Accepting what we're getting..Means your fine with being less than average for the see able future.
Damn ..Do even care about Indiana basketball.?
I Don't Understand All The Negativity Towards Woody
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Damn ..Do even care about Indiana basketball.?
If the return is wins/losses, then you may be accurate. From a P&L perspective, IU is likely one of the best.
As far as the negativity, one thing I question is Woody's energy. Why in a day off was he not at Mullins game?
Because IU has CJ Gunn, and thats all he needs. Oh wait, thats a opinion, not fact. Well it was... According to some here...
Brian Evans made an interesting comment, I think it was on JMV, regarding Woody. He literally wasn’t being courted by anyone, college or pro, as a head coach. I can’t believe he was the top target when the search began. If you believe the rumors, Dolson was pretty certain he had Stevens up until he didn’t. Not sure if Woody was a panic answer to that, but it was a roll of the dice to hire a guy who had never coached or recruited at the college level. My biggest gripe with Woodson is that he didn’t seem to establish a culture when he arrived. We are 2+ years into his tenure and I still don’t know what our culture is. Best I can tell is acquire as many “stars” as you can and go from there. Our defense has gotten worse each year, we have yet to get a good shooting guard, and we run an
I heard the same rumor re Stevens. He and his wife were in, but the kids didn’t want to leave basically the only life they have known up in Boston. I think Dolson was pretty certain they had him, until they didn’t. Woody may have been a panic response to pacify the former players.
Beard needs to be the next coach here IMO
Yea, any search for most profitable and/or valuable programs and the lists almost always have IU top-5. That’s incredible given the last 25 years. If we won like a top-15 program we would be even bigger given how fired up our fans and donors would get.
Believe it or not for some, IUBB is big and we can outspend most programs. I guess my optimism lies in that we have so much going for us, we just need someone to take advantage of it. IUBB is a Ferrari (or Red Bull or Corvette or Tesla Plaid or whatever fast car you like), we just need a decent driver.
Did you honestly watch the Rutgers game? Bad, and I mean team history bad in every possible facet--including culture and the weak post game presser. That game was played as though we haven't had a coach all year.
Love Woody as a player and was excited for him to be here. Have been completely rooting for success but Rutgers was a telling moment and Minny wasn't exactly a turnaround. TJD clearly added an illusion of progress to this "system" and its results.
Lol now do each season’s win %. Wowzers people are dumb.
By my count he had 11 season under 68.5% wins. So 11 seasons under 24 wins or 1/3 of his career. That’s not even counting the years outside of the top 10.
By you knuckleheads metrics we should have fires Knight.
I accept that Woody exceeded my expectations through 2 years. We are not at the ceiling I would like but I never expected that would happen in his first 3 years.
Say I don't "accept" what IU offers right now. What should I be doing? Personally, the only thing I can think to do is hope this team starts to play the way I believe it's capable for the remainder of this season. Beyond that, I'll hope that Woody brings some pieces in this off season that shore up some of the current weaknesses.
What to do ...
I said at the beginning of the season that if CMW couldn't get this team in the top four of the BT then maybe he isn't the guy. Since then, it appears to be trending the wrong way.
Three five stars and what three four stars and IU is hurting for a high quality win! REALLY! At times, IU plays like it is a pickup game at HYPER. One game excessive turnovers. The next game terrible D. Ubiquitous poor FT shooting and TERRIBLE three point D. There doesn't appear to be a single phase of the game that this team can hang it's hat on.
And the losses this yea they have had to good teams have been blow outs except for Kansas at home. I think a telling stat is what my son sent me regarding 15+ point losses.
8 for Crean in his last three years.
12 for Archie in his last three years.
The Nebraska game brings CMW to 14 in his 2 1/2 years. Damn.
So, IU isn't just losing, they are losing BIG.
If this team doesn't make the tourney, I believe a long talk needs to happen with CMW and "encourage" him to retire and rest that back.
Three five stars and what three four stars and IU is hurting for a high quality win! REALLY! At times, IU plays like it is a pickup game at HYPER. One game excessive turnovers. The next game terrible D. Ubiquitous poor FT shooting and TERRIBLE three point D. There doesn't appear to be a single phase of the game that this team can hang it's hat on.
And the losses this yea they have had to good teams have been blow outs except for Kansas at home. I think a telling stat is what my son sent me regarding 15+ point losses.
8 for Crean in his last three years.
12 for Archie in his last three years.
The Nebraska game brings CMW to 14 in his 2 1/2 years. Damn.
So, IU isn't just losing, they are losing BIG.
If this team doesn't make the tourney, I believe a long talk needs to happen with CMW and "encourage" him to retire and rest that back.
Why? Because I disproved your point so you want to move goal posts. Sorry the statistics don’t fit your narrative.
Ahh I missed the word "not" in your post. Don't forget X
The one we do have rehabbing is likely going to be better than all of those (and I love TG and believe Cupps has a very high ceiling)
I hadn't thought of X, looked him up and he was a 3 almost 4 I guess (per 247--just googled). I kind of figured he started lower and got better in college -- hopefully he'll cap the regression now.
Bump.
See tonight’s game as another reason for a negative outlook.
See tonight’s game as another reason for a negative outlook.
I didn’t ask him. He probably doesn’t need to for a while. He made well over 300k a year for a while at MSU and however much of his 375k he got while here.
Just wondered. $375,000 don’t last long when you’re used to making the money he’s been making.
Whatever Fife did, I wished he hadn’t. But I don’t think Woodson would take advice from Fife, Matta nor anyone else sitting on the bench.
I think he’s confident he how’s he doing things. I think he’s stubborn just like I am stubborn.
We will see how things go this year and next. I’ll be thrilled to eat crow if we get in the Dance this year and make Elite 8 run next year.
So after paying taxes on $375,000 of income, how much you think he’s living on per year with no other income coming in?
If we’re talking one year of salary, no. He made north of 300k for several years.
He may very well have banked a lot of his salary.
I’ve seen many people over the years suddenly make more income than they ever dreamed. Most assumed they’d continue to live as they had and bank much of the increased income.
Needs and wants became one and the same and their spending habits rose with their new income levels. Result was they didn’t save like they thought they would.
I can admit to some of that myself. I did really well saving until I watched my brother die in his thirties and I nearly (should have) died myself.
Huh...
Gezz..Tournament this yr. Or a run to an elite 8 next..
You must be petting a unicorn in the back yard .
Complete fantasy ~
I didn’t say that was happening. I said I’d gladly eat crow if it did. I am not worried about finding a recipe for fried crow. 🐦⬛
trust me, you won't hear much from Aloha today. Or Kraft, or any of the sunshine boys. They only come out and play on bright sunny days. Today is not such a day.
Hard to puff out your chest and tell folks not to get too low or too high when Purdue whips us in Bloomington- perhaps the cynics are correct-Woodson is a sub average college coach.
I will state the following while acknowledging- the season is only half over, and much can change. And I really hope they do.
That said, I figured this would be a disappointing season when we were not beating east Cupcake Us by 20+ at home like IU has done for the past fifty years. I thought the somewhat weak B1G might help us, and it still can, but aside from the Kansas game, we have looked severely overmatched against every other Q1 opponent. That's why I don't get too fired up over a 10 pt win at home vs a mediocre Minnesota team.
Hoping they can bounce back but next game is to be played inside IU's personal hellscape...Kohl Center.
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