Good job washed up old grandpa
- Thread starter Vern Pain
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You joking right?
Purdue starts 3 Sr and 2 So. Another Sr So and RS Fr off bench.
Until X returned which was when all the criticism was happening
IU started 1 Sr, 2 So, 2 Fr. Another Sr, 2 So off bench.
In what world does that look like similarly experienced teams? With X back it’s closer but we are playing 5 of 8 primary rotation players are truw freahmen and sophomores. Purdue plays zero true freshman and 4 second year players in their rotation.
Without X we were incredibly young. With him we are still young but adding another Sr to the starting lineup is huge.
Purdue techincally starts a 5th yr (Jones), Sr (Edey), R-So (TKR who turns 22 this calendar year), and two true sophomores (Smith and Loyer). But they are vastly experienced coming off the bench. Gillis (5th yr), Morton (Sr), and Furst (Jr) have all made over 100 combined starts and R-Fr Heide plays some. Colvin is starting to lose favor in the rotation but the only true freshman out of the bunch that plays.
Purdue is not only older across the board but vastly more experienced to the point it's not remotely comparable.
Were they last year though when the won the BIG, BIG tourney and were a one seed?
Their youth was on full display when they were swept by a veteran IU squad and dog walked by a team full of D2 mercenaries in an historic loss.
Regardless, they still were a 1 seed, won both BIG championships. Fully happy they lost in tourney. Just saying they did have success with that squad last year.
When you play the top of the BIG once and the bottom twice, you should win the conference if you have any chops.
Is the season over yet? Are we done? Should I judge you as a ref at halftime? Or after a few games? Or should you be judged on your body of work for the season?
Everybody here wants IU to win. Most recognize building championship teams is an art form and is very rarely accomplished in a couple years.
Now, having said that, a loss tonight could only be taken as a negative indicator for where we are right now with Woodson.
Yes, you have also been around forever and respect your opinions. My opinion is just opinion you are correct. He has just projected as an expert on the ills of Indiana Basketball, and it just rubs me the wrong way. I loved reading RMK's (POSTER) analysis but did not like some of the cult. Bob Knight was our coach and supported him to the hilt to all my friends. I was in school with Mike Woodson the same 4 years so I am a little biased towards giving him a chance to repair the culture in today's world that you and I enjoyed from Knight's first year and at least through the 1993 team that should have won a national championship but Henderson's injury and Ted Valentine were death to us. Our senior year 1979-80 Woodson had back surgery and missed most of the Big Ten season but came back for the last 8 games and led us to a Big Ten Championship on March 2, 1980, over Clark Kellogg and OSU Bucknuts . My 21st birthday was March 1st, and I had a terrible hangover sitting in the first row of the balcony for that game but was going nuts during and after the game.
Woodson was my favorite player during my IU days and truly believe whether he is a good coach or not deserves at least 5 years to rebuild Indiana basketball's culture and put his own spin on it in today's environment. My humble opinion in today's environment the NIL just makes things that went on since college sports started is at least a little more transparent, but I would not want to coach and have to manage the turnover.
Thanks for calling me out I try to be mostly positive but believe I see this current teams' warts. The coach is making a lot of money, so he is fair game, but I am a 24/7 IU grad and sports fan.
Doesn’t 🤷🏼♂️. Also do you only talk in code or do you have some context?
I know the Ahia game was a disappointment for you. Better day for you
Sparks was MAC FOY.
Ware played in 35 games as a frosh at Oregon; 4 starts. Averaged 16mpg
MR isn't the only sophomore to have a full year of game experience.
So what if X has missed games. He's a 6rh year senior. Are we talking experience, as you suggested. Or moving goalpost?
Purdues starting backcourt are two sophomores. IU is consist of two seniors(although TG is a Jr in eligibility).
Which one do you want?
This argument is stupid. You dont have to justify yourself to anyone on a message board. Fk em.
I had a similar path to my sports fandoms. I was also an athlete who wasnt recruited by IU, so I didnt go there. Still, nobody loves IU basketball more than I do.
Seeing an ND game in South Bend as an 11 year old leaves an indelible mark on a guy. Haters gonna hate.
We have gone through this cycle before and we are already starting the usual fourth year grasping at straws stage.
At 51, I seriously wonder if I will ever witness another FF----much less a title.
Unreal how far this program has fallen.
I know who could fic it----
Bruce mutherfukin Pearl.
Woodson is not the answer of returning IU to the roots of RMK. And why?
Because their basketball philosophies could not be further apart. Nothing MW does coaching wise, X/O wise, is remotely close to what he learned , while playing for Knight.
AS for culture----What culture is it you speak of? Please don't say, "Indiana kids...."----And look, kids don't care about the "front of the jesrsey stuff.."----They just don't.
Woodson system is not built for the college game. unless...………………..you have the talent to do so. He doesn't. Had it last year----does not this year---Nor in Year one. His substitution patterns are hideous----again, built for the NBA. Know why it works in the NBA? Well because EVERYONE does it. Name me ONE coach in CBB today, that subs in a similar fashion. I can tell you.
None. Why? Because it does not work. Not in college. Not unless you can get the other coach to agree to play his 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th man, at the same time yo do. Yeah, not gonna happen.
I like Woody. But its becoming more and more apparent he is not the answer.
