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It isn't in schools

Carmel Clay Parents, school board candidates call unofficial website disappointing and deceptive


"You should be very concerned that some national organization is trying to influence who's on our school board," McNally said.

Free to Learn Action is behind the page. Most notably, their $1 Million Dollar ad campaign last year in Virginia helped Republican Glenn Youngkin beat Democrat Terry McCauliffe. They made education a top issue in their ad. It now appears they've set their sights on local school board elections. FTLA did not respond back to our request for comment.
 
Carmel Clay Parents, school board candidates call unofficial website disappointing and deceptive


"You should be very concerned that some national organization is trying to influence who's on our school board," McNally said.

Free to Learn Action is behind the page. Most notably, their $1 Million Dollar ad campaign last year in Virginia helped Republican Glenn Youngkin beat Democrat Terry McCauliffe. They made education a top issue in their ad. It now appears they've set their sights on local school board elections. FTLA did not respond back to our request for comment.
I think this is a very, very bad development. I’m also very much against political party school board elections.
 
I think this is a very, very bad development. I’m also very much against political party school board elections.
Back in the day, IPS school board elections were grassroots and inexpensive. About 10 years ago, out of state political groups started spending millions to get favored candidates elected.
 
I think this is a very, very bad development. I’m also very much against political party school board elections.
I don't. Not anymore. There used to be fundamental agreements between the two parties as to what school's jobs were. That isn't the case anymore.

The last election I went out and looked at the campaign pages for all of the candidates. If they had a rainbow flag flying on a page about the school board, they were an easy nope. Bigot? Nope. Just don't think "Pride" is the biggest thing you should be advertising when you are running to represent me on the school board. Other terms that were immediate nopes from me "diversity, equity, equitable, inclusion". We have one running in the district now who figured out that shit wasn't flying anymore so now it is the "psychological well being" of the children. She isn't a psychiatrist. They weren't worried about the psychological well being of our kids when we were the last in the area to go back to in school instruction. I want my kids to be able to read and comprehend, communicate, logically think through math, have an understanding of the historic underpinnings of the country and how we got to where we are now and I want it covered in a factual manner, understand science concepts that don't involve "men can get pregnant" or "women penises".

Put the D next to the name, it makes it easier to kick them to the curb for the time being. You can tell from this thread alone that like everything else, the D or R gives you a pretty damn good idea of what you are dealing with.
 
It shouldn't be leave, it should be fired. No more taxpayer funded salary.
Agreed but the pattern is set. Pervert groomer teacher does something disgusting. School admin claims they did not approve and are now shocked and outraged. Teacher put on leave and either resigns or is transferred. Union supports teacher and protects them. In a week or two a new grooming scandal occurs at a school. Repeat the process.
 
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Agreed but the pattern is set. Pervert groomer teacher does something disgusting. School admin claims they did not approve and are now shocked and outraged. Teacher put on leave and either resigns or is transferred. Union supports teacher and protects them. In a week or two a new grooming scandal occurs at a school. Repeat the process.
Yep, I think for our future, school boards are the most important elections.
 
Yep, I think for our future, school boards are the most important elections.
Yes, school boards are key. I'd also like to see action taken against the school administration when these things happen. Either fire them or put them on probation. They hire the teachers. They are responsible for oversight. When they fail to protect children from groomers they should face the consequences.
 
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I don't. Not anymore. There used to be fundamental agreements between the two parties as to what school's jobs were. That isn't the case anymore.

The last election I went out and looked at the campaign pages for all of the candidates. If they had a rainbow flag flying on a page about the school board, they were an easy nope. Bigot? Nope. Just don't think "Pride" is the biggest thing you should be advertising when you are running to represent me on the school board. Other terms that were immediate nopes from me "diversity, equity, equitable, inclusion". We have one running in the district now who figured out that shit wasn't flying anymore so now it is the "psychological well being" of the children. She isn't a psychiatrist. They weren't worried about the psychological well being of our kids when we were the last in the area to go back to in school instruction. I want my kids to be able to read and comprehend, communicate, logically think through math, have an understanding of the historic underpinnings of the country and how we got to where we are now and I want it covered in a factual manner, understand science concepts that don't involve "men can get pregnant" or "women penises".

Put the D next to the name, it makes it easier to kick them to the curb for the time being. You can tell from this thread alone that like everything else, the D or R gives you a pretty damn good idea of what you are dealing with.
This seems pretty short sided. It might be your ox that’s getting gored down the road. I think local school board elections should be local and non political. Period.
 
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It isn't in schools so much that every major textbook company decided to include it in math questions. 40% of the textbooks had to be tossed because they focused on something other than math (or moved the focus).
Meanwhile - this is very much in schools - and it’s awful. What a bunch of coddled babies. They’ll fail in life.

 
Meanwhile - this is very much in schools - and it’s awful. What a bunch of coddled babies. They’ll fail in life.

This is also in schools. These people have no shame. They will all fail miserably and they should because they’re morons.

 
This seems pretty short sided. It might be your ox that’s getting gored down the road. I think local school board elections should be local and non political. Period.
My ox is getting gored now under the current rules.
 
My ox is getting gored now under the current rules.
That’s just silly and a complete generalization. You rule someone out because they use the word diversity? You take one or two crazy examples and then try to assume that’s the norm. Want to guess whether there is a D or R beside the Nazi school board candidate in Zionsville? I don’t know but I’ve got a pretty good idea. So I’d never vote for an R because they think some Nazis are very fine people. In fact, the head of the Republican Party thinks that, so it really must be true.
 
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This is also in schools. These people have no shame. They will all fail miserably and they should because they’re morons.

We should not be enabling this kind of behavior.

People on the left should be denouncing these idiots. People on the left should be denouncing the misuse of the term fascism. People on the left should be strongly denouncing the "argument" that: (1) you label someone a Nazi or fascist and then (2) argue "civil society" cannot accommodate Nazis or fascists, because it leads to (3) that means you legitimize violence instead of rational discourse against those you label "bad."

For those of you who think this kind of thinking is limited to just batshit crazy liberal crappy colleges, I think you are wrong--it is far more prevalent than that and, in my mind, a much larger threat than "White Supremacists" in this country.
 
It’s no To Kill a Mockingbird….
Do you think the rational for removing To Kill a Mockingbird from curriculums was put forward by Republicans?


2022​

After parent complaints about the use of racist epithets in To Kill a Mockingbird; Adventures of Huckleberry Finn; The Cay; Of Mice and Men; and Roll of Thunder, Hear My Cry, the Burbank (CA) Unified School District superintendent removed these titles from required classroom reading lists. Following a review committee’s recommendation, the superintendent also banned the use of the N-word in all school classes. The titles are available for individual reading and teachers can use then with small groups after the teacher has undergone training on facilitating conversations on racism, implicit bias, and racial identity. The district will also review reading lists every eight years.

In response to concerns raised by students and parents, Of Mice and Men, The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, and To Kill a Mockingbird were temporarily removed from the mandatory reading list of the William S. Hart Union High School District in Santa Clarita (CA). While the books remain in school libraries, teachers can no longer use them as part of their curricula. The district is accepting input students, teachers, and parents as they set criteria for what should be on mandatory reading lists. No timeline has been provided for when the criteria will be revealed or utilized.

2021​

Banned and challenged for racial slurs and their negative effect on students, featuring a “white savior” character, and its perception of the Black experience.

After parent complaints about the use of racist epithets in To Kill a Mockingbird; Adventures of Huckleberry Finn; The Cay; Of Mice and Men; and Roll of Thunder, Hear My Cry, the Burbank (CA) Unified School District superintendent issued a statement removing the books from the district’s required reading lists for its English curriculum and banned the use of the N-word in all school classes. The books will be allowed in classroom libraries, but no student can be required to read them. At a board meeting, the superintendent stated, “This is not about censorship, this is about righting the wrongs of the past.”

2020​

A white substitute teacher at the Mustang (OK) High School read the N-Word aloud from To Kill A Mockingbird. The only black student in the class recorded the reading, notified the teacher that she was offended, and brought the matter to the attention of the principal. The district adopted a new policy stating that “racially charged language will no longer be spoken” in classrooms. The status of the substitute teacher is not known.

2019​

A parent requested that the novel be removed from the 9th-grad curriculum at Monona Grove (WI) High School. The parent, who had two children in the district, complained about the book’s use of the N-word, the portrayal of Atticus Finch as a white savior, the absence of other works representing people of color, and the deep racial divide in a student body that is 83% white. Following a review process, the district decided to retain the title, stating, “The committee recommended MGHS English teachers carefully consider [the book’s] place in the curriculum, the context in which it’s taught, other equivalent options or other ways to use the book that might include using [it] as a choice rather than as a required text.” Citing the use of racial slurs in the books, Duluth (MN) school district administrators decided to remove Lee’s novel and Adventures of Huckleberry Finn from the curriculum “to protect the dignity of our students” and not require them to read books that marginalize them. The titles remain in the school library, and can still be optional reading for students.
 
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We should not be enabling this kind of behavior.

People on the left should be denouncing these idiots. People on the left should be denouncing the misuse of the term fascism. People on the left should be strongly denouncing the "argument" that: (1) you label someone a Nazi or fascist and then (2) argue "civil society" cannot accommodate Nazis or fascists, because it leads to (3) that means you legitimize violence instead of rational discourse against those you label "bad."

For those of you who think this kind of thinking is limited to just batshit crazy liberal crappy colleges, I think you are wrong--it is far more prevalent than that and, in my mind, a much larger threat than "White Supremacists" in this country.
Co-sign.
 
My ox is getting gored now under the current rules.
In my district, we have a very conservative school board which matches the community. No loonie stuff and no CRT. Yet, we have a couple candidates for this cycle that are far right wingers. What are they trying to “fix” in this district? Why do they think their ox is being gored? How many voters will agree with them?
 
In my district, we have a very conservative school board which matches the community. No loonie stuff and no CRT. Yet, we have a couple candidates for this cycle that are far right wingers. What are they trying to “fix” in this district? Why do they think their ox is being gored? How many voters will agree with them?
We’re kind of the same way here. We have a very sane base of parents and so far the board matches. I will immediately struggle to push the button for someone that goes all Chicken Little on the topic. So far so good.
 
In my district, we have a very conservative school board which matches the community. No loonie stuff and no CRT. Yet, we have a couple candidates for this cycle that are far right wingers. What are they trying to “fix” in this district? Why do they think their ox is being gored? How many voters will agree with them?
Maybe they're just running to make sure that 'loonie stuff' doesn't get into the school system.
 
Don't know - I haven't seen their positions and you haven't posted them - just labeled them with your own subjective label.
These candidates are being endorsed by Purple for Parents. Back to my earlier point, they are tiling at windmills in this district.
 

Clown world. Seriously.

So, to recap-there’s a biological male in the womens locker room making inappropriate comments to the women as they change…….

……….and they kicked the women out.

Clown world doesn’t do it justice.

They let a teen boy into the locker room who dresses like a teen girl. The teen boy made inappropriate (likely sexual) comments to the teen females on his team while they were in various states of undress in the locker room. The 10 teen females were told to go change in a single stall bathroom, the teen boy cosplaying as a girl gets their locker room, and now the girls are being investigated for harassing him.

Bozo ain't got nothing on that ish.
I'm guessing you won't see any of the Murdoch outlets update their reporting, but apparently that story was complete BS. It was a local news story that was reported without being fact-checked (the reporter never even contacted the student in question to ask for their side of the story), and the truth is apparently that the trans student entered the locker room (as state law allows), and some of the team members had a problem with her, and she was asked to leave, which she did. There was no accusation of the trans student making any sort of inappropriate comment. It's especially telling that you all assumed it was some kind of sexual comment. Apparently, the trans student was the probative victim in all this.

The locker room was shut down to the entire team, not just the ones who complained, while the school investigated the incident.


 
It shouldn't be leave, it should be fired. No more taxpayer funded salary.
They certainly have a process they have to follow. Suspension during investigation, and termination (if warranted) after the investigation is over.

My guess is this guy's investigation will be pretty short. He'd probably be smart to delete his internet history and go over all his computers with a powerful magnet, too.
 
They certainly have a process they have to follow. Suspension during investigation, and termination (if warranted) after the investigation is over.

My guess is this guy's investigation will be pretty short. He'd probably be smart to delete his internet history and go over all his computers with a powerful magnet, too.
Is that what the child pornsters do?
 
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I'm guessing you won't see any of the Murdoch outlets update their reporting, but apparently that story was complete BS. It was a local news story that was reported without being fact-checked (the reporter never even contacted the student in question to ask for their side of the story), and the truth is apparently that the trans student entered the locker room (as state law allows), and some of the team members had a problem with her, and she was asked to leave, which she did. There was no accusation of the trans student making any sort of inappropriate comment. It's especially telling that you all assumed it was some kind of sexual comment. Apparently, the trans student was the probative victim in all this.

The locker room was shut down to the entire team, not just the ones who complained, while the school investigated the incident.


Wait a minute, there absolutely was an accusation of an improper comment made by the trans student in the initial article. By a student athlete at the school.

WCAX didn’t say they took down the article because it was inaccurate, only that they did so to prevent “further harm” to the trans community.

Furthermore, the denial comes from the mother of the student accused of making the comment. I don’t know if the comment was made or not, but I’m not sure I’m taking the mothers word for it.

At best, it’s uncertain what actually happened.

To say it was complete bs seems a little premature. I’d think you would know that, Goat.
 
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Wait a minute, there absolutely was an accusation of an improper comment made by the trans student in the initial article. By a student athlete at the school.

WCAX didn’t say they took down the article because it was inaccurate, only that they did so to prevent “further harm” to the trans community.

Furthermore, the denial comes from the mother of the student accused of making the comment. I don’t know if the comment was made or not, but I’m not sure I’m taking the mothers word for it.

At best, it’s uncertain what actually happened.

To say it was complete bs seems a little premature. I’d think you would know that, Goat.
I think it's pretty obvious it was complete BS. It's not just the mother's denial. I don't give that any value at all. But the team captain described the incident in pretty much the opposite terms of those from the girl featured in the original report. Nothing about that original report is consistent with anything anyone else said in the further reporting.

So, either this one girl is lying, or her teammates and school officials are all part of a conspiracy against her.
 
I think it's pretty obvious it was complete BS. It's not just the mother's denial. I don't give that any value at all. But the team captain described the incident in pretty much the opposite terms of those from the girl featured in the original report. Nothing about that original report is consistent with anything anyone else said in the further reporting.

So, either this one girl is lying, or her teammates and school officials are all part of a conspiracy against her.
No, it’s not “completely obvious” that it was bs. That’s not supported by what we know at all.

The team captain just said “she didn’t do anything to anyone” and “she was where she was supposed to be”. She didn’t claim the girl didn’t SAY anything, which was the claim made.

It seems pretty unlikely to me that the one student made the whole thing up out of thin air. I’m pretty sure SOMETHING happened. We just don’t know what.

Again, saying it was “obviously bs” is pretty premature. At best, we don’t know.
 
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No, it’s not “completely obvious” that it was bs. That’s not supported by what we know at all.

The team captain just said “she didn’t do anything to anyone” and “she was where she was supposed to be”. She didn’t claim the girl didn’t SAY anything, which was the claim made.

It seems pretty unlikely to me that the one student made the whole thing up out of thin air. I’m pretty sure SOMETHING happened. We just don’t know what.

Again, saying it was “obviously bs” is pretty premature. At best, we don’t know.
Fine. At the very least, can you agree that the original reporting about the girls being banned from the locker room was BS, and can you agree that it's outrageously irresponsible for people to be assuming this trans kid made some kind of "sexual" remark?
 
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