up?
 
“can you agree that it’s outrageously irresponsible for people to be assuming this trans kid made some kind of sexual remark”

You’re saying that it’s outrageous that we all didn’t automatically assume that the girl making the accusation was making it all up?
No, I'm saying it was ridiculous to immediately jump to "It must have been something sexual."
 
No, I'm saying it was ridiculous to immediately jump to "It must have been something sexual."
No, that’s not ridiculous at all. What other kind of inappropriate remark could a trans girl have made in a
locker room that non trans girls would have taken offense to?

It pretty much HAD to be something sexual in nature.

What else could it have been?
 
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Anything. Racial. Political. Personal. Who knows?
You’re grasping at straws here I think, goat.

We’re talking about a trans girl, who I presume has boy accessories, in the girls locker room.

You think she confessed to voting for Trump? Not watching the new gay rom com?

Come on, goat. It’s not ridiculous AT ALL to infer that the remark was sexual in nature.
 
LOL at political. In a girl's high school lockerroom.

"You all think Liz Truss is competent? Damn Tories, get with Labour!" :)
You think they don’t talk about politics in girls’ locker rooms? I’m sure not as often they talk about boys. But they do.
 
You’re grasping at straws here I think, goat.

We’re talking about a trans girl, who I presume has boy accessories, in the girls locker room.

You think she confessed to voting for Trump? Not watching the new gay rom com?

Come on, goat. It’s not ridiculous AT ALL to infer that the remark was sexual in nature.
It is ridiculous. You are transferring your own biases about trans kids onto a 14-year old. And in a thread where you criticized me for jumping ahead too fast.
 
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It is ridiculous. You are transferring your own biases about trans kids onto a 14-year old. And in a thread where you criticized me for jumping ahead too fast.
You’re so full of shit, goat. 😂

You’re the one saying it’s “obviously bullshit”.

I’m the one saying at best we don’t know. Which is objectively true.

Now, whose biases are being shown here?

Come on, man. You’re normally better than this.
 
You’re so full of shit, goat. 😂

You’re the one saying it’s “obviously bullshit”.

I’m the one saying at best we don’t know. Which is objectively true.

Now, whose biases are being shown here?

Come on, man. You’re normally better than this.
No, you're not. You were the one saying "At best we don't know" to my thoughts. But when it comes to your thoughts, it's not "best we don't know." It's obvious. There's no other explanation. Respectfully, you're full of shit if you don't see that.
 
No, you're not. You were the one saying "At best we don't know" to my thoughts. But when it comes to your thoughts, it's not "best we don't know." It's obvious. There's no other explanation. Respectfully, you're full of shit if you don't see that.
I never said it was obvious that the girl made a sexual comment. You’re putting words in my mouth.

I said it wasn’t unreasonable to infer that based on the context, to your contention the people assuming that were being ridiculous.

Again, you’re the one saying the WHOLE THING is bullshit based on the word of the mother and the captain of the team; who didn’t even address what the girl was accused of.

I’m saying we really have no way of knowing for sure while you’re dismissing it out of hand.
 
I never said it was obvious that the girl made a sexual comment. You’re putting words in my mouth.

I said it wasn’t unreasonable to infer that based on the context, to your contention the people assuming that were being ridiculous.

Again, you’re the one saying the WHOLE THING is bullshit based on the word of the mother and the captain of the team; who didn’t even address what the girl was accused of.

I’m saying we really have no way of knowing for sure while you’re dismissing it out of hand.
You said it couldn't be anything else. I don't know if you used the word "obvious," but you said it was obvious.
 
So my daughter asked if we could watch Hocus Pocus 2 last night. Sure why not. The biggest scene in the entire movie with all the hoopla is the "Trans Scene". Leave it to Disney wtf. They will stop at nothing to push this agenda.

I will say that Maverick was probably one of the most tastefully done movies in awhile in regards to all audiences. Even the so called sex scene was kid friendly. It was shocking to see in this day and age.
 
I'm guessing you won't see any of the Murdoch outlets update their reporting, but apparently that story was complete BS. It was a local news story that was reported without being fact-checked (the reporter never even contacted the student in question to ask for their side of the story), and the truth is apparently that the trans student entered the locker room (as state law allows), and some of the team members had a problem with her, and she was asked to leave, which she did. There was no accusation of the trans student making any sort of inappropriate comment. It's especially telling that you all assumed it was some kind of sexual comment. Apparently, the trans student was the probative victim in all this.

The locker room was shut down to the entire team, not just the ones who complained, while the school investigated the incident.


A boy doesn't belong in the girl's locker room. There is no story if we follow that rule that existed a really long time. There is also a girl in North Carolina that isn't suffering from long term concussion syndrome from getting whacked in the head by a spiked volleyball from a biological male.


The tranny movement is just setting the stage to take the next slide down the slippery slope. They have been indicating their goals for decades.

Get the dress wearing boys out of girl spaces.
 
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You think they don’t talk about politics in girls’ locker rooms? I’m sure not as often they talk about boys. But they do.
No, I don't think that topic gets brought up often at all in a high school girls locker room. And that isn't some gender thing, I don't recall politics ever being brought up in my high school boys locker room either.
 
A boy doesn't belong in the girl's locker room. There is no story if we follow that rule that existed a really long time. There is also a girl in North Carolina that isn't suffering from long term concussion syndrome from getting whacked in the head by a spiked volleyball from a biological male.


The tranny movement is just setting the stage to take the next slide down the slippery slope. They have been indicating their goals for decades.

Get the dress wearing boys out of girl spaces.
Playing devil's advocate here, and without knowing the details of the situation, but could this girl's injuries have happened if a girl had spiked it? I mean, coed PE has been around for a long time, and I'm sure volleyball was played. Hell, I had friends who took volleyball as an elective in college, and it was coed. Do we need to outlaw this?
 
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B.S. In all my time sneaking into girls' locker rooms, hiding in lockers, rummaging around in the vents and such, I've never once heard them talk about politics.
Yea but, do you have any Band Camp stories you could share?
 
A boy doesn't belong in the girl's locker room. There is no story if we follow that rule that existed a really long time. There is also a girl in North Carolina that isn't suffering from long term concussion syndrome from getting whacked in the head by a spiked volleyball from a biological male.


The tranny movement is just setting the stage to take the next slide down the slippery slope. They have been indicating their goals for decades.

Get the dress wearing boys out of girl spaces.
Scenes from drag events hosted across the United States in bars, clubs, and outdoor festivals have been even more shocking and disturbing: in Miami, a man with enormous fake breasts and dollar bills stuffed into his G-string grabs the hand of a preschool-aged girl and struts her in front of the crowd; in Washington, D.C., a drag queen wearing leather and chains teaches a young child how to dance for cash tips; in Dallas, hulking male figures with makeup smeared across their faces strip down to undergarments, simulate a female orgasm, and perform lap dances on members of a roaring audience of adults and children. Newspaper headlines have also announced abuses: “Tucson High School Counselor Behind Teen Drag Show Arrested for Relationship with Minor”; “Houston Public Library Admits Registered Child Sex Offender Read to Kids in Drag Queen Storytime”; “Drag Queen Charged with 25 Counts of Felony Child Sexual Abuse Material Possession”; “Second ‘Drag Queen Story Hour’ Reader in Houston Exposed as Convicted Child Sex Offender”; “Drag Queen Story Hour Activist Arrested for Child Porn, Still Living with His Adopted Kids.”
 
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Scenes from drag events hosted across the United States in bars, clubs, and outdoor festivals have been even more shocking and disturbing: in Miami, a man with enormous fake breasts and dollar bills stuffed into his G-string grabs the hand of a preschool-aged girl and struts her in front of the crowd; in Washington, D.C., a drag queen wearing leather and chains teaches a young child how to dance for cash tips; in Dallas, hulking male figures with makeup smeared across their faces strip down to undergarments, simulate a female orgasm, and perform lap dances on members of a roaring audience of adults and children. Newspaper headlines have also announced abuses: “Tucson High School Counselor Behind Teen Drag Show Arrested for Relationship with Minor”; “Houston Public Library Admits Registered Child Sex Offender Read to Kids in Drag Queen Storytime”; “Drag Queen Charged with 25 Counts of Felony Child Sexual Abuse Material Possession”; “Second ‘Drag Queen Story Hour’ Reader in Houston Exposed as Convicted Child Sex Offender”; “Drag Queen Story Hour Activist Arrested for Child Porn, Still Living with His Adopted Kids.”
It is female blackface.

Also, this idea that you can be what you want and into what you want is smashed up against the whole trans movement. Not a girly girl? Must be trans. A boy into fashion? Well cut your penis off and call yourself Sally. The two ideas are in conflict with each other.
 
It is female blackface.

Also, this idea that you can be what you want and into what you want is smashed up against the whole trans movement. Not a girly girl? Must be trans. A boy into fashion? Well cut your penis off and call yourself Sally. The two ideas are in conflict with each other.
Well, blackface was used at one point to mock black people. I don't see much mocking of females here--they just really wish they were females.

I really don't understand trans-ideology in the intellectual sphere. It is goobledy gook, to me. That stuff you posted from Rubin in City Journal just looks like someone trying to work out their own psychological issues in obscure philosophical terms, without much attention to rigor, logic, or self-reflection.

The underlying goal of some in the intellectual sphere to normalize and justify child sexual abuse is evil. But I don't think many drag performers are thinking that--they just want to be liked and normalized for who they are, I'd guess.
 

Former CEO of Levi's. She describes part of the problem but doesn't drill on it. There is a school to Twitter/Tik Tok pipeline that pushes the culture. If you want to shut down some of the insanity we see in the culture at large, you have to hit it young.

She is correct though, we have raised 2 generations now of moral terrorists and a bunch of the old heads are too scared to tell the kids to shut the f--- up because of fear of being ostracized in a place that isn't real.
 
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Seems much ado about nothing. Probably should just change her name to Karen.
Then you clearly don't understand the purpose of psychotherapy, the importance of the bond between patient-therapist, and the need to keep those ideological biases out of the patient relationship.
 
Then you clearly don't understand the purpose of psychotherapy, the importance of the bond between patient-therapist, and the need to keep those ideological biases out of the patient relationship.
And yet nothing in that article pertained to that.

She appeared to get bent out of shape simply for having to acknowledge the existence of a bunch of isms/biases.

It is also one side of a story.
 
Social justice is a bastardization of Justice. Justice stands on its own and people understand what it means. Social justice has nothing to do with actual justice.

When you make it "social justice" you change the meaning and now it becomes whatever a specific group wants it to mean. It's used as a tool to hammer anyone that does not agree with them.

The same goes for "my truth". There is the truth. There is no your truth or my truth. When you change it to "my truth" it becomes whatever you want it to mean regardless of the facts. Example: biological men can get pregnant. Wrong! That may be "your truth" but it has no basis in science or reality. Your truth is wrong.

It's all part of the socialism push to redefine everything to the socialist's advantage. You can shove your social justice and your truth. It means nothing to me or any sane person.
 
Social justice is a bastardization of Justice. Justice stands on its own and people understand what it means. Social justice has nothing to do with actual justice.

When you make it "social justice" you change the meaning and now it becomes whatever a specific group wants it to mean. It's used as a tool to hammer anyone that does not agree with them.

The same goes for "my truth". There is the truth. There is no your truth or my truth. When you change it to "my truth" it becomes whatever you want it to mean regardless of the facts. Example: biological men can get pregnant. Wrong! That may be "your truth" but it has no basis in science or reality. Your truth is wrong.

It's all part of the socialism push to redefine everything to the socialist's advantage. You can shove your social justice and your truth. It means nothing to me or any sane person.
The statement and the "woke" movement are power plays. You don't have to believe what I am forcing you to say, but you have to say it. That is the demoralizing power play that you push on the people. Totalitarians do that nonsense all the time.
 
And yet nothing in that article pertained to that.
Yes, it did. Here are FIVE specific places in the article and links found in the article that "pertained to that":

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But she found the teachings at Antioch opposed her beautiful ideal. Her professors and administrators viewed social justice as a critical lens through which Western society must be viewed to deconstruct cultural norms and values rooted in white supremacy, racism, and oppression of marginalized people. She believes this conceptualization of social justice is socially destructive and an anti-resilience philosophy.
The video below recounts a training designed to turn all mental-health counselors into social-justice advocates who turn all interactions involving therapy into issues about race. Counselors are also trained to place also people with gender issues onto a transitioning track, i.e., they’re trained in “affirmative therapy.”
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