HoosierJimbo89, thanks for posting on the Kentucky board

[GoCatsGoKY]

But there is already an Indiana Sucks thread. Feel free to share your thoughts there. Oh, and don't bother rooting for Kentucky.... We don't need the negativity and bad luck. Thanks.

https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/as-a-hoosier-im-jealous-of-your-program.286330/

This is the thread you should post on @HoosierJimbo89 instead of creating new threads.

https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/...hen-indiana-sucks.110640/page-43#post-7548027

 

[IU Scott]

Why would any IU fan want to be like UK and their cheating history.

 

[HoosierJimbo89]

But there is already an Indiana Sucks thread. Feel free to share your thoughts there. Oh, and don't bother rooting for Kentucky.... We don't need the negativity and bad luck. Thanks.

https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/as-a-hoosier-im-jealous-of-your-program.286330/

This is the thread you should post on @HoosierJimbo89 instead of creating new threads.

https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/...hen-indiana-sucks.110640/page-43#post-7548027

Some PU nutjob created a fake account. Little brother's obsession is strong, and this is what he is doing in his mother's basement instead of trying to find a job. Thanks for the kind words, Cletus.

 

[peytonruIes]

Some PU nutjob created a fake account. Little brother's obsession is strong, and this is what he is doing in his mother's basement instead of trying to find a job. Thanks for the kind words, Cletus.

Looks like "you're" on the Duke board too...

https://duke.forums.rivals.com/thre...ers-could-find-a-coach-like-coach-k.10857798/

 

[HoosierJimbo89]

Looks like "you're" on the Duke board too...

https://duke.forums.rivals.com/thre...ers-could-find-a-coach-like-coach-k.10857798/

Somebody has serious issues and a lot of time on their hands. I guess this is the reaction some PU fans have to being reminded that Painter sucks at recruiting and will never make it past the Sweet 16. Instead of doing something about it, they show their crazy on the internet and obsess about big brother.

 

[CHAPDAV3]

Why would any IU fan want to be like UK and their cheating history.

Well its been a min since UK has had any issues or violations. What about your school, how long since last little mess up. Nothing wrong with wanting your program to be like UKs at this time. Its a respectable fun exciting type of program to have. Save the Rupp racist Cal two vacated blah blah blah. I got your long letter years ago. Talk about a obssesed guy with time on his hands, IU scott your no different then this PU guy , with a obssesion and to much time on your hands.

 

[fkfootball]

Well its been a min since UK has had any issues or violations. What about your school, how long since last little mess up. Nothing wrong with wanting your program to be like UKs at this time. Its a respectable fun exciting type of program to have. Save the Rupp racist Cal two vacated blah blah blah. I got your long letter years ago. Talk about a obssesed guy with time on his hands, IU scott your no different then this PU guy , with a obssesion and to much time on your hands.

I think UK will die as soon as Calipari retires.

 

[IU Scott]

Well its been a min since UK has had any issues or violations. What about your school, how long since last little mess up. Nothing wrong with wanting your program to be like UKs at this time. Its a respectable fun exciting type of program to have. Save the Rupp racist Cal two vacated blah blah blah. I got your long letter years ago. Talk about a obssesed guy with time on his hands, IU scott your no different then this PU guy , with a obssesion and to much time on your hands.

No thank you because I don't my program built on one and done players

 

[TopCatCal]

I think UK will die as soon as Calipari retires.

You say that UK basketball will die when Calipari leaves. KENTUCKY has had 5 that's right 5 different head coaches over the years to win national championships. Rupp, Hall, Pitino, Tubby & Calipari. When Calipari retires UK will hire another great coach & win another national championship. It's like the Kentucky basketball program is on automatic pilot. It just keeps on keeping on.

 

[IU? I'm Fine]

You say that UK basketball will die when Calipari leaves. KENTUCKY has had 5 that's right 5 different head coaches over the years to win national championships. Rupp, Hall, Pitino, Tubby & Calipari. When Calipari retires UK will hire another great coach & win another national championship. It's like the Kentucky basketball program is on automatic pilot. It just keeps on keeping on.

Wat Shot! UK now refuses to play IU.

watalaff

 

[jsig]

Those UK folks are using their incredible reading skills and detective work. Missed the period and ate the bait. LOL

 

[hookyIU1990]

Those UK folks are using their incredible reading skills and detective work. Missed the period and ate the bait. LOL

You'd think they would know about missed periods from dating their sisters and cousins.

 

[MrBing]

Well its been a min since UK has had any issues or violations. What about your school, how long since last little mess up. Nothing wrong with wanting your program to be like UKs at this time. Its a respectable fun exciting type of program to have. Save the Rupp racist Cal two vacated blah blah blah. I got your long letter years ago. Talk about a obssesed guy with time on his hands, IU scott your no different then this PU guy , with a obssesion and to much time on your hands.

UK program might be OK but their fans suck.

 

[i'vegotwinners]

But there is already an Indiana Sucks thread. Feel free to share your thoughts there. Oh, and don't bother rooting for Kentucky.... We don't need the negativity and bad luck. Thanks.

https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/as-a-hoosier-im-jealous-of-your-program.286330/

This is the thread you should post on @HoosierJimbo89 instead of creating new threads.

https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/...hen-indiana-sucks.110640/page-43#post-7548027

HoosierJimbo 89 is a Russian operative.

first they're backing Trump, now UK.

 

[Egg Shen]

Busted

 

[fpeaugh]

You say that UK basketball will die when Calipari leaves. KENTUCKY has had 5 that's right 5 different head coaches over the years to win national championships. Rupp, Hall, Pitino, Tubby & Calipari. When Calipari retires UK will hire another great coach & win another national championship. It's like the Kentucky basketball program is on automatic pilot. It just keeps on keeping on.

Unfortunately this is true. UK will do what it takes. They won’t hire Tom Crean or Archie Miller. I can assure you that.

 

[IU Scott]

Unfortunately this is true. UK will do what it takes. They won’t hire Tom Crean or Archie Miller. I can assure you that.

So why did they hire Gilespie because he was no better than Crean. What was funny before they hired him Crean name came up for the UK job.

 

[fpeaugh]

So why did they hire Gilespie because he was no better than Crean. What was funny before they hired him Crean name came up for the UK job.

Gillispie was Big 12 COY 3 times in 4-5 years at AM. He was a pretty big name.

And then they fixed that after 2 years. Something we should do as well. But we refuse to learn from others.

 

[fpeaugh]

Archie Miller would get fired after this year at UK. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. He’d be toast.

But at IU let’s be paaatttieennntttt because we found one or two examples in all of history to show a coach could start slow and succeed. Throw out the other hundreds of examples.

 

[IU Scott]

Gillispie was Big 12 COY 3 times in 4-5 years at AM. He was a pretty big name.

And then they fixed that after 2 years. Something we should do as well. But we refuse to learn from others.

Just because UK does something does not mean it is the right thing to do and something that IU needs to do. Since they use to pay their players and got the death penalty does not mean we need to do the same thing. If you like the UK model go to their message boards and become a member of the Big Blue nation because you would fit right in.

 

[IU Scott]

Archie Miller would get fired after this year at UK. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. He’d be toast.

But at IU let’s be paaatttieennntttt because we found one or two examples in all of history to show a coach could start slow and succeed. Throw out the other hundreds of examples.

Because UK would do it does not mean it is the right thing to do. Also it is more than a couple of coaches that started slowly that turned it around in years 3 or 4.

 

[fpeaugh]

Just because UK does something does not mean it is the right thing to do and something that IU needs to do. Since they use to pay their players and got the death penalty does not mean we need to do the same thing. If you like the UK model go to their message boards and become a member of the Big Blue nation because you would fit right in.

Way too much invested in IU.

 

[Wall2Boogie]

So why did they hire Gilespie because he was no better than Crean. What was funny before they hired him Crean name came up for the UK job.

Bcg was an awful hire but a hot commodity at the time. He had just been to the elite 8 and was up and coming. Is problem was is attitude sucked, he was a drunk, and treated his players like shit. His halftime interviews didn’t help much either. Mitch failed miserably with that hire. Offering scholarships to 7th graders didn’t help either. We were lucky enough to see the writing on the wall before it got worse. Crean was creepy yes but kept his nose clean for the most part which is why Indiana kept him around longer. Plus he was 10 times the recruiter than bcg.

 

[Wall2Boogie]

Archie Miller would get fired after this year at UK. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. He’d be toast.

But at IU let’s be paaatttieennntttt because we found one or two examples in all of history to show a coach could start slow and succeed. Throw out the other hundreds of examples.

Not sure he would be fired, but the seat would be mighty hot

 

[IU Scott]

Bcg was an awful hire but a hot commodity at the time. He had just been to the elite 8 and was up and coming. Is problem was is attitude sucked, he was a drunk, and treated his players like shit. His halftime interviews didn’t help much either. Mitch failed miserably with that hire. Offering scholarships to 7th graders didn’t help either. We were lucky enough to see the writing on the wall before it got worse. Crean was creepy yes but kept his nose clean for the most part which is why Indiana kept him around longer. Plus he was 10 times the recruiter than bcg.

So are you saying he was fired for more of the off the court stuff and if that was not a problem then they wouldn't have fired him just off of his record

 

[Wall2Boogie]

So are you saying he was fired for more of the off the court stuff and if that was not a problem then they wouldn't have fired him just off of his record

It was a combination of everything. There are horror stories of the way he tried to pick up on all women out in public. He treated players like they were garbage. When Meeks scored 54 instead of embracing it he came up with this isn’t the university of Jodie Meeks like a total dick. He locked josh harrelson in a stall and said that’s where shit belongs. He offered kids that had zero business getting scholarships to d2 schools much less uk. Alcohol played a huge role in his demise and the arrogance he had as though he was the greatest ever because he coached Kentucky made it worse. He never had time for the media and when he did he treated them like complete shit. Some of this would of been overlooked had he won but, I’m glad he didn’t and everyone saw his true colors. Just an awful hire. He would ask women if they had ever slept with a uk coach as a pick up line. Complete douchebag. I think even if he would of won, his actions would of did him in because kids wouldn’t want their kid playing for him

 

[502 Wildcat]

I think UK will die as soon as Calipari retires.

You never know, college basketball itself could die by the time Cal retires.

Assuming that doesn't happen, the odds aren't in favor of what you suggest.

Rupp -> Hall -> Sutton (disaster at UK, but ended up a successful coach) - Pitino -> Tubby -> Gillispie (disaster) -> Calipari

UK, historically, doesn't stay down for long.

Indiana has been in a very long lull but at some point I think you guys will find the right person.

 

[CHAPDAV3]

UK program might be OK but their fans suck.

I can agree and probably have a reasonable conversation about sports with you.

 

[sk73]

Just because UK does something does not mean it is the right thing to do and something that IU needs to do. Since they use to pay their players and got the death penalty does not mean we need to do the same thing. If you like the UK model go to their message boards and become a member of the Big Blue nation because you would fit right in.

When did UK get the death penalty? You just made that up.

 

[hondo314]

Archie Miller would get fired after this year at UK. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. He’d be toast.

But at IU let’s be paaatttieennntttt because we found one or two examples in all of history to show a coach could start slow and succeed. Throw out the other hundreds of examples.

naaah, they would kept him if he had made the tourney his last year. him being a drunken POS probably didn't help much either.

i agree that UK will always act faster than IU (and all but 1 or 2 schools) but your Billy Clyde argument is weak.

 

[IU Scott]

When did UK get the death penalty? You just made that up.

Google is you friend, because it was very easy to find this article

In 1952, long before the concept of a repeat violator had surfaced, the NCAA imposed its first-ever de facto death penalty on one of the most illustrious programs in any sport: the University of Kentucky basketball team.
Kentucky had won the national championship in both 1948 and 1949, going a combined 68-5 under legendary head coach Adolph Rupp. Seven of those Wildcats were selected in the NBA draft, including Alex Groza who was the second overall pick in 1949 and the rookie of the year.


Two years later, Groza and two of his Kentucky teammates were arrested for having shaved points in a 1949 postseason game. A judge singled out Rupp and the university administration for "covert subsidization of players, cribbing at examinations, illegal recruiting, matriculation of unqualified students and demoralization of the athletes by the coach. In other words, everything we've come to expect from big-time college sports in the ensuing decades.


The NCAA banned Kentucky from fielding a basketball team for the 1952-53 season, and banned the school's other sports teams from postseason play. Meanwhile, the NBA commissioner barred the offending players for life, which cost Groza a chance at a Hall of Fame career. Somewhere between irony and coincidence, 60 years later Kentucky is the defending NCAA Division I basketball champion. The current coach hasn't been charged with any violations, but is bemoaned by his contemporaries for gaming the system and exploiting players, six of whom, in an eerie parallel, were selected in this year's NBA draf

 

[sk73]

Google is you friend, because it was very easy to find this article

In 1952, long before the concept of a repeat violator had surfaced, the NCAA imposed its first-ever de facto death penalty on one of the most illustrious programs in any sport: the University of Kentucky basketball team.
Kentucky had won the national championship in both 1948 and 1949, going a combined 68-5 under legendary head coach Adolph Rupp. Seven of those Wildcats were selected in the NBA draft, including Alex Groza who was the second overall pick in 1949 and the rookie of the year.


Two years later, Groza and two of his Kentucky teammates were arrested for having shaved points in a 1949 postseason game. A judge singled out Rupp and the university administration for "covert subsidization of players, cribbing at examinations, illegal recruiting, matriculation of unqualified students and demoralization of the athletes by the coach. In other words, everything we've come to expect from big-time college sports in the ensuing decades.


The NCAA banned Kentucky from fielding a basketball team for the 1952-53 season, and banned the school's other sports teams from postseason play. Meanwhile, the NBA commissioner barred the offending players for life, which cost Groza a chance at a Hall of Fame career. Somewhere between irony and coincidence, 60 years later Kentucky is the defending NCAA Division I basketball champion. The current coach hasn't been charged with any violations, but is bemoaned by his contemporaries for gaming the system and exploiting players, six of whom, in an eerie parallel, were selected in this year's NBA draf

You are right evidently. I guess UK should have stopped playing basketball at that time. There is no way that anyone can correct mistakes and create a well run program even if they do hire a former NCAA officer. That person has watched over the program since 1989, necessitated by the Emory package blamed on Dwayne Casey. No issues since then. But I can see why you will continue to bring up UK and cheating since it was only 6 and a half decades ago that the one season ban was given.

 

[cyanide_78]

No thank you because I don't my program built on one and done players

Lol. You got something against winning?

 

[IU Scott]

Lol. You got something against winning?

No but Villanova and UNC have proven you don't need one and done to win championships

 

[Wall2Boogie]

No but Villanova and UNC have proven you don't need one and done to win championships

True, but they have had upperclassmen that were high 4 star players mixed in with mcds all Americans. I think ole Roy does his best to have guys stay more than one yr when they probably should of left. Jay Wright is a hell of a coach, he is getting low 5 star guys that are mcds all Americans. The difference between them and Kentucky is they don’t preach the oad method while that’s what cal has done to build his brand. Quinery is wanting out of nova because he wanted to be oad and that’s not going to happen. Ole roy just buys em all cokes and moon pies to stick around. They both are good at getting guys who can play but aren’t quite oad players. That’s something I wish cal would change up, but kids come to ky to live that OAD dream

 

[RogerIndy]

Why would any IU fan want to be like UK and their cheating history.

You may not like UK, which is your right, but when was the last time they received major sanctions from the NCAA? (Answer: 1989) When was the last time your program got major sanctions from the NCAA? (Answer: 2008)

Now, I know what you are thinking: "But Kentucky cheats all of the time and doesn't get caught." Well, sir, I would invite you take whatever evidence you have to 700 W. Washington St in Indianapolis (NCAA HQ).