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How do you deal with Islam?

Especially after his friends were killed by Russian-sponsored Communists in Vietnam.
I doubt the poor dumb bastards we slaughtered spent much time contemplating their political views.
But you do you.
 
Not sure how you deal with it. Woodchippers maybe?

How much human misery and death has been performed in the name of Christianity? Is Christianity a religion of peace?


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Genocide - the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.

I understand what it means.
You don't understand the meaning of the definition you typed.
 
How much human misery and death has been performed in the name of Christianity? Is Christianity a religion of peace?


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"How to show me you don't know anything about Christianity without saying it out loud..."

"... in the name of" tripped you up.

It's as dumb as trying to be profound by saying "how much harm has been done in the name of the Pittsburgh Steelers."


Even Jesus said Christianity boils to "Love the Lord with all your heart and love your neighbor as yourself." All them fellas doing all that harm you flew as your flag weren't doing it right.
 
"How to show me you don't know anything about Christianity without saying it out loud..."

"... in the name of" tripped you up.

It's as dumb as trying to be profound by saying "how much harm has been done in the name of the Pittsburgh Steelers."


Even Jesus said Christianity boils to "Love the Lord with all your heart and love your neighbor as yourself." All them fellas doing all that harm you flew as your flag weren't doing it right.
It is ok to kill your children or others if God tells you to? Jesus was tortured to death. God murdered the entire world in a flood, and he's going to do it again. If you don't believe in Jesus, you burn in the eternal hellfire. Sounds pretty violent.

Couldn't you say the muslims that kill or harm people aren't doing it right?
 
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It is ok to kill your children if God tells you to? Jesus was tortured to death. God murdered the entire world in a flood.
Your rationalizations are child like.

I was pretty clear, and yet you still missed it.

And PS - the Romans crucified Jesus. They weren't Christians. Poor flag ... again.
And PPS - Abraham wasn't a Christian either.
AND PPPS - I'll .... type .... real .... slow - "it ... is ... the ... NEW ... Testament"

Be careful or you'll start spouting about how Leviticus says to kill people for spitting on a cow, and believing it is really persuasive stuff.
 
Your rationalizations are child like.

I was pretty clear, and yet you still missed it.

And PS - the Romans crucified Jesus. They weren't Christians. Poor flag ... again.
And PPS - Abraham wasn't a Christian either.
AND PPPS - I'll .... type .... real .... slow - "it ... is ... the ... NEW ... Testament"

Be careful or you'll start spouting about how Leviticus says to kill people for spitting on a cow, and believing it is really persuasive stuff.
Jimbo is way off base here, but hopefully he at least by way of analogy demonstrates what's wrong with Crazy's take on Islam.
 
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I see that National Geographic map all the time. Go look it up and look at the paragraph in the upper left hand corner that explains why that map is shaded in two different colors.

For those with bad eyesight or who are too lazy to go look, I will quote it for you:

"Majority Report of United Nations Special Committee on Palestine recommended that Palestine be divided into an Arab state (shown in dark gray) and a Jewish state (shown in light gray). The area of Jerusalem would be administered by an International Trusteeship."

That map already showed the state of Israel. All that happened in 1948 is that Israel declared their statehood (per the UN recommendation) and gave their state a name. Instead of doing the same, the Arabs declared war and were beat. This caused them to lose territory and Egypt and Jordan took over the rest of the area that was to be a Palestinian state. They declared war again less than 20 years later and got their butts kicked again and lost even more territory. When you start a war and lose, sorry about ya.
 
14,000 killed in eastern Ukraine in conflict arising from Ukrainian artillery and rockets fired indiscriminately by NATO(US) funded and trained military since 2014, aimed predominantly at civilians, Russian ethnic and speaking civilians.

Yet ,"Russia started it"!

Comical....
Boris and Natasha worthy..
Yes, Russia started it in 2014 and continued to escalate over the years and culminating with their invasion of the rest of Ukraine. I have no idea why you're supporting the aggressor in this war. It must be all the misinformation you've read over the years along with your anti-American government attitude.
 
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I sure do. Is killing over 10,000 people a large number of people?
No. Israel is trying to destroy Hamas and it's a legitimate military goal. They are not trying to destroy all Palestinians and they're trying to limit the killing of "innocent" Palestinian citizens who Hamas is using as human shields, which is also a war crime. Hamas has vowed to destroy Israel and kill EVERY Jew in the process. There's your genocidal side in this conflict.
 
How much human misery and death has been performed in the name of Christianity? Is Christianity a religion of peace?


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Oh please. Christians are living in the 21st century. Fundamental maniacal Islamists (Like those who slaughtered humans on October 7) are living in the world of 100’s of years ago.
 
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Still genocide committed by a nation created because genocide is wrong.
There are no competing genocides here. Iranians want to wipe Israel off if the map. Palestinians are taught that Jews are sub-human and must be killed. Jews are not taught similarly.
 
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Oh please. Christians are living in the 21st century. Fundamental maniacal Islamists (Like those who slaughtered humans on October 7) are living in the wo rld of 100’s of years ago.
All, most, or some Christians are living this way? All, most, or some Muslims are living this way? Is the lack of democracy, economy, and education the main thing that creates religious extremists? Is civilized society the only thing keeps religion in check?
 
There are no competing genocides here. Iranians want to wipe Israel off if the map. Palestinians are taught that Jews are sub-human and must be killed. Jews are not taught similarly.
You think Israeli Jews think highly of Palestinians? All, most, or some Palestinians hate Jews and think they are sub-human?
 
You think Israeli Jews think highly of Palestinians? All, most, or some Palestinians hate Jews and think they are sub-human?
I don’t know what they think. I read about, and commented on, what they are taught. Obviously enough think Jews are sub-human to perform the Nazi-like atrocities of October 7.
 
Your rationalizations are child like.

I was pretty clear, and yet you still missed it.

And PS - the Romans crucified Jesus. They weren't Christians. Poor flag ... again.
And PPS - Abraham wasn't a Christian either.
AND PPPS - I'll .... type .... real .... slow - "it ... is ... the ... NEW ... Testament"

Be careful or you'll start spouting about how Leviticus says to kill people for spitting on a cow, and believing it is really persuasive stuff.
I'm merely repeating stuff from the Christian Bible, which includes the Old Testament. The Old Testament spawned Christianity. Revelation ends the New Testament, which deals with the end of the world. Jesus spoke of the eternal hellfire all the time: this is what happens to non-believers. Jesus was supposed to be sacrificed and killed, similar to Isaac.
 
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All, most, or some Christians are living this way? All, most, or some Muslims are living this way? Is the lack of democracy, economy, and education the main thing that creates religious extremists? Is civilized society the only thing keeps religion in check?
You seem to have a problem with religion I don’t relate to. That said, people can be led to believe other people deserve to die just because of who they are. In the 21st century, people only, or at least mostly, use Islam to advance that belief whether it be against the “wrong” Muslims or non-Muslims.
 
You seem to have a problem with religion I don’t relate to. That said, people can be led to believe other people deserve to die just because of who they are. In the 21st century, people only, or at least mostly, use Islam to advance that belief whether it be against the “wrong” Muslims or non-Muslims.
There are 4.5 million Muslims in the US: are they all more like Osama Bin Laden, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, somewhere in between? Do you know any Muslims?
 
Do you understand that the way you are using the word would mean every nation or group that has ever waged war was engaged in genocide?
What would a better term be: mass murderers, crimes against humanity? Did Stalin, Chairman Mao, or Pol Pot commit genocide? How about the US in the Vietnam War? What does the body count have to be to qualify?
 
What would a better term be: mass murderers, crimes against humanity? Did Stalin, Chairman Mao, or Pol Pot commit genocide? How about the US in the Vietnam War? What does the body count have to be to qualify?
They're war casualties. Also, the Communists were the bad guys in the Vietnam war, definitely worse than the South Vietnam side in that war. My ship rescued Vietnam boat people in the South China Sea in 1988. That's 13 years after Communists won the war. The ship, really a boat, started out with 130 people. Less than half of them were alive by the time we found and rescued them. That was one of dozens and dozens of Vietnamese boat people rescued by US and other navies and commercial ships over several years. They were desperate to escape that brutal regime. Now Vietnamese is transforming into a capitalist society and they're becoming a US partner for trade and other relationships.

You tried to blame Christianity for mass killing, but no ideology has killed more people than Communism and Naziism. And no, the Nazis were NOT killing in the name of Christianity. Some bozo tried to make that case on this board before.
 
They're war casualties. Also, the Communists were the bad guys in the Vietnam war, definitely worse than the South Vietnam side in that war. My ship rescued Vietnam boat people in the South China Sea in 1988. That's 13 years after Communists won the war. The ship, really a boat, started out with 130 people. Less than half of them were alive by the time we found and rescued them. That was one of dozens and dozens of Vietnamese boat people rescued by US and other navies and commercial ships over several years. They were desperate to escape that brutal regime. Now Vietnamese is transforming into a capitalist society and they're becoming a US partner for trade and other relationships.

You tried to blame Christianity for mass killing, but no ideology has killed more people than Communism and Naziism. And no, the Nazis were NOT killing in the name of Christianity. Some bozo tried to make that case on this board before.
So, if you insert the words "war casualties" in front of a stack of bodies, it makes it moral? It is moral to napalm children during a war? War always justifies killing and harming people: soldiers, civilians, both?


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Compared to Islam - yes. The answer is yes. This is 2023 Jimbo.

Look at the stats.

You are cherry picking. If you want to exclude any killing or harm that has ever come from Christianity, fine.

I do agree with you that the problematic areas of the world relating to Islam do need to evolve: more education, democracy, economy. But, I don't think Islam as a religion is any less violent or irrational than Christianity. I also think you are ignoring the vast majority of Muslims that are not violent. Hell, armageddon, and violent sacrifice of your child are pretty violent and intense. I could post infinite examples of ignorant and/or harmful Christians: doesn't mean they are the norm.

Is society really the only thing that keeps religion in check?
 
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