this surprises me. i actually know quite a few people who are excited to vote for jr. i'd bet anything they would have voted for trump. my instinct is tht he will hurt trump more than biden - vaccines, censorship, etc.
No surprise they seem him a a threat and to them democracy means keeping him off the ballot. They did it to stein in 2020. I see west made the michigan ballot which is devestating for biden so i assume the will try and get him kicked off as well. West is taking 9 percent of the black vote in michigan currently. Biden is only getting 54 percent of the black vote in michigan right now and he knows that is game over for him.
this surprises me. i actually know quite a few people who are excited to vote for jr. i'd bet anything they would have voted for trump. my instinct is tht he will hurt trump more than biden - vaccines, censorship, etc
They probably know better than we do, since they have highly paid experts figuring this shit out, but I'm with you. If I'm the Dems, my gut is make sure everyone knows RFK is on the menu.
this surprises me. i actually know quite a few people who are excited to vote for jr. i'd bet anything they would have voted for trump. my instinct is tht he will hurt trump more than biden - vaccines, censorship, etc.
yeah for sure. i'm just a bit surprised bc again that's not at all what i'd have guessed nor my anecdotal impressionThey probably know better than we do, since they have highly paid experts figuring this shit out
You are a whack job ...reviled as the man who allowed US constitution and democracy to end.
Dems can't have a 3rd choice. It has to be a Trump referendum.They probably know better than we do, since they have highly paid experts figuring this shit out, but I'm with you. If I'm the Dems, my gut is make sure everyone knows RFK is on the menu.
Supposedly Cornell West has qualified for the ballot in Michigan. That could be huge.
this surprises me. i actually know quite a few people who are excited to vote for jr. i'd bet anything they would have voted for trump. my instinct is tht he will hurt trump more than biden - vaccines, censorship, etc.
You’ll have equal culpability by not voting. It’s a choice. A bad one, but we all have to make bad choices sometime.Seems silly I think RFK Junior appeals more to MAGA with his anti-vax stance. Biden and crew are panicked. Biden said he was only around for one term. Now he may well be reviled as the man who allowed US constitution and democracy to end. I do not understand what he’s thinking. I’ll sit this election out getting ready for the next phase- honestly I want zero culpability as to what’s to come as neither outcome is positive.
I live in Indiana- I presume we will announce for Trump first of all states with the traditional 0% reporting.You’ll have equal culpability by not voting. It’s a choice. A bad one, but we all have to make bad choices sometime.
Well that’s true…. I still wouldn’t feel right not voting.I live in Indiana- I presume we will announce for Trump first of all states with the traditional 0% reporting.
RFK all the way.I live in Indiana- I presume we will announce for Trump first of all states with the traditional 0% reporting.
Think the biggest threat is splitting the never trumper vote. Many people aren't voting for biden but against Trump.
this surprises me. i actually know quite a few people who are excited to vote for jr. i'd bet anything they would have voted for trump. my instinct is tht he will hurt trump more than biden - vaccines, censorship, etc.
"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"- N. PeartYou’ll have equal culpability by not voting. It’s a choice. A bad one, but we all have to make bad choices sometime.
Not so much today, but you probably just described much of the history of women selecting husbands."If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"- N. Peart
The idea that by not casting a vote for the lesser of the two evils you haven't chosen anything and are somehow culpable is an odd way to think about this. In what other situation is someone chastised for not making a bad choice, when the better option is to not choose either?
Thank goodness mine was on the either/or thought train.Not so much today, but you probably just described much of the history of women selecting husbands.
It’s not the better option though. I may not like either option of airplane food, but I’ll take one to keep from starving."If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"- N. Peart
The idea that by not casting a vote for the lesser of the two evils you haven't chosen anything and are somehow culpable is an odd way to think about this. In what other situation is someone chastised for not making a bad choice, when the better option is to not choose either?
Bad analogy. Better one would be saying, "both options sound bad, you pick for me, and I'll just eat whatever they bring."It’s not the better option though. I may not like either option of airplane food, but I’ll take one to keep from starving.
I'd just wait until I landed instead of eating something I don't like, just because that was someone else's expectation of me when they presented me with two bad choices.It’s not the better option though. I may not like either option of airplane food, but I’ll take one to keep from starving.
Not on a 12 hour flight or longer, I don’t imagine. I’m not trying to make your choice. I’m just saying why I’d never sit out an election.I'd just wait until I landed instead of eating something I don't like, just because that was someone else's expectation of me when they presented me with two bad choices.
It's the best option for me. You make your choices and I'll make mine.
The analogy isnt working.Not on a 12 hour flight or longer, I don’t imagine. I’m not trying to make your choice. I’m just saying why I’d never sit out an election.
There are too many people that believe a 3rd party candidate has no chance that they will vote for whatever main candidate they prefer or dislike the least.The analogy isnt working.
Just because I'm not voting for one of the two mainstream presidential candidates doesn't mean I'm sitting out the election.
Yeah, we're all aware of that here. I'm not one of those people and that wasn't the discussion zeke and I were having.There are too many people that believe a 3rd party candidate has no chance that they will vote for whatever main candidate they prefer or dislike the least.
are you nuts!!!! vote trump. duh. did you hear we might be getting a "Migrant League of Fighters"? LIke cock fights. Be fun for betting too. you could have them fight for citizenship or deportation. And then maybe the Ultimate Migrant Fighter could get a cash prize. So like a mil and probably a car and then citizenship. From CNNThe analogy isnt working.
Just because I'm not voting for one of the two mainstream presidential candidates doesn't mean I'm sitting out the election.
Please don't quote Rush. They suck."If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"- N. Peart
The idea that by not casting a vote for the lesser of the two evils you haven't chosen anything and are somehow culpable is an odd way to think about this. In what other situation is someone chastised for not making a bad choice, when the better option is to not choose either?
No need to respond to my posts in the future. You're now dead to me, so please return the favor.Please don't quote Rush. They suck.
You’re not getting off that easy.No need to respond to my posts in the future. You're now dead to me, so please return the favor.
The ballot access is important though. Shows it can be done despite all the legal challenges that have been thrown at him. The Jersey Loser Law lawsuit is a prime example of a party throwing crap against the wall, hoping it will stick.
Nope, this mock scenario has already been run. Hurts Biden slightly more than Trump. Trump has a much more committed Electorate than Biden, and Biden much more than Harris. Harris is hated and a last resort candidate, who has zero brand presence.
this surprises me. i actually know quite a few people who are excited to vote for jr. i'd bet anything they would have voted for trump. my instinct is tht he will hurt trump more than biden - vaccines, censorship, etc.
Lmao. No. Trump will lose. We’ll have a far left moron for president. They will vote Harris. You’re delusionalNope, this mock scenario has already been run. Hurts Biden slightly more than Trump. Trump has a much more committed Electorate than Biden, and Biden much more than Harris. Harris is hated and a last resort candidate, who has zero brand presence.
Dems that hate Trump will rush to vote for anyone other than KH.
Lmao. No. Trump will lose. We’ll have a far left moron for president. They will vote Harris. You’re delusional
Good to see the Dems are trying to “save Democracy” again.Dems don't want Stein on the ballot either. Yesterday, they lost their initial effort to keep her off the ballot in Nevada. If she selects a pro-Hamas VP, Michigan gets really interesting.
One state ballot challenge at a time.Good to see the Dems are trying to “save Democracy” again.