Get the straight jacket ready for Outside Shooter.
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Ha! You seriously read that and can't come to a conclusion? Suddenly Tom needs to speak to his equipment manager all the time, when they never spoke in previous months? You may need to wait for a confession from lying a Tommy, but the rest of us can figure it out. You have plenty of egg on your face and the entire Pats organization does too.
Actually, it is entirely enough to believe the Patriots cheated. Who else had control over the Patriots' footballs? Men from Mars?
And, why did Brady-all-smiles refuse to let the investigators review the texts on his cell phone?
For all of you that continue to keep poking the bear-tard.
Fack your couch. Every last one of you.
Fack your couch. Every last one of you.
Lmfao. He still can't just sack up and admit it. Even after reading the text messages of the 2 people responsible and the damning statement from Brady himself. smh What a complete nutjob.
Wells conclusion:
51/49 probability that somebody maybe possibly might have done something to affect the deflation of the footballs and Brady might have probably known about it !!
GREAT analysis by an overpaid lawyer....probably.
51/49 probability that somebody maybe possibly might have done something to affect the deflation of the footballs and Brady might have probably known about it !!
GREAT analysis by an overpaid lawyer....probably.
Come on, maaaaaannnnnn. It HAD to be discussed. It's just good clean fun. He could end it if he'd just admit that Brady cheated. As I pointed out, he helped it actually become a rule, which to me, makes it even more egregious.
Was NOT this:
Hate all you want, but the NFL is about to CLEAR the Pats
Of ANY WRONGDOING.
Because.... there was none.
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31 outside shooter, Jan 24, 2015
For somebody supposedly as intelligent as you are, if you can't EASILY see what was inferred in those texts, then you should just STFU so as to not draw attention to your own stupidity. Seriously.
No, actually more likely than not that the Patriots did it, not "somebody."
http://regressing.deadspin.com/the-...this-was-them-stating-thes-1702694833/+kylenw
statistician: The pressure data is actually much closer to expected results than the report implies and the lack of any data from other games should prevent any professional statistician from making the claims that are made in the report.
statistician: The pressure data is actually much closer to expected results than the report implies and the lack of any data from other games should prevent any professional statistician from making the claims that are made in the report.
Blah Blah Blah...
They did it...Brady knew about it...Cheatriots cheated again...
Blah Blah Blah...
They did it...Brady knew about it...Cheatriots cheated again...
Blah Blah Blah...
You read over 200 pages to defend "your" team on the Internet? You are insane.
Well I don't know that many Pat fans, but if you two are indicative, it's kind of an indictment of the whole group. It's basically been proven and Brady lied. And according to all your supposed inside information, they were going to be cleared. You're all looking more and more foolish by the minute.
FACTS to consider, all DIRECTLY from the Wells report:
1) The scientists hired to study the issue properly calculated the expected pressure drop that occurred due to temperature, assuming an inflation temperature and a halftime temperature. There result was that footballs will lose 1.13 psi in pressure due to the temperature drop.
2) The officials measured the drop in pressure of the Patriots footballs. Using one gauge they measured a drop of 1.39 psi. Using another gauge they measured 1.01 psi. Average: 1.20 psi.
3) We have no way of knowing which of the two gauges, used interchangeably, was used in the pregame analysis where they were set to 12.5 psi. Based upon the fact that one gauge always reads 0.4 psi below the other one, and that we don't know which one (if either) was accurate, then the Patriots footballs, pregame, may TRULY have been set at anywhere in the range of 12.1-12.9 psi.
4) The officials measured the drop in pressure four of the Colts footballs. Using one gauge they measured a drop of 0.37 psi. Using another gauge they measured 0.56 psi.
5) The drop in pressure of the Colts footballs is thus inconsistent with the valid scientific prediction that footballs will lose, 1.13 psi in pressure, just due to the temperature drop.
6) For some reason, the fact that the Colts footballs apparently did not obey the laws of physics has not, to this point, concerned anyone. It should. But it is easy to explain! The officials didn't even have time to test all of the Colts footballs because the 13-minute halftime was ending. The Colts footballs had been in the heated room for at least 10 minutes before they were ever tested. They warmed up, maybe halfway to room temperature, which would explain a measurement of about half of the drop that was expected: 1.13/2 = 0.515 psi.
7) The Colts partly warmed-up footballs were used as the "control" for the earlier-analyzed Patriots footballs. A huge degree of importance was placed into the fact that the difference in the drop in pressure of the Colts footballs vs. the drop in pressure of the Patriots footballs was statistically significant. The difference in the order in which the two groups of footballs were analyzed, as they were of course warming up toward room temperature, could fully account for this statistical significance, however.
8) The most puzzling evidence is the relatively higher variability of the Patriots footballs. That looks suspicious. But other possible explanations, such as that perhaps some footballs were used in a heavy downpour and some were not used at all, were never considered. They did not consider the "wet football factor" at all, for that matter.
9) Pressure gauges used by the refs varied in accuracy by about 0.4 psi. The Patriots footballs dropped in pressure in the range of 1.01-1.39 psi. This range encompasses the expected number, based only on temperature, of a 1.13 psi drop. The accuracy of the gauge is +0.4, so saying that 1.13 is truly different than 1.20 (or even 1.39) is shaky at best.
I do not see ANY scientific grounds for saying that the Patriots footballs were, on average, outside of expected norms, just based upon the data provided.
The scientific basis for such a serious accusation falls short of anywhere near the level of certainty that one would reasonably demand in order to issue a serious punishment, or any punishment at all, frankly.
^^^ every number and every issue discussed above is STRAIGHT from the Wells report.
1) The scientists hired to study the issue properly calculated the expected pressure drop that occurred due to temperature, assuming an inflation temperature and a halftime temperature. There result was that footballs will lose 1.13 psi in pressure due to the temperature drop.
2) The officials measured the drop in pressure of the Patriots footballs. Using one gauge they measured a drop of 1.39 psi. Using another gauge they measured 1.01 psi. Average: 1.20 psi.
3) We have no way of knowing which of the two gauges, used interchangeably, was used in the pregame analysis where they were set to 12.5 psi. Based upon the fact that one gauge always reads 0.4 psi below the other one, and that we don't know which one (if either) was accurate, then the Patriots footballs, pregame, may TRULY have been set at anywhere in the range of 12.1-12.9 psi.
4) The officials measured the drop in pressure four of the Colts footballs. Using one gauge they measured a drop of 0.37 psi. Using another gauge they measured 0.56 psi.
5) The drop in pressure of the Colts footballs is thus inconsistent with the valid scientific prediction that footballs will lose, 1.13 psi in pressure, just due to the temperature drop.
6) For some reason, the fact that the Colts footballs apparently did not obey the laws of physics has not, to this point, concerned anyone. It should. But it is easy to explain! The officials didn't even have time to test all of the Colts footballs because the 13-minute halftime was ending. The Colts footballs had been in the heated room for at least 10 minutes before they were ever tested. They warmed up, maybe halfway to room temperature, which would explain a measurement of about half of the drop that was expected: 1.13/2 = 0.515 psi.
7) The Colts partly warmed-up footballs were used as the "control" for the earlier-analyzed Patriots footballs. A huge degree of importance was placed into the fact that the difference in the drop in pressure of the Colts footballs vs. the drop in pressure of the Patriots footballs was statistically significant. The difference in the order in which the two groups of footballs were analyzed, as they were of course warming up toward room temperature, could fully account for this statistical significance, however.
8) The most puzzling evidence is the relatively higher variability of the Patriots footballs. That looks suspicious. But other possible explanations, such as that perhaps some footballs were used in a heavy downpour and some were not used at all, were never considered. They did not consider the "wet football factor" at all, for that matter.
9) Pressure gauges used by the refs varied in accuracy by about 0.4 psi. The Patriots footballs dropped in pressure in the range of 1.01-1.39 psi. This range encompasses the expected number, based only on temperature, of a 1.13 psi drop. The accuracy of the gauge is +0.4, so saying that 1.13 is truly different than 1.20 (or even 1.39) is shaky at best.
I do not see ANY scientific grounds for saying that the Patriots footballs were, on average, outside of expected norms, just based upon the data provided.
The scientific basis for such a serious accusation falls short of anywhere near the level of certainty that one would reasonably demand in order to issue a serious punishment, or any punishment at all, frankly.
^^^ every number and every issue discussed above is STRAIGHT from the Wells report.
I realized your goal in life is to suck Brady's dick, but do you realized that looking like an idiot is one of the consequences? Although maybe sucking Brady's dick is more important.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/fivethirtyeight-dissects-the-deflategate-report/
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/suspicious-texts-between-tom-brady-151219208.html
http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports
The Patriots knowingly and intentionally cheated again, it's what they do. You, like UK fans, are OK with this if you get the results you want.
Just admit it and stop making this board and site worse then it is. The 538 article goes into the science quit a bit. Either you are the smartest scientist evre to live, or you are a f'd up Pats fan that is afraid to admit the Pats are serial cheaters.
Not to mention there are the text messages which clearly demonstrate that Brady had asked them to deflate the footballs. Case over. Brady guilty. Pats guilty. Outside Shooter, the guy who told us that Brady was at his kid's graduation instead of the White House...which was proven to be a lie when it turned out Brady was at the Pats facility, now has zero credibility.
Am I the only one not surprised that the first "thread" in this new era to have more than 100 replies involves a Colts/Patriots dichotomy with outside shooter fully embedded within? I do have to say the appearance of New edubs was an interesting wrinkle, but yeah.. three pages of solid gold.
Yes, fact are relevant, but Patriots didn't win the three Super Bowls because Brady is "the best of all time." They won because Vinatieri us one of the best kckers of all time and Beluchick is a damn good coach.
To be fair, some of the replies are just re-posting some of our resident douche's greatest hits:
Hate all you want, but the NFL is about to CLEAR the Pats
Of ANY WRONGDOING.
Because.... there was none.
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31 outside shooter, Jan 24, 2015
That's never going to get old.
Pretty sure the word was that those in the know had already received the information (!of which OS clearly was one). Loose ends were just being tied up. Guess these 200 pages are the loose ends!
Just because you keep posting the same chit in multiple threads, doesn't make the cheating go away....
I am banned from posting about Thomas Kuntz, retired president of Sun Trust Bank.
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...florida-top-florida-executive-central-florida
or about soccer games played at Kuntz Memorial Soccer Stadium
https://www.facebook.com/KuntzMemorialSoccerStadium
or about Bill Kuntz, VP of Management recruiters of Indianapolis
http://www.mrindianapolis.com/refresh/templates/staff_profile.php?staff_id=43
I don't get some of these rules...
Kuntz is not a bad word. The last two above are each an Indianapolis Kuntz
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...florida-top-florida-executive-central-florida
or about soccer games played at Kuntz Memorial Soccer Stadium
https://www.facebook.com/KuntzMemorialSoccerStadium
or about Bill Kuntz, VP of Management recruiters of Indianapolis
http://www.mrindianapolis.com/refresh/templates/staff_profile.php?staff_id=43
I don't get some of these rules...
Kuntz is not a bad word. The last two above are each an Indianapolis Kuntz
Post about 'em all you want. If you don't see the difference, I can't help you.
If only we were as stupid/liars as Pats fans regarding the entire deflator moniker, we'd all believe your moronic examples. Instead they only demonstrate your continued lameness.
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Why do you get to randomly decide that a word is profane if it is not?
Can I not say "witch" because it rhymes with a bad word?
Can I not say "truck" because it rhymes with a bad word?
It would be quite unfortunate, I'd think, to be an Indianapolis Kuntz. But maybe you can ask Bill's kids.
I don't, moron. Rivals does, or Peegs. If you have to purposefully misspell a word to get it through the filter, then don't do it.
All I'm looking for from you is to stop trying to sneak the c-word into your posts. That's it.
The word you've created doesn't rhyme, moron. It's a lame way for you to use a word that you've already been banned for. Quit being an idiot.
seems arbitrary, as you've indicated that abbreviations to get words past the filter are perfectly fine...
You said that STFU is OK,
I guess so is
GFU,
ESAD,
SMD,
FOAD
WTF?
Can I just have my way with TB and make all these threads go away?
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