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Actually, if you go back and read the reports carefully, ESPN.com actually got it right (shocking!). It was Florio who F'd it up, which is not surprising, but disappointing considering he's purple and gold through and through.Yes, apparently NFL.com and espn.com incorrectly implicated the Vikings, because the Panthers were doing it, oddly, on the Vikings sidelines.
Both teams were warned, but Minnesota's warning was to prevent it from happening.
My apologies for passing on this misinformation, which was finally corrected for the first time in any media report just 12 days ago, many months after it was widely reported:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/14/actually-vikings-didnt-warm-footballs-in-november/
Minnesota ranks below average in NFL cheating rankings, well below more prolific cheaters such as the Colts:
http://yourteamcheats.com/cheaters/
Florio wouldnt screw up something like that...he write for NBC...they have standards!!!!!Actually, if you go back and read the reports carefully, ESPN.com actually got it right (shocking!). It was Florio who F'd it up, which is not surprising, but disappointing considering he's purple and gold through and through.
Very strict standards. If you lie about which helicopter you are in, fired-err-suspended for six months. If you report sports, you just have to make sure you spell things correctly some of the time.Florio wouldnt screw up something like that...he write for NBC...they have standards!!!!!
Oh, and I'm absolutely shocked I haven't seen Cramer post this yet:
Don't try to defend yourself with technicalities. You sound like OS. You dropped the horse ball.Technically there's no beating of the horse occuring there. The horse I would imagine was not beaten before the beheading and I would doubt very much that the horse would have been beaten post-mortem.
So no beating of a dead horse can either be seen implicitly or inferred in this case and thus the image does not fit the strict standards set in place to be used in the posting of a "beating a dead horse" image.
You're literally clueless.I found it
Don't try to defend yourself with technicalities. You sound like OS. You dropped the horse ball.
Actually, if you go back and read the reports carefully, ESPN.com actually got it right (shocking!).
"deflation" issues with the Pats since 2003.
It ACTUALLY dates back to 1960, with the first cold weather game in New England.
There have been similar under-pressurization issues in places like Buffalo, Chicago, Green Bay, but oddly not in ANY domed stadiums.
This was noted by your source, Colts ballboy Cletus Clyde, who pressure-checked an ice cold Patriots football in Foxboro in 2003:
His brother Clovus Clyde told him:
"Hold on there Cletus Clyde, it just might be low a-cause-da dis dolgarn-ded cold weather"
To which Cletus (internet name = "Moops") replied:
"Clovus Clyde, I ain't a-buyin' yer newfangled sciencey idears. Next thing yer a-gonna tell me bout EEEE-VO-LU-shun and say dat dinersoars wuz REAL. Preacher VanPasterMan sez dat they AIN'T real a-tall. I'm a-gonna tell big Jimmy I. bout this, next time I DEE-liver him some fresh crack"
Clovus:
"Cletus Clyde, you shoulda leanrt more in Miss LeBouf's science class. You wuz just starin' at her bazongas and not payin' no 'tension a-tall to whut she was a-sayin."
Cletus:
"Dem SHORE wuz some fine boobies, dey were. But she spake with the tongue of the devil! VanPasterMan says so, and he ain't never wrong, ceptin' when he is"
You deflect as well as Tom Brady deflates. And you have literally no idea what you're talking about. But that's old news.It ACTUALLY dates back to 1960, with the first cold weather game in New England.
There have been similar under-pressurization issues in places like Buffalo, Chicago, Green Bay, but oddly not in ANY domed stadiums.
This was noted by your source, Colts ballboy Cletus Clyde, who pressure-checked an ice cold Patriots football in Foxboro in 2003:
His brother Clovus Clyde told him:
"Hold on there Cletus Clyde, it just might be low a-cause-da dis dolgarn-ded cold weather"
To which Cletus (internet name = "Moops") replied:
"Clovus Clyde, I ain't a-buyin' yer newfangled sciencey idears. Next thing yer a-gonna tell me bout EEEE-VO-LU-shun and say dat dinersoars wuz REAL. Preacher VanPasterMan sez dat they AIN'T real a-tall. I'm a-gonna tell big Jimmy I. bout this, next time I DEE-liver him some fresh crack"
Clovus:
"Cletus Clyde, you shoulda leanrt more in Miss LeBouf's science class. You wuz just starin' at her bazongas and not payin' no 'tension a-tall to whut she was a-sayin."
Cletus:
"Dem SHORE wuz some fine boobies, dey were. But she spake with the tongue of the devil! VanPasterMan says so, and he ain't never wrong, ceptin' when he is"
you have literally no idea what you're talking about.
Wells report page 70 said:The pressure of the Patriots ball that had been intercepted by the Colts was separately tested three times and the measurements—11.45, 11.35 and 11.75 psi, respectively—were written on athletic tape that had been placed on the ball for identification.
Wells report page 40 of the Exponent supplement said:...using the most likely pressure and temperature values for the Patriots game balls on the day of the AFC Championship Game (i.e., a starting pressure of 12.5 psig, a starting temperature of between 67 and 71°F and a final temperature of 48°F prior to the balls being taken back into the Officials Locker Room), these equations predict that the Patriots balls should have measured between 11.52 and 11.32 psig at the end of the first half, just before they were brought back into the Officials Locker Room.
Oh, geez. You're such a nebbish, which is okay, but you're an ignorant nebbish. That's just ..... sad.Dinosaurs existed
Evolution is real
The ideal gas law is actually a valid approximation of reality
I understand these things, Billy Joe Bob. You struggle. But that's old news.
OS, this will help with your "I'm a moran" skills.
you and your bro with get over it, ovaltine
I only deal in facts. The facts are that the Patriots have the two highest fines for cheating in NFL history.
There are more then monetary fines.
Again, Tom calls you trophy head, doesn't he? I'm sure he gets a look at that view. A lot. A whole lot.Sure, but you said "the Patriots have the two highest fines for cheating in NFL history", you stupid dumbass. YOU WERE WRONG!
If you want to go elsewhere, DeBartolo has been kept out of the NFL for 15 years now, after the felony conviction. He hopes to return someday, though: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...ill-fancies-nfl-return-in-the-right-situation
Sure, but you said "the Patriots have the two highest fines for cheating in NFL history", you stupid dumbass. YOU WERE WRONG!
If you want to go elsewhere, DeBartolo has been kept out of the NFL for 15 years now, after the felony conviction. He hopes to return someday, though: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...ill-fancies-nfl-return-in-the-right-situation
Name another team accused of cheating so often in the Brady years.
Better analogy:The best deflategate analogy:
You were clocked by cop #1, going 62 mph in a 60 mph zone.
But cop #2 clocked you going 58 mph in a 60 mph zone.
Neither one locked in the number, but "they remember those results, clearly".
You are then arrested, taken to court, the drunk judge fines you a month's pay, puts you in jail for 4 weeks, and you also lose your car for good.
They claim that cop #2's radar obviously was not working right, or that maybe his memory was just plain faulty. #1 was good, though. Trust them.
The main issue is that one of your friends often calls you "speedy".
Your boss has drinks with the judge and "reluctantly" tells you it will be better for everyone if you just accept all of the penalties. Immediately. Or else.
Ummmmmm......several omissions...
Team A, known widely as paranoid whiners, warns MLB that Team B's famous slugger Player C may have a corked bat. When asked how they know this, they cannot say. They cite "general chatter". MLB execs ignore the complaint, but an MLB employee whose ex-wife is married to the slugger wants to "take up this noble cause".
At a game, the MLB employee whose ex-wife is married to the slugger confiscates the bats. He weighs them using an official scale, and they come in at exactly at the right weight. Confused, he looks for another scale and finds an old rusty one. It reads 0.1 oz. too low, with an error of plus or minus 0.5 oz. He shouts AHA!
He is furious and burns up the bats while muttering his ex-wife's name.
He realizes he may have screwed up, but he still insists that MLB throw the book at "the cheaters". With all of the evidence destroyed and with no written-down bat weights, the MLB president decides to press on after he remembers that his sister had once been dumped by the slugger.
During the investigation, MLB finds one text message exchange between two equipment handlers about Player C complaining to the equipment managers about how they had allowed a crooked gambling umpire to stock his bat rack with bats that were in fact so heavy that they were completely illegal to use, and how he hated them so much that he went 1-for-5 and his team had barely won.
In a text from the previous season, the MLB president scores his big GOTCHA MOMENT-- One of the equipment handlers calls himself "Corky." MLB ignores that the equipment manager is president of a wine club, and ignores in particular another text from him that said "Tell your sister to come on over and Corky will open a nice Chardonnay!"
Team B and Player C are called cheaters, the two guys are fired, and the player is suspended for 41 games.
Why not?Ummmmmm......
No.
I don't know any of that.Why not?
You do know that the leader of the investigation was Mike Kensil, son of the former Jets president, a guy who hired Bill Belichick as head coach for a hour, after which time Belichick resigned, after which the team president (his Dad) was fired?
You do know that the first thing Mike Kensil did after halftime was to run to the Patriots sideline with a chit-eating grin, yelling "you effers are so effing busted. We weighed (sic) the footballs at halftime" (curiously, you don't 'weigh" pressure)
You do know that Chris Mortensen's false report that 11 of 12 footballs were deflated by 2 psi was accompanied by an on-air comment from Mortensen that the NFL had "weighed" footballs at halftime, suggesting that Kensil had fed him this all-important lie that 11, rather then zero, footballs were 2 psi low.
You do know that Roger Goodell started off in the NFL as a Jets employee and co-worker of Mike Kensil?
It doesn't take a lot of people to pull off a gotcha exercise/frame job. Maybe just one guy- someone willing to lie and who is powerful/connected enough to make sure that nobody corrects his lie for over 3 months.