Your response was just story telling from the last century. Nobody here claims to have more knowledge than Woody. What we see is what we are questioning.Ulrey and BSmitty unlike either of you I will own up to my mistakes. I did not get any response to this. I have never held myself up as an expert or being more knowledgeable than Coach Woodson. I am a passionate Hoosier fan and graduate, season ticket holder for three sports, cheer all Hoosier teams and even have time to not hate ND because of my connections there. Just as another reference for that beer and discussion my mother-in-law had ND football season tickets for 62 years and retired from ND. My brother in laws in the original stadium painted the markings on the seats to shrink them from 18" to 12" to increase seating capacity.