The specific donor I've seen being mentioned as a hold-up are the Cooks.
Trilly on the IU Head Coach Position
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The specific donor I've seen being mentioned as a hold-up are the Cooks.
From my perspective that is WAY more work than I could imagine Woodson wanting to exert. He seems to struggle getting out to recruit in person regularly, let alone the things you lay out. Not to mention the humility it would take, which he doesn’t seem to have a great deal of.
Cooks Schmooks...who are they? Pshhh.... Cav isn't happy, this thing should have been done by now.
Very real possibility. And obviously its not the only way Woody can be "successful" again at IU. In reality, all he needs are a few impact portal guys. The "bar" at IU seems to be NCAA tournament appearances. I honestly think there are a lot of people that post on this board that could occasionally clear that bar, with all of IU's resources.
Man I’m almost 40 can we get a real coach for once? Bloomington is dead. This is sad. Everyone I talk to hates Woodson. Or maybe it’s because I lead off with good god he sucks.
Do NOT know if this is a reliable source. Just trying to juice the thread.
this twitter/x post about Gallo (apparently) leaving is a little troublesome, especially the line "unless there are sig changes". Granted, those are not his direct words (that we know)....but just begs to ask....what 'sig changes" is he referring to???
Wonder if Gallo's relationship with CMW becomes frosty now. Really bad timing for this story to leak.
Nick Saban left Miami to live in Tuscaloosa. Anything can happen. Besides...Saban got quite a pay hike when he moved. Donovan would too. (We know it ain't happening...but, hey....dreamin' it beats the reality we are stuck with.)
But Carl Cook loves him some Mike Woodson.
Do we know his relationship isn’t already frosty?
Gallo just doesn’t seem to be as happy or as productive this year. I bet he really liked playing with TJD and this years version just isn’t the same.
That’s who I heard. Our top dog donor. It may be more they’re fine with Woody vs saying “no” to a change. Still an issue.
Good grief IUBB is just impossible. Years and years of meddling from all angles with no one knowing what they’re doing.
Tell that to UK and UNC.
BCG axed after two years..
Doherty -+former PLAYER at UNC, axed after 3 seasons.
How them programs doing?
One nad season? IU was meh Year 1. Yeah, yeah..NCAAT. As a walk-on, AKA "Play in game.." Year 2 ...14 losses again. Blowout loss in NCAAT...again.
It's beyond this
Then he needs removed from the BoT. I would understand if they were improving but like I said before. The defense is horrible, 3pt shooting is horrible, rebounding is horrible, we foul way too much and turn the ball over way too much. There isn’t any indication this will get better.
Comparing apples to oranges with BCG was an alcoholic and UNC had a hall of fame coach Williams in the wing. We have no one like Williams waiting after Woodson is fired.
Roy turned job down first go around.
It's only apples to oranges because IU is no longer among the UK/UNC's.
Point is....those schools don't care about what others think. They **** up, they fix it. 1 year...2 years, or 3. It's why those programs have only had a blip or two..meanwhile, we are the ****ing blip.
If Woody gets a 4th year, he should Venmo TJD his entire salary.
Nothing. I have no clue how that works. Just assumed he was done when it was up.
If he’s still here, maybe we could replace Woodson with Dakich or Wittman next year.
I get it but those two are a bit different scenarios. UNC had Roy in the bag and Billy Clyde was a drunk, cruised the coeds and didn’t sign hide contract. We don’t have a Roy or an alcoholic without a contract. The buyout alone is pretty big. Let alone overcoming the largest donors saying no. He’s here one more year.
We have Stevens AND her husband in the bag now, you big dummy!
1. Like Matta?
2. How has that worked so far?
3. So become a head coach?
I don't care much whether he goes or stays, but he sure does seem inept.
I'll respond to this example again (in which I'll assume you didn't read the entire thread).
Gillespie had his 3rd DUI... really easy to fire the guy after his 3rd DUI.
Doherty was let go for a ringer in Roy Williams who had huge success at Kansas plus was a long time assistant for Dean Smith. Again, you knew he was your guy until he retires.
So I'll write again, unless you are 100% sure the guy you bring in will be there for a long time, you cannot fire a coach after one bad season. The elephant in the room, you owe him $12.6 million, all of which you will have to pay because no one with a brain should accept anything less. Might be different if the gut was wanting to coach again (like Crean or Archie) but Woody is done. This will be his last gig... hence pay me the $12.6. I'll throw out one more, the buyout drops to $4 mil after next year.
Guess I should have went into coaching.
My fear----Woody goes 22-15 next year----we win a game in the NCAAT----And now this discussion will be, "You cant fire a guy whos been to 3 NCAAT in 4 years."
Rinse and repeat.
Firing a guy for one bad season, I mean I guess not. BUT when its INDIANA, I mean that has to carry something? By letting this carry on, IU is basically saying---"Meh, we don't really care. COme here, we will let you be average for 4 years, pay you $20 million dollars....."
OR.....You come out and declare---"THis is ****ing Indiana. A ONCE proud program that I am determined to make elite again. Therefore, we have decided...….
Otherwise, have some ****ing balls, and show you are serious here. Or , ya know, keep the old man around, and hope like hell.
This three year rule is made up.
Billy Clyde was primarily fired because he was a bad coach. He never gets fired if he was good. Two years. That’s a serious bball school.
Another one at a bball school would be Chris Mack at Lville, he made it three years and 20 games, with one of those years being Covid.
Then there is Doherty. That counts, happened just two years after he was coach of the year. Part of firing a coach is lining up the next one.
You can fire a coach anytime. IU will probably lose $3-4M pretty easy next year in donations and gameday revenue (assuming both of those fall by 10%). Serious schools move quickly, like any good organization.
Billy Clyde was primarily fired because he was a bad coach. He never gets fired if he was good. Two years. That’s a serious bball school.
Another one at a bball school would be Chris Mack at Lville, he made it three years and 20 games, with one of those years being Covid.
Then there is Doherty. That counts, happened just two years after he was coach of the year. Part of firing a coach is lining up the next one.
You can fire a coach anytime. IU will probably lose $3-4M pretty easy next year in donations and gameday revenue (assuming both of those fall by 10%). Serious schools move quickly, like any good organization.
We’re just delaying the inevitable, unless Woodson gets a couple of killer guards from the portal. So, yeah, anyways, we’re delaying the inevitable. We’ll sit through another year of shitty basketball and then do what we should’ve done right goddamn now.
Dusty May and Chris Collins is no Roy. Beard would be a backhand or strangle away from making us a complete embarrassment.
Glad you are willing to pay for the 12 million plus buyout. Pay up or shut up.
According to Rabby, Indiana would be able to land Bruce Pearl.
Didn't I hear that Pearl also has a very large buyout to leave Auburn? So, in addition to the 12 million we might owe CMW, we might also have to pay to get Pearl. Think there's a similar issue with Beard.
Re: Assembly Hall
Bad sight lines are a very good thing now for fans in the arena. It means you have less brain trauma from watching what transpires from IU on the court.
Bad sight lines are a very good thing now for fans in the arena. It means you have less brain trauma from watching what transpires from IU on the court.
One thing that has not changed over the last five decades in Btown is an active rumor mill.
That’s good. Of course the issue is IU needs to try and land him vs sticking with dead end Woody. Sad.
