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I kind of assumed we were talking about IU. Including his Marquette years is rationalizing his success if you're an IU fan.
semantics...we'll call 2013 the 2nd best/ most skiled team in our coaches career but was squashed like a bug in the sweet 16...there you go
If he can make the final four at Marquette then you would think he would have a chance at IU as well. You say he has no chance to do it here because he has not proven it here but in his history it has proven that he can go that far.
there has been a lot better teams than the 2013 IU team that did not make it past the sweet 16.
what does your humble opinion have to do with reality of the actual general perception of that team?
Vegas liked us...a lot
rationalize away...you are the same guy who wanted Crean fired after last year but declared him a top 20 coach this year...so that's what we're dealing with
opinions are like kittens and you are giving them away...always...non-stop...ugh
love it...your rationalization for crean not going deep with 2 of the 3 best teams he's ever had or will ever have is that upsets happen?
this is your MO -- pick something that happens infrequently and apply it to something that happens frequently
newsflash from IUSCOTT: duke doesn't always get past the s16
lolololol
Just in my humble opinion the 2013 team was not the best team in the country going into that season. Again this has nothing to do if I like Crean or not since if they got rid of him tomorrow I would be behind that decision.what does your humble opinion have to do with reality of the actual general perception of that team?
Vegas liked us...a lot
rationalize away...you are the same guy who wanted Crean fired after last year but declared him a top 20 coach this year...so that's what we're dealing with
opinions are like kittens and you are giving them away...always...non-stop...ugh
Both Pro and Anti Crean sides have valid points. What I think most CAN agree on is next year is make or break.
Bad games happen, but when the number 1 seed is absolutely destroyed by the number 4 seed, it's excuses....
IU didn't have a field goal for the first 6 mins of the game. With 2 top 5 NBA draft picks on the roster. It wasn't that we lost, it was how IU lost.
It was one of the worst coached games by a coach at IU. Period.
How much talent does Crean need? Because we all know he isn't coaching a roster without a few first round draft picks past the sweet 16....
Very true, if he does not do well this year with this team he should be on the hot seat.
oh for the love of god -- you've literally written 1000 times that if we got rid of him now no one would coach here ever
or is this the robot thing you do where you give a thousand opinions a day but say you will really follow whatever IU does like a blind mule tied to a string?
again, you are probably a good dude, IU SCOTT, but your fighty, inconsistent ways make an unbearable board more unbearable
Again I root for INDIANA and not certain individual so it does not matter to me who the coach is as long as they win and do it the right way.oh for the love of god -- you've literally written 1000 times that if we got rid of him now no one would coach here ever
or is this the robot thing you do where you give a thousand opinions a day but say you will really follow whatever IU does like a blind mule tied to a string?
again, you are probably a good dude, IU SCOTT, but your fighty, inconsistent ways make an unbearable board more unbearable
I have a question for all these "fans" who claim they aren't happy just to make the Sweet 16 or even the Dance: What would it take for you to call for Crean's head?
It sure wasn't getting destroyed by Syracuse. All we got was a million excuses.
It sure wasn't when we didn't even make the NIT.
It sure hasn't been with all the over-signing to he has to run off players for more 3 stars.
If Crean doesn't make the Elite 8 next year, will you call for his head or say, "next year" again?
oh for the love of god -- you've literally written 1000 times that if we got rid of him now no one would coach here ever
or is this the robot thing you do where you give a thousand opinions a day but say you will really follow whatever IU does like a blind mule tied to a string?
again, you are probably a good dude, IU SCOTT, but your fighty, inconsistent ways make an unbearable board more unbearable
Why do you think I put him on ignore?
If he gets more off the court problems and we finish below 4th in the conference this year and lose before the sweet 16
If IU wins the conference with no off court problems and doesn't get past sweet 16, it might be time to move on
but you'll give your opinion 100 times a day regardless. again, you are probably a good dude but I am ignoring you now for the sake of my sanity. your approach is truly mind-numbing
fight fight fight then say, "I'm behind IU no matter what."
No -- just no!
Not even come close? Twice already but the point is... it is merely conjecture whether he will or will not. It is laughable that some think it is a truism.
I can think of a few other IU coaches who have thrown up some real stinkers in the tournament.
Appears that you just don't like it when someone disagrees with you. Seem a little insecure to me.but you'll give your opinion 100 times a day regardless. again, you are probably a good dude but I am ignoring you now for the sake of my sanity. your approach is truly mind-numbing
fight fight fight then say, "I'm behind IU no matter what."
No -- just no!
the traffic on this site seems to increase when I am responding so Peegs should pay me to keep the traffic up.
sure, every coach gets beat but our guy got his arse handed to him with the 2nd and 3rd best teams he's had in a 17 year career.
seriously, why is the procreant crown obsessed with one-off results? oh ya, it makes it all work for their guy.
YES -- everyone gets beat early in the tourney sometimes...our guy gets beat early 16 of 17 years...geez louise
I didn't say he had no chance, only that he hadn't done it and hadn't come close.
not for his position, salary, and the talent coaching at IU has allowed him to get but I could have rephrased: hasn't gone deep in 16 of 17 years
So you would think he should be fired if in the next 5 years he wins 3 more conference championships and goes to the sweet 16 every year but never gets to the final four. Would you have fired Bo Ryan with his record before his last two years because he always finished in the top 4 of the conference but never made it to the final four.
No, not even close. And it's not conjecture that he's failed to get past the S16. That's an irrefutable fact.
VanPastorMan
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I would put MSU in that camp. They played very well at the end of the year, won the BTT Tourney and got bounced in the first round. It happens.
Dean Smith's best team ever did not get by the sweet 16 in 84 with 4 future 1st round picks.
He's also been to the Final Four numerous times.
MSU also plays a real schedule instead of loading up on cupcakes every year.
Shouldn't people hold the greats to a higher standard than the other coaches out there where they shouldn't lose as a real high seed. Since he has been at IU Crean has not lost to a lower seed in the first round. He lost to two 1 seeds and a 4 seed and also lost to a 7 seed while he was a 10 seed.
Will he miss the NIT one year after finishing niinth, lose in the first round after finishing 7th...and have multiple arrests/citations/drug suspensions/mass transfers? If so then yes
And point guard just coming back from a broken arm...oops sorry you guys only allow TC to use the injury card,
