Goat's POLS Thread for Mature Adults
- Thread starter TheOriginalHappyGoat
- Start date
This is why I was hoping the count could be expedited quickly. The longer this goes on, the crazies will come out of the woodwork, especially with our statesmanlike President doing his best to destroy democracy.
I'm always optimistic. I actually believe our system of govt works. You're viewpoint is also very short-term
This country has been moving towards the laissez faire right for 40 years, more or less. At least at the Federal level. Even if the Overton window shifts back leftward, it's miles away from where it was prior to Reagan.
Bottom line. I wouldn't worry. You sound like my mother. Constant worry wart and we're one election away from being Venezuela. It's silly.
These guys are harmless. It's the guys on stand by who are ones that you should be concerned about. A stolen presidency is enough to trigger the militias.
Meanwhile,
I mentioned this earlier today..... but this was planned to look like this, intentionally via the state legislature.
He's only been foreshadowing this for months. He's a carnival barker and knows how to put on a show. It should surprise nobody, if they really cared to look at things objectively.
Or even without Florida, just Arizona being a bit more clear, and Nevada counting more than three ballots per hour.
You have your opportunity right here.
Do you believe that you want America as it was built?
Just answer and let's discuss.
Biden will win both, but AZ is always super slow, and it's close - as expected. And NV didn't have the infrastructure for the mail in ballot processing (nor do they seem to care)
FL is FL.
I know all that. I'm just saying, it wasn't ordained from upon high that PA had to be the deciding state.
Even though I actually predicted it several times. Truth is, I was being cynical. I didn't really think we were destined for this long drawn out thing.
I'm not sure there is a more horrible person on the right than Lou Dobbs. But this made me laugh.
Looks like a roughly 3-4 point nationally polling error.... in favor of Trump. If it had been Biden+8, it would have been over on election night. But the polls still suck (at least when it comes to Trump)
It looks like a lot of those errors are going to be very state-specific, too. In weird ways. I'm trying to find correlations, and no thank you. Polling industry definitely going to have to start from scratch.
by "as it was built", i assume you mean a racist sexist plutocracy where the leaders owned slaves, didn't allow women or blacks to vote, and didn't even allow those patriots who fought alongside Washington to vote if they weren't rich enough.
Joe McCarthy, the leading political strategist in the US today, with no one else even close.
I heard that Trump got more votes out of every single county in PA. It seems likely to me that polls struggled with his turnout. Much of Trump is a cult of personality. Like The Mule from the Foundation series, science is defied.
Ok IGW..... you've ragged on Biden forever. Did you end up voting for him? Seems like Trump should have been someone closer to your heart, since he's like the Republican Bernie
The 'radical left' is neutered with a republican senate and now judicial.
What you are going to get is peace and calm.
How was it when Obama was president? I just remember calmness and a bull market with plummeting unemployment. The opposite of the bull in the China shop shitshow that we are seeing right now.
There's a reason why the market skyrocketed after Tuesday.
Also, I'm a Pete guy and I've felt the wrath of Bernie Bros (and IGW on here) but I never once believed that Bernie wants to destroy the country. In a nutshell he wants the working class better taken care of.
I've long said the main difference between a dem and a pub is dems want to go directly to the people and pubs want to go to the institutions and then the institutions will take care of the people.
The whole social welfare vs corporate welfare thing. They are both welfare, it's just who gets the tax base.
As a dem and as a fervent believer in capitalism (1996 Kelley grad), my issue is that the institutions can't cover everyone and it also suppresses entrepreneurship because we are so dependent on the institutions for things like Healthcare, etc.
See where I'm going here?
Anyway I'm not a Bernie guy. I get skittish at the cost of his social programs but I never for once has ever thought that he wants to destroy America.
I'm gonna tell you one more thing. We are both CPAs, so no chance you don't get numbers.
Your fraud allegations fall apart when you have a situation where the Republicans are going to pick up 8-10 seats nationwide in the House, while losing the popular vote via Trump by 4-5 points.
Tons of people voted Biden (or non Trump) and then voted R down ballot. At the same time, big Trumpers voted all R. So he had big coattails, but then lost it for himself as he's an asshole.
Just run the numbers in any suburb and get thinking straight. Trump will lose PA not because of Philly %.. but he dropped off in philly burbs %.
Again, use your head and actually try to see what actually changed and you'll know why Trump lost. And quit posting nutty conspiracy shit
Tl/dr.. . There are enough people like @twenty02 that turned the election
Last edited:
I don’t remember McConnells quote, I’m too lazy to look it up, you’d have to site your example, but unfortunately your example isn’t apples to apples.
These checks and balances have always created tension-distance, especially within the political arena. Certainly there were many Americans that we opposed to Obama from day one.
But did the majority of US citizens openly accept and give Obama a chance after taking office, yes. Did the national media give Obama a chance from day one, of course that’s a yes.
We should also start having open discussions on how we handle elections/mail-in ballots, logistics of, and time restraints there within . Many states were not prepared, we knew this, the Democrats still pushed.
Don’t act surprised when the American people have lost all hope, trust in our “gold standard process”.
Dems had money in their stimulus bill that passed the House back in May to make this all go smoothly and there were law changes coming in MI/WI/PA until Trump whined about it and got the GOP in those states (who control their state legislatures) to block law changes to make it legal to start counting before Election Day.
DeJoy also screwing with the Post Office also caused a lot of issues.
I'm 100% in favor of federal law/$$$ so we get accurate, secure voting machines with a paper trail in every state, transparency, and speed up counting by allowing counties to count early/mail-ins before Election Day, and have been since 2000.
I read your posts on this site. I really don’t need your life story to know exactly where you come from.
One doesn’t need to have detassled corn 50 years only to have forgotten where they came from.
Let me ask you this, a lot of rural counties went 85-15 for Trump with record turnout. Have you heard Democrats say they rigged the election? Why is 85-15 Biden with record turnout proof something nefarious is happening?
In Indiana, the county election board has to unanimously agree on early voting sites and times. So in Republican counties like Hamilton, they setup vote centers everywhere. In Democratic places like Marion and Monroe, it was one location because the Republicans would not agree to more. Marion finally had a court step in and order a couple more, but they were limited in days open. One, St Luke, had 8 hour waits. Why do Republicans like that? It just seems Republicans get giddy at the idea of long lines in cities. So yes, we need to make voting more convenient. To borrow a Republican poster's analogy, we can put a Voyager 1 outside the solar system but we cannot find a way to make voting easy and convenient?
where are you hearing that? The GOP candidate refuses to concede to Gary Peters was the last report.
Georgia update: In the presidential race, Biden now leads by about 1000 votes, with maybe 10,000 more votes to count, half of which are from Gwinnett County.
Military absentee votes have to arrive by 5 pm today to be counted.
It ain't over here . . . and might not be until next week.
Looks like I was wrong on the Perdue/Ossoff race, as it might be up for a runoff too. https://www.11alive.com/article/new...ssoff/85-de5e9df9-b64d-4682-9b9a-190314a4f9e9. Pundits here are calling both runoff races as turnout races, as GOP candidates have tended to win those because GOP voters have historically been more diligent about runoffs than Democratic voters here. With two races, and Warnock in one of them . . . well, that makes for an interesting dynamic, at least.
My sense is that having two senate races on the ballot will favor both Loeffler and Perdue because of the tendency of some Democratic voters not to turn out. Support for Warnock is the wild card here . . . who knows what effect that will have? Plus, who will the votes that went to Shane Hazel (I) go to? Are those are likely to stay home? Break for Dems? Break for GOP? Who knows . . . .
Military absentee votes have to arrive by 5 pm today to be counted.
It ain't over here . . . and might not be until next week.
Looks like I was wrong on the Perdue/Ossoff race, as it might be up for a runoff too. https://www.11alive.com/article/new...ssoff/85-de5e9df9-b64d-4682-9b9a-190314a4f9e9. Pundits here are calling both runoff races as turnout races, as GOP candidates have tended to win those because GOP voters have historically been more diligent about runoffs than Democratic voters here. With two races, and Warnock in one of them . . . well, that makes for an interesting dynamic, at least.
My sense is that having two senate races on the ballot will favor both Loeffler and Perdue because of the tendency of some Democratic voters not to turn out. Support for Warnock is the wild card here . . . who knows what effect that will have? Plus, who will the votes that went to Shane Hazel (I) go to? Are those are likely to stay home? Break for Dems? Break for GOP? Who knows . . . .
Yeah . . . let it go . . . he needs to vent and you happened to be handy. That kettle whistles when it gets hot . . . .
There were multiple posts over the past week or so, including a few by you Goat, excusing his posts. “He’s really a decent guy, but ...”. It was a nice gesture, but the reality has always been that he’s an assh____. F_ck him.
Similar threads
Latest posts
-
-
Reports: Mike Woodson considering retirement at end of 2024-25 season- Latest: Big Red Crimson Buffalo
-
-
-