this surprises me. i actually know quite a few people who are excited to vote for jr. i'd bet anything they would have voted for trump. my instinct is tht he will hurt trump more than biden - vaccines, censorship, etc.
Dems working to block rfk jr from appearing on ballots
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this surprises me. i actually know quite a few people who are excited to vote for jr. i'd bet anything they would have voted for trump. my instinct is tht he will hurt trump more than biden - vaccines, censorship, etc.
nno
Kennedy hurts trump more in certain states but biden more in others. He really hurts biden in georgia and arizona
No surprise they seem him a a threat and to them democracy means keeping him off the ballot. They did it to stein in 2020. I see west made the michigan ballot which is devestating for biden so i assume the will try and get him kicked off as well. West is taking 9 percent of the black vote in michigan currently. Biden is only getting 54 percent of the black vote in michigan right now and he knows that is game over for him.
Kennedy hurts trump more in certain states but biden more in others. He really hurts biden in georgia and arizona
They probably know better than we do, since they have highly paid experts figuring this shit out, but I'm with you. If I'm the Dems, my gut is make sure everyone knows RFK is on the menu.
yeah for sure. i'm just a bit surprised bc again that's not at all what i'd have guessed nor my anecdotal impression
Seems silly I think RFK Junior appeals more to MAGA with his anti-vax stance. Biden and crew are panicked. Biden said he was only around for one term. Now he may well be reviled as the man who allowed US constitution and democracy to end. I do not understand what he’s thinking. I’ll sit this election out getting ready for the next phase- honestly I want zero culpability as to what’s to come as neither outcome is positive.
Dems can't have a 3rd choice. It has to be a Trump referendum.
Supposedly Cornell West has qualified for the ballot in Michigan. That could be huge.
You’ll have equal culpability by not voting. It’s a choice. A bad one, but we all have to make bad choices sometime.
I live in Indiana- I presume we will announce for Trump first of all states with the traditional 0% reporting.
Well that’s true…. I still wouldn’t feel right not voting.
RFK all the way.
Gotta get Independents up to 15% so we can see them in the debates.
Otherwise...we get what we get.
Think the biggest threat is splitting the never trumper vote. Many people aren't voting for biden but against Trump.
Splitting votes 3 ways gives more power to the maga faithful because they could win with less than 50% of the vote.
"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"- N. Peart
The idea that by not casting a vote for the lesser of the two evils you haven't chosen anything and are somehow culpable is an odd way to think about this. In what other situation is someone chastised for not making a bad choice, when the better option is to not choose either?
Not so much today, but you probably just described much of the history of women selecting husbands.
Thank goodness mine was on the either/or thought train.
This was never a serious campaign. RFK is a far left liberal loon. The goal all along was to drain enough votes in PA, MI, and WI for Biden to squeak out a win and he could then have the Governorship of CA when Newsom is termed out.
It’s not the better option though. I may not like either option of airplane food, but I’ll take one to keep from starving.
Bad analogy. Better one would be saying, "both options sound bad, you pick for me, and I'll just eat whatever they bring."
I'd just wait until I landed instead of eating something I don't like, just because that was someone else's expectation of me when they presented me with two bad choices.
It's the best option for me. You make your choices and I'll make mine.
Not on a 12 hour flight or longer, I don’t imagine. I’m not trying to make your choice. I’m just saying why I’d never sit out an election.
The analogy isnt working.
Just because I'm not voting for one of the two mainstream presidential candidates doesn't mean I'm sitting out the election.
There are too many people that believe a 3rd party candidate has no chance that they will vote for whatever main candidate they prefer or dislike the least.
Yeah, we're all aware of that here. I'm not one of those people and that wasn't the discussion zeke and I were having.
are you nuts!!!! vote trump. duh. did you hear we might be getting a "Migrant League of Fighters"? LIke cock fights. Be fun for betting too. you could have them fight for citizenship or deportation. And then maybe the Ultimate Migrant Fighter could get a cash prize. So like a mil and probably a car and then citizenship. From CNN
Former President Donald Trump on Saturday said he floated the idea of having a “migrant league of fighters” to UFC President Dana White, again employing dehumanizing language to describe people who enter the US illegally.
“I said, ‘Dana, I have an idea: Why don’t you set up a migrant league of fighters and have your regular league of fighters. And then you have the champion of your league — these are the greatest fighters in the world — fight the champion of the migrants. I think the migrants’ guy might win, that’s how tough they are,” the presumptive GOP presidential nominee said at a gathering of Christian conservatives in Washington.
Trump added, “He didn’t like that idea too much, but actually, it’s not the worst idea I’ve ever had.”
The former president repeated the comments at a campaign rally in Philadelphia later Saturday.
Please don't quote Rush. They suck.
No single person is culpable for the election of a President. The notion is silly.
No need to respond to my posts in the future. You're now dead to me, so please return the favor.
The ballot access is important though. Shows it can be done despite all the legal challenges that have been thrown at him. The Jersey Loser Law lawsuit is a prime example of a party throwing crap against the wall, hoping it will stick.
Nope, this mock scenario has already been run. Hurts Biden slightly more than Trump. Trump has a much more committed Electorate than Biden, and Biden much more than Harris. Harris is hated and a last resort candidate, who has zero brand presence.
Dems that hate Trump will rush to vote for anyone other than KH.
Lmao. No. Trump will lose. We’ll have a far left moron for president. They will vote Harris. You’re delusional
It's clear that Democrats will use their current power to make up lies and Propaganda to remove any threat to their party winning. The Democratic Party doesn't care about America and only themselves and winning the election.
Maybe the DNC didn't want him on the ballot before but I am guessing they welcome him with open arms now. The Joe Rogan endorsement and subsequent whine fest by El Orange Capitan certainly benefits the left. The Rogan bros are already souring on Trump and backing their boy. Shane Gillis went off on Trump and his support the other night. Good stuff.
Dems don't want Stein on the ballot either. Yesterday, they lost their initial effort to keep her off the ballot in Nevada. If she selects a pro-Hamas VP, Michigan gets really interesting.
Good to see the Dems are trying to “save Democracy” again.
One state ballot challenge at a time.
