How biased is your media

[anon_mlxxvlbug9dpa]

Do a simple google search of Media Bias and dozens of conflicting charts can be found. It looks like someone needs to rate the raters. LOL

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes

 

[SuperHoosierFan]

Fox News’s appalling past 72 hours, analyzed
A data analysis shows how Fox News spun the Mueller indictment and Florida shooting into a defense of the president.
https://www.vox.com/2018/2/19/17027456/fox-news-mueller-indictment-trump

In the past 72 hours, Fox News:

• Limited its coverage of what the indictment actually reveals: evidence of foreign organizations trying to undermine American democracy
• Drastically reduced coverage of the Florida school shooting to push pundits onto TV to say this story actually vindicates President Trump, even though it does nothing of the sort
• Used a detail of the school shooting to push the narrative that the FBI, and by extension the Muller investigation, is flawed — and gave cover to President Trump

It’s easy to just chalk all this up to Fox News being Fox News. But Fox News is the main source of news for 19 percent of 2016 voters, including 40 percent of Trump voters. There’s academic evidence that Fox News is more powerful than we ever imagined. It’s a network that allows conspiracy theorists to make hay out of baseless lies. And to top it all off, there is evidence that the hosts see their jobs as advising Trump — talking directly to him — and that Trump sees them as his main information source.

This is why it’s important to keep track of what Fox News is doing. While Russians may have used clever trolling tactics to sow distrust in the American political process, Fox News does this out in the open, and it does it with a megaphone every single night, directly into the living rooms and the minds of millions and millions of Americans.

All you have to do is watch The Brainwashing of My Dad and you’ll know everything you need to know about republican media and what it’s accomplished over the last couple decades.

 

[SuperHoosierFan]

Fox News’s appalling past 72 hours, analyzed
A data analysis shows how Fox News spun the Mueller indictment and Florida shooting into a defense of the president.
https://www.vox.com/2018/2/19/17027456/fox-news-mueller-indictment-trump

In the past 72 hours, Fox News:

• Limited its coverage of what the indictment actually reveals: evidence of foreign organizations trying to undermine American democracy
• Drastically reduced coverage of the Florida school shooting to push pundits onto TV to say this story actually vindicates President Trump, even though it does nothing of the sort
• Used a detail of the school shooting to push the narrative that the FBI, and by extension the Muller investigation, is flawed — and gave cover to President Trump

It’s easy to just chalk all this up to Fox News being Fox News. But Fox News is the main source of news for 19 percent of 2016 voters, including 40 percent of Trump voters. There’s academic evidence that Fox News is more powerful than we ever imagined. It’s a network that allows conspiracy theorists to make hay out of baseless lies. And to top it all off, there is evidence that the hosts see their jobs as advising Trump — talking directly to him — and that Trump sees them as his main information source.

This is why it’s important to keep track of what Fox News is doing. While Russians may have used clever trolling tactics to sow distrust in the American political process, Fox News does this out in the open, and it does it with a megaphone every single night, directly into the living rooms and the minds of millions and millions of Americans.

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[Cortez88]

Do a simple google search of Media Bias and dozens of conflicting charts can be found. It looks like someone needs to rate the raters. LOL

If you watch Fox News, you cannot discuss media bias. Ever.

 

[anon_mlxxvlbug9dpa]

If you watch Fox News, you cannot discuss media bias. Ever.

That’s a bit one-sided isn’t it? I also blame Fox News for a lot of the discord and cognitive dissonance in our society but let’s not pretend that the other outlets are innocent.

Case in point this ludicrous OpEd from WashPo today that speaks fondly of Argentinian socialism and wealth redistribution and paints Argentina as an economic model to admire. Gag.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...y-far-worse/?utm_term=.a638226cada0&tid=sm_tw

 

[Cortez88]

That’s a bit one-sided isn’t it? I also blame Fox News for a lot of the discord and cognitive dissonance in our society but let’s not pretend that the other outlets are innocent.

Case in point this ludicrous OpEd from WashPo today that speaks fondly of Argentinian socialism and wealth redistribution and paints Argentina as an economic model to admire. Gag.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...y-far-worse/?utm_term=.a638226cada0&tid=sm_tw

My point is that there is bias and there is propaganda and outright lies. Fox does not do news.

I don’t read opinion pieces from any publication. I want the news and I want to inform my own opinions. That piece in Wapo is bad for sure.

 

[anon_mlxxvlbug9dpa]

My point is that there is bias and there is propaganda and outright lies. Fox does not do news.

I don’t read opinion pieces from any publication. I want the news and I want to inform my own opinions. That piece in Wapo is bad for sure.

Have you watched Smith or Baier there?

 

[Cortez88]

Have you watched Smith or Baier there?

No, but I will give you they are actual journalists. I hate all 24-7 political TV. Yuck.

I heard a podcast with a guy who wrote a book about Ailes. He said that Shep and Bauer are paid way above market because Fox knew it had to do it to get a couple serious people. No idea if it’s true, but I could see it. Ailes planned everything about Fox our.

 

[DrHoops]

Wow...so Fox News is actually damaging to public discourse (not that it's a surprise). No wonder they're banned in the UK.

Here is an interesting chart showing media bias. Bias is along the horizontal axis, what I would describe as quality of reporting is along the vertical. So the worst place to be is the bottom corners.

 

[toastedbread]

Wow...so Fox News is actually damaging to public discourse (not that it's a surprise). No wonder they're banned in the UK.

They make TASS blush for being non-partisan.

 

[DrHoops]

I'm sort of in the same boat as you. I like to read DailyKos from time to time, but for the most part I find hyper-partisan news off-putting. I can't even stand watching MSBC election coverage. I always turn to the major networks for that.

I do read TPM Media because although they're liberal, I think they have pretty high journalistic standards. I think the same is true of Mother Jones.

That's a great chart. My usual sources are mostly right in that gray circle at the top: WSJ, NYT, WaPo, Guardian, Economist, The Hill, Politico, and I've really come to appreciate the work being done at Axios lately.

I do creep down the arms a bit at times, with National Review, The Atlantic, and lately, Vanity Fair.

 

[DrHoops]

Is this a joke? Posted on a website named “All Generalizations Are False” is a chart of gross generalizations.

A brief Google search shows that the researcher measures the entire body of work of the outlets over a period of time. This would a fortiori cause the wire services and original news reporters to be top center. I’m not sure of the value of including exclusively opinion outlets with news outlets. The opinion outlets, which mostly deal with politics, would obviously fall down right or left. If the reasearcher would wash all the non-political news out of the analysis, and focused only on how outlets reported politics to measure bias, I think the chart would be substantially different.

We have a couple of other threads about the difference between opinion and fact. Charts like this that treat opinion as a news outlet perpetuates the problem.

^^^Mad because he gets all his news from the lower right quadrant^^^

 

[DrHoops]

I think there is a BIG difference between Kos and Infowars. Kos is liberal commentary on actual news stories. InfoWars is just insanity.

I think the issue is most Americans, many here, use opinion sites as fact. We used to get Kos and infowars linked here all the time.

 

[DrHoops]

Links, please.

I'm sure that's part of it. Trump is not very likeable. In contrast, Obama only had 20% negative coverage, in a country full of uneducated racists and Fox News. How do figure that?

 

[DrHoops]

Very true. Argentina is a mess. At least they're finally rid of the Kirchners, though...so it's a start!

That’s a bit one-sided isn’t it? I also blame Fox News for a lot of the discord and cognitive dissonance in our society but let’s not pretend that the other outlets are innocent.

Case in point this ludicrous OpEd from WashPo today that speaks fondly of Argentinian socialism and wealth redistribution and paints Argentina as an economic model to admire. Gag.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...y-far-worse/?utm_term=.a638226cada0&tid=sm_tw

 

[DrHoops]

I can also add, I have never even heard of any of the sites on the bottom left (red box)...and I'm pretty bored all day.

 

[sglowrider]

I...and I'm pretty bored all day.

sign up....
https://indiana.forums.rivals.com/threads/psa-for-trump-supporters.164418/

You know they are gullible folks there...

Simple: fake that you hate Hillary, Obama or any minority group. Love your bacon on a barrel and love the tax plans. And scream... where is our fakking wall in the appropriate moments of intimacy?

 

[Bruce1]

As IU has a very high level and well known Journalism Program I am surprised that I couldn't easily find any references on line indicating that a Journalism Code of Ethics is a core part of the school. Does anyone know if IU pushes ethical reporting in their programs? Actually, I am, appalled that on a national basis Universities are not making a huge uproar over the total lack of ethics in journalism today.

 

[CO. Hoosier]

As IU has a very high level and well known Journalism Program I am surprised that I couldn't easily find any references on line indicating that a Journalism Code of Ethics is a core part of the school. Does anyone know if IU pushes ethical reporting in their programs? Actually, I am, appalled that on a national basis Universities are not making a huge uproar over the total lack of ethics in journalism today.

Years ago I discussed with the publisher of our local paper (which is a Gannet operation) about journalist ethics. She sent me one document that was totally voluntary. I asked her what she would think if some body would enforce her ethics and she said that would violate freedom of expression. I reminded her that lawyers have strong ethics and strong enforcement, and that right to an attorney at least in criminal cases exists. The conversation kinda petered out.

 

[DrHoops]

No wonder Fox News exists.

Years ago I discussed with the publisher of our local paper (which is a Gannet operation) about journalist ethics. She sent me one document that was totally voluntary. I asked her what she would think if some body would enforce her ethics and she said that would violate freedom of expression. I reminded her that lawyers have strong ethics and strong enforcement, and that right to an attorney at least in criminal cases exists. The conversation kinda petered out.