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Goat's POLS Thread for Mature Adults

I read your posts on this site. I really don’t need your life story to know exactly where you come from.
One doesn’t need to have detassled corn 50 years only to have forgotten where they came from.
On the working thing, Biden has taken the lead in Erie County PA and Allentown PA. Those are blue communities.

Let me ask you, what does Trump know about workers? The man involved in hiring undocumented Poles to clear the site for Trump Tower?

The GOP has been actively anti-union. Find a Republican here that will say a good thing about unions.
 
You have your opportunity right here.

Do you believe that you want America as it was built?

Just answer and let's discuss.

I want American to follow the constitution.

All peoples are created equal.

Don’t bother answering.
 
The 'radical left' is neutered with a republican senate and now judicial.

What you are going to get is peace and calm.

How was it when Obama was president? I just remember calmness and a bull market with plummeting unemployment. The opposite of the bull in the China shop shitshow that we are seeing right now.

There's a reason why the market skyrocketed after Tuesday.

Also, I'm a Pete guy and I've felt the wrath of Bernie Bros (and IGW on here) but I never once believed that Bernie wants to destroy the country. In a nutshell he wants the working class better taken care of.

I've long said the main difference between a dem and a pub is dems want to go directly to the people and pubs want to go to the institutions and then the institutions will take care of the people.

The whole social welfare vs corporate welfare thing. They are both welfare, it's just who gets the tax base.

As a dem and as a fervent believer in capitalism (1996 Kelley grad), my issue is that the institutions can't cover everyone and it also suppresses entrepreneurship because we are so dependent on the institutions for things like Healthcare, etc.

See where I'm going here?

Anyway I'm not a Bernie guy. I get skittish at the cost of his social programs but I never for once has ever thought that he wants to destroy America.

Enjoyed your post. Thanks.
 
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by "as it was built", i assume you mean a racist sexist plutocracy where the leaders owned slaves, didn't allow women or blacks to vote, and didn't even allow those patriots who fought alongside Washington to vote if they weren't rich enough.

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Joe McCarthy, the leading political strategist in the US today, with no one else even close.

That’s not what meant. Bad choice of words on my part. Don’t bother answering.
 
I'm gonna tell you one more thing. We are both CPAs, so no chance you don't get numbers.

Your fraud allegations fall apart when you have a situation where the Republicans are going to pick up 8-10 seats nationwide in the House, while losing the popular vote via Trump by 4-5 points.

Tons of people voted Biden (or non Trump) and then voted R down ballot. At the same time, big Trumpers voted all R. So he had big coattails, but then lost it for himself as he's an asshole.

Just run the numbers in any suburb and get thinking straight. Trump will lose PA not because of Philly %.. but he dropped off in philly burbs %.

Again, use your head and actually try to see what actually changed and you'll know why Trump lost. And quit posting nutty conspiracy shit


Tl/dr.. . There are enough people like @twenty02 that turned the election

Thanks for the response. I still believe there’s fraud in the election.
 
It normally is a strength. We're the only country that could have possibly endured Watergate, and then watched it end peacefully as the President rode off into the sunset. No tanks. No helicopters flying around. No curfews. That was America.

I'm not sure we still have that strength.
The difference is: Nixon still cared about this country. If Trump ran against Nixon instead of Biden, I would vote for Nixon.
 
And what’s happening in nc. Following senate race and it’s been stuck at 93 percent for days. I’ve had more than a dozen movements in the last day and a half. Nc has had none

They said they'll have no updates until like the 12th or something. Per state law, absentee ballots can come in until then..... with an election day, or prior postmark.

So I'd quit bothering to check and maybe eat some bananas.
 
You should resign as a moderator.
relax stoll. as long as the pubs hold the senate this was a really good election. harris and the even scarier part of the left won't get a single thing of any moment done. pubs picked up more seats in the house sending a message that all the scary buzz words from the summer fell largely on deaf ears. the chief that has brought so much divisiveness and anxiety to the country is out and replaced by an old goat that'll have a calming hand and likely do very little. i'm sure he feels like he accomplished everything he needed to accomplish literally just by winning and ousting trump. everyone should be happy. we're poised to have a nice, quiet four years while we regroup.
 
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The difference is: Nixon still cared about this country. If Trump ran against Nixon instead of Biden, I would vote for Nixon.

I do not know if conversations are happening behind the scenes, they might well be. Goldwater led a delegation to Nixon and told him it was over. Maybe people like McConnell have called Trump and asked him to town it down? It is possible. But since Trump hasn't launched a Twitter war against McConnell I am doubting it.
 
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Give it a rest Stoll. It appears to me that you can dish it but certainly cant take it.
You are acting like some cry baby snowflake now.

You and I give and take. Goat’s a moderator. In one his normal late night drunken stupors he has no business as a moderator calling someone a ****ing asshole.
 
Thanks for the response. I still believe there’s fraud in the election.
Based on what? T.rump? Giuliani? Ric Grenell? Butthurt?

The only "proof" you offered, about GOP poll watchers being turned away, was shot down by 3 different articles. If you have anything else, other than your feelz, let's see it.
 
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Thanks for the response. I still believe there’s fraud in the election.

Then you are in tin foil hat kooky pants land. Sit down and map out how this “fraud” would need to work and how many people would be in on it. It’s frankly incredibly disrespectful to voters and the public servants counting those votes. Your guy is going to lose. Move on.
 
I've been the same. Put 4 miles in today already. Got to get the diet back. :oops:
nice!! i'm going to start today. tomorrow. it's been like a march madness week. pizza, wings, bbq and wayyyyyy too much booze. then on top of all if it my fing stoker's dog ate tylenol
 
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nice!! i'm going to start today. tomorrow. it's been like a march madness week. pizza, wings, bbq and wayyyyyy too much booze. then on top of all if it my fing stoker's dog ate tylenol

Cut the booze and you will realise how easy it is to lose weight. You need to have the attitude that you need to earn your food. Or you exercise like feck. (I can burn like 2500 to 3400 calories each session of exercise I do.)
 
31% of Americans believe in ghosts. And 2% believe the earth is flat.

I am not in the 2%. The ghosts I am not sure. About 15 years ago I was at my office. I noticed a hornets nest. I stupidly tried to get rid of it myself. I was stung by one. I’d never had issue with stings. My younger brother who was killed in an auto accident at age 32, nearly died of honey bee sting at around age 10. Anyway, after the hornet sting I went upstairs in my office. Got to feeling dizzy so I laid on my couch. For some reason I thought about my brother. I got up and made it half way down my stairway and passed out. My staff got me to a car and the hospital a few blocks away. The Hospital Chaplin met my wife when she arrived and told her they didn’t think I was going to make it. I’ve always wondered why I thought of my brother when I was a few seconds from dying on my office couch if I hadn’t got up and started down the stairs. Certainly wasn’t tapped on the shoulder by my brother’s ghost. Who knows why I thought of him a few seconds from death.
 
Brian Cardinal. In thinking about a comparison to Trump, that is my answer. There are a lot of players in sports that the fans of that team LOVE, but everyone else HATES. Brian Cardinal was that player most of us will remember. Trump worked hard to taunt his opponents. His people love him for that. But it made it awful hard for the rest.

I made a post elsewhere, getting the 45% to turn out in record numbers to vote can work, but you can't entirely drive the 55% to unadulterated hatred. Trump made that mistake.
 
Brian Cardinal. In thinking about a comparison to Trump, that is my answer. There are a lot of players in sports that the fans of that team LOVE, but everyone else HATES. Brian Cardinal was that player most of us will remember. Trump worked hard to taunt his opponents. His people love him for that. But it made it awful hard for the rest.

I made a post elsewhere, getting the 45% to turn out in record numbers to vote can work, but you can't entirely drive the 55% to unadulterated hatred. Trump made that mistake.


You’re correct but add that the media worked overtime to tilt the scales.
 
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