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Desantis cost Florida a billion dollars to get even with Disney

Agree. They ain't moving. The parks are massive, never mind the parking lots and raw land around it.

don’t forget the ancillary support from other hotels, other theme parks and attractions, etc.

It would take decades to get to the same scale as it has in Orlando.
 
Who on god's green earth believed Trump was a Marxist?
Omg every damn dem on this board thought he wanted to "rule" us. Hilarious. I found it truly entertaining that Trump left stuff to the Governor's only offering the national guard which was refused during major riots and left a few politicians pissed off at over reach. Lmao. Then Biden and his vax/mask mandates on a federal level. Yes, storybook sh!t. You can't make this stuff up. Smh.
 
Correct their duty is to shareholders so they should have never come out and made such idiotic statements in regards to the Parental Rights in Education bill. Just keep your mouth shut and move on. Since they opened their mouth the stock has been spiraling downward. Its time to stop the nonsense! I catch a freak in the bathroom with my daughter and they are gonna be re-arranged by me and her brothers for the rest of their life. God Damned idiots!
Correct their duty is to shareholders so they should have never come out and made such idiotic statements in regards to the Parental Rights in Education bill. Just keep your mouth shut and move on. Since they opened their mouth the stock has been spiraling downward. Its time to stop the nonsense! I catch a freak in the bathroom with my daughter and they are gonna be re-arranged by me and her brothers for the rest of their life. God Damned idiots!
We certainly don’t have to agree on policies and that’s fine, but I find your homophobic comments and calling trans people freaks out of line. It’s not a good look.
 
Omg every damn dem on this board thought he wanted to "rule" us. Hilarious. I found it truly entertaining that Trump left stuff to the Governor's only offering the national guard which was refused during major riots and left a few politicians pissed off at over reach. Lmao. Then Biden and his vax/mask mandates on a federal level. Yes, storybook sh!t. You can't make this stuff up. Smh.

Yeah, I get authoritarian part, but Marxist? C'mon, no one ever thought DJT was a Marxist.
 
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We certainly don’t have to agree on policies and that’s fine, but I find your homophobic comments and calling trans people freaks out of line. It’s not a good look.
Any mother trucker guy trans that wants to enter my daughters bathroom can go f*ck themselves. K. I find it odd that we are having such a f*cked up conversation eppy.
 
I believe it has more to do with the $105m number that Disney taxes itself.. not the $63m number that covers the bonds. Per this guy, that $105m goes away, and would have to be spread equitably across the entire county.


I don't think any of it happens anyway...as I read it.... these special districts can only be dissolved at the choice of the district itself. I'm sure this ends up tied in court for years. Or more likely it ends up getting washed away next January in the Legislature once the news cycle gets old.
They have no intention of letting this go through. They passed it this year so they could tell voters they are standing up for the values of Floridians. Next year, they'll repeal it so they can tell voters they are working in the interests of Florida taxpayers and job creators. It's all a giant theatrical production.
 
Yes people are moving to Fla in droves. Hopefully they won't vote in kind with the blue state taxes and policies they left behind.

I hate all the woke shit but Desantis' war against it just adds fuel to the fire imo. He's the opposite side of it, and not in a good way.

The Disney issue isn't spawned by anything other than retaliation to wokeness. The good of Fla residents had nothing to do with it. It's pandering.

I would vote for DeSantis but he's not what the country needs. He'll just incite other groups. I'm hoping someone better emerges
You either fight these lefty woke assholes or they will run you over. Kasich, Romney types in normal times would be great. They’re worthless against these nuts. And they are ****ing nuts.
 
You made the same post consecutively but are missing the point. It isn't that some GOPers don't want to fight or battle over cultural issues. It issue is the manner in which it is done. Personally, I don't have nearly the same problem on this response/action by FL Pubs, but generally speaking, the issue is rarely with DeSantis' policies and more about his Trump-like approach.

We can argue for days about whether or not that is the best approach, but in an age of putrid Congressional approval and inability to progress on anything substantive, I don't think the "Bull in a China" shop method is going to change the trajectory of this country. And to be clear, it comes from both sides of the aisle, but is far more noticeable on the extremes. Their ability to use that approach and the media's obsession with them is precisely part of the problem.
Being nice will get you nowhere with these lefty idiots. They want no compromise.
 
You don't have to act like Trump to get things done. Desantis is a fighter but he isn't rude about it. And I am not even looking for the verbal fight, that is the window dressing. I want the results.

The biggest shot across the bow would be to dismantle the federal DOE. Don't even say anything. Just poof it away. Most of the dipshittery in schools comes down from them. Reduce government and strike a blow in the culture fight. No mean words. Just we don't need this, it is redundant, it is gone.
Yep, first day in office, poof it’s gone. What a great idea. Poof those ignorant asses into the unemployment line.
 
Any mother trucker guy trans that wants to enter my daughters bathroom can go f*ck themselves. K. I find it odd that we are having such a f*cked up conversation eppy.
I agree with you. I don't know why people think they have cater to a few weirdos and freaks over what's good for the Majority and what's normal.
 
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We certainly don’t have to agree on policies and that’s fine, but I find your homophobic comments and calling trans people freaks out of line. It’s not a good look.
Oh @Lucy01 dont show me the angry face! You know I can’t handle confrontation.
 
Yeah, I get authoritarian part, but Marxist? C'mon, no one ever thought DJT was a Marxist.

Ftw doesn't comprehend the meaning of complex words....or any over 4 letters. His propaganda didn't give him a response when confronted about his comments
 
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Do I watch Tucker? Nope but this clip was on Twitter this morning. You all can hear it for yourselves and fight like crap. I'm with Desantis

 
you aren’t being practical
No, just suggesting scenarios where Disney could begin to unwind from Orlando if it did become practical.

I'd add there's another stakeholder besides shareholders that corporations respond to and that's employees. Modern CEOs have to look in the eye of employees who care deeply about these issues. That's not going to change.
 
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Maybe not a Marxist, but he was accused of colluding with Russia.

You might have heard about it.

Because he did collude. Anyone capable of reading knows that.

In fact, he publicly asked for more assistance from Russia just recently.
 
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No, just suggesting scenarios where Disney could begin to unwind from Ontario if it did become practical.

I'd add there's another stakeholder besides shareholders that corporations respond to and that's employees. Modern CEOs have to look in the eye of employees who care deeply about these issues. That's not going to change.

there is literally nothing that Disney can do without dramatically undermining its business in Orlando. It could decide to try and replicate what is has elsewhere, but we’re talking about 20+ years and hundreds of billions of dollars to get it anywhere near the scale Disney World has.
 
there is literally nothing that Disney can do without dramatically undermining its business in Orlando. It could decide to try and replicate what is has elsewhere, but we’re talking about 20+ years and hundreds of billions of dollars to get it anywhere near the scale Disney World has.
Hey, if you believe all the Desantis critics, it will be the taxpayers who pay the bill. Disney should benefit from this, right?

I've never seen Democrats switch support to corporate welfare so quickly in my life.
 
Hey, if you believe all the Desantis critics, it will be the taxpayers who pay the bill. Disney should benefit from this, right?

I've never seen Democrats switch support to corporate welfare so quickly in my life.

Or Republicans move away from corporate welfare so quickly. Nothing like moving against companies for taking a stance against them. Revenge laws. So mature.

is this cancel culture of the gop?
 
You either fight these lefty woke assholes or they will run you over. Kasich, Romney types in normal times would be great. They’re worthless against these nuts. And they are ****ing nuts.
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Exactly Stoll!! War is on @Bulk VanderHuge bitch!! We've had enough butts burned out on our faces these last 18 months! November is coming! Like Johnny Depp vengeance will be ours!

As an aside I'm flipping channels. I haven't paid attention to the NBA in years. I just saw Quinn Snyder pacing on the sideline. I would have been less surprised to have seen Santa Claus. WTF
 
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Well, Republicans want to rethink it.

Dems are all for corporate tax breaks now!
Nah this is an actual and pretty blatant first amendment violation.

Private company doesn't agree with the government so the government retaliates because of it.

If Desantis really wanted to f with Disney he wouldn't have made his retaliation threat so crystal clear...but that wouldn't serve his ambition so here we are.

Either the alt right doesn't understand the first amendment (since they've been whining about big tech censorship as a violation of first amendment rights, which is blatantly incorrect) or the right is okay with it if it suits their need, like in this case.

If this keeps getting cheered on I'm looking forward to Biden or democratic mayors pulling liquor licenses on bar owners who registered Republican in retaliation.
 
Nah this is an actual and pretty blatant first amendment violation.

Private company doesn't agree with the government so the government retaliates because of it.

If Desantis really wanted to f with Disney he wouldn't have made his retaliation threat so crystal clear...but that wouldn't serve his ambition so here we are.

Either the alt right doesn't understand the first amendment (since they've been whining about big tech censorship as a violation of first amendment rights, which is blatantly incorrect) or the right is okay with it if it suits their need, like in this case.

If this keeps getting cheered on I'm looking forward to Biden or democratic mayors pulling liquor licenses on bar owners who registered Republican in retaliation.
Well, Tommy, the 1st Amendment doesn't apply in the Mouse Kingdom and they're not bound by any state law now.

And if it's such a 'blatant' violation of the 1st Amendment, take it to the Supreme Court.

But I'm glad to see you support total freedom from taxes for corporations now.

"If this keeps getting cheered on I'm looking forward to Biden or democratic mayors pulling liquor licenses on bar owners who registered Republican in retaliation."

What the hell do you think happened during the Covid shutdown, lil' Tommy?
 
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Well, Tommy, the 1st Amendment doesn't apply in the Mouse Kingdom and they're not bound by any state law now.

And if it's such a 'blatant' violation of the 1st Amendment, take it to the Supreme Court.

But I'm glad to see you support total freedom from taxes for corporations now.

"If this keeps getting cheered on I'm looking forward to Biden or democratic mayors pulling liquor licenses on bar owners who registered Republican in retaliation."

What the hell do you think happened during the Covid shutdown, lil' Tommy?
Disney doesn't have First Amendment-protected free speech? And government reprisal for the exercise of protected speech is ok?

Please share more of your Constitutional Law expertise. 🤣
 
Exactly Stoll!! War is on @Bulk VanderHuge bitch!! We've had enough butts burned out on our faces these last 18 months! November is coming! Like Johnny Depp vengeance will be ours!

As an aside I'm flipping channels. I haven't paid attention to the NBA in years. I just saw Quinn Snyder pacing on the sideline. I would have been less surprised to have seen Santa Claus. WTF
Didn’t they chase him out of Columbia years ago?
 
Disney doesn't have First Amendment-protected free speech? And government reprisal for the exercise of protected speech is ok?

Please share more of your Constitutional Law expertise. 🤣
Disney does not allow free speech on its property - it's a business, remember?

If you think the law is against the 1st Amendment, take it to the Supreme Court. I'm sure, if it's so obvious, it'll be overturned.

Good to know you're all for not taxing woke corporations, though, you old Republican.
 
Disney does not allow free speech on its property - it's a business, remember?

If you think the law is against the 1st Amendment, take it to the Supreme Court. I'm sure, if it's so obvious, it'll be overturned.

Good to know you're all for not taxing woke corporations, though, you old Republican.
You don't even understand the issue.

I'm actually embarrassed for you.
 
You don't even understand the issue.

I'm actually embarrassed for you.
I understand the issue. I said if it's such a violation of the 1st Amendment, the SC will deal with it.

I actually hold your opinion in lower regard than Hickory's. Well, not really, but you're peas in a pod.
 
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You don't even understand the issue.

I'm actually embarrassed for you.
He does. He's just being stupid for the sake of arguing.

Actually he's desperately trying to change the subject or wuttabout because unless he truly believes that businesses do not have 1st amendment protection from a retaliating government, there's not much to argue about in this example.

The right might not agree with Disney's take and they are free to not give them money or to try to publicly convince others to not give them money, but cheering on government to pick and choose to punish and retaliate specific businesses for having a dissuading opinion is yet another preview of an authoritarian mindset that the extreme right is turning to, ie the culture war fears.
 
The right might not agree with Disney's take and they are free to not give them money or to try to publicly convince others to not give them money, but cheering on government to pick and choose to punish and retaliate specific businesses for having a dissuading opinion is yet another preview of an authoritarian mindset that the extreme right is turning to, ie the culture war fears.

It's one more example of a political power play that is so outrageous as to be unimaginable previously, so unimaginable that they will get away with it. It ranks right up there with what McConnell did with Garland.
 
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