I don't think much of her either, but didn't feel like we needed to potentially derail the post with political stuff. Fortunately, I presume that she has underlings who investigate these matters. The only concern I have is whether she can be used as part of the fix, if the fix is indeed in. I tend to suspect that she can be, but that doesn't mean the fix is in. She, of course, has already promised a full investigation, regardless of her connections to the university.
Can Izzo survive the ESPN report
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I don't think much of her either, but didn't feel like we needed to potentially derail the post with political stuff. Fortunately, I presume that she has underlings who investigate these matters. The only concern I have is whether she can be used as part of the fix, if the fix is indeed in. I tend to suspect that she can be, but that doesn't mean the fix is in. She, of course, has already promised a full investigation, regardless of her connections to the university.
Are you referring to anything remotely based in reality, or the president whining about a conspiracy when a DOJ and FBI led by his own appointees (mostly republican) actually try to do their jobs?
And yeah, if you’re going to bring this crap up, I’m going to throw it right back in your face. You’re suggesting that we can’t trust the highest law enforcement agencies, but we can trust...Donald Trump?
(This is not a left vs right thing: this is a buffoon vs longtime, respected professional thing, who again, are mostly republican and actually chosen by aforementioned buffoon. Said buffoon has been a lying buffoon as both an R and a D.)
The average citizen, to which I am a card carrying member, has no idea what goes on behind closed doors at any level. Something I learned in Practice Management 101 is this...when someone is angry and yelling at you, they want you to get mad, too, and argue back. It disarms them when you just nob your head, as if agreeing and don't buy into their anger like they expect. It drives them crazy and defuses them every time. That said, now have a good day because it is February, the first day of the month and the shortest month of the year, which makes it kinda cool.
In keeping things more on topic, I'm already looking forward to the Michigan State game, albeit in a sadistic sort of way. Saturday night and IU basketball-life doesn't get much better than that, win or lose. You can see I'm an easy man to please.
Well..., you may just turn out to be right...
If this article is accurate the financial bonfire may just be heating up...
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/01/30/msu-credit-rating-moodys/109953312/
The screws may be tightening a bit (at least on Izzo.
Check this out:
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sp.../2018/01/31/msu-sponsors-pull-logo/109959470/
A major sponser doesn't want their logo next to M$U's... Rrrroh, rrrowww.
Check this out:
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sp.../2018/01/31/msu-sponsors-pull-logo/109959470/
A major sponser doesn't want their logo next to M$U's... Rrrroh, rrrowww.
But the fix is still in at the state level:
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...su-donor-dinner-prosecutor-forsyth/109948398/
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...su-donor-dinner-prosecutor-forsyth/109948398/
Izzo will cry a lot they will give him i pass hope so i like Izzo he a great coach! LOL
Lol. This is from the fascist playbook. First you convince people their media and institutions are against them...
Sampson was hired due to pressure from the university president as I recall.
Right, because FBI surveillance based upon opposition research from your political opponent is just standard practice. He needs to suck it up.
It depends what is found out about the rape with Walton and the 2 unnamed basketball players. If it is true that the AD was notified and it was not reported and Izzo knew as well (Walton was living with Izzo), they are in deep sh**. As in go to jail sh**.
The bar fight means nothing.
And even the Appling/Payne thing means nothing IF it is found out that the AD and Izzo didn’t know about it. That is was 100% in the police. If they did know about it and did nothing or tried to cover it up, again, they are in deep sh**.
And if you think the media is going to let this die (wrong or not), think again.
Spartan JD, spoken like a true lawyer. Thanks, but you will have a very hard time convincing anyone (at least who isn't drinking green and white kool-aid) that Izzo didn't mishandle Payne and Appling after their freshman dorm orientation night. How many games did either miss their freshman year? We all know that answer.
And spare us the "but, but they weren't even charged" refrain coming from Spartan camp to now try and shirk responsibility. Within days of the incident those 2 were moved out of that dorm to protect them and the basketball program, way more than the accuser.
Hollis, Izzo, campus police, the DA all mishandled it.
And spare us the "but, but they weren't even charged" refrain coming from Spartan camp to now try and shirk responsibility. Within days of the incident those 2 were moved out of that dorm to protect them and the basketball program, way more than the accuser.
Hollis, Izzo, campus police, the DA all mishandled it.
IndianaHoops, do you honestly think Hollis and Izzo could be kept in the dark by police about the Appling/Payne incident??
Again, the 2 players were moved out of the dorm days later. Do you think Izzo and Hollis didn't know why? They are two of the most powerful people on campus. Or, once the delayed Title IX investigation of the incident finally started, the AD and coach weren't aware?
Izzo, Hollis, Dantonio, Simon can all hide behind plausible deniability in their attempt to deflect their responsibility. They must have really thought they could bury this with incomprehensible/redacted police reports AND TWICE appealing the Freedom of Information Act ruling that ESPN used to get at the reports. It's very clear they were aware what took place.
Again, the 2 players were moved out of the dorm days later. Do you think Izzo and Hollis didn't know why? They are two of the most powerful people on campus. Or, once the delayed Title IX investigation of the incident finally started, the AD and coach weren't aware?
Izzo, Hollis, Dantonio, Simon can all hide behind plausible deniability in their attempt to deflect their responsibility. They must have really thought they could bury this with incomprehensible/redacted police reports AND TWICE appealing the Freedom of Information Act ruling that ESPN used to get at the reports. It's very clear they were aware what took place.
The warrant wasn’t solely based on the dossier and the fact that Republicans and then Hillary supporters funded the research doesn’t make the information it produced invalid. The FISA judges were aware the dossier was a political document. There was no deception.
Lol,have you watched him when he’s asked a question about it?Not the responses and body language of an innocent man.
That didn't just mishandle it, they buried it...
Looking the other way to preserve plausible deniability - while smart is also slimy. Boeheim, Paterno, Izzo.
He will survive it. That scumbag molester school should be torn apart completely from an athletics perspective. But it won’t happen.
Looks like the FBI was right on top of things...
Wonder where the agent assigned to the case graduated from...?
Link: https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2018/...arry-nasser-while-fbi-knew-about-allegations/
Wonder where the agent assigned to the case graduated from...?
Link: https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2018/...arry-nasser-while-fbi-knew-about-allegations/
He is toast as soon as they get a new AD this summer. Good riddance!
Izzo will deny even though the evidence says otherwise. MSU new AD will be forced to make a decision whether to fire Izzo or explain why abd how these allegations happened. Izzo should be toast.
I expect the tradition to continue at M$U: denie, deflect, put the "fix" in on the investigative process and continue on with the same two phonies left in charge of football and basketball (Dantonio & Izzo ) as long as they continue to win and make $... Hope I'm wrong.
Now the wild card could/would be if their sponsors pull their advertising $ and that would be a great twist on things (one insurance company already did and those loveable, wacky M$U fans are trying to boycott that company)...
I think there was another thread back there somewhere that covered this topic in depth.
Bottom line: the NCAA, the Big Ten, and most importantly the half the state of Michigan and most of those in positions of power at M$U have no interest, or intention, of dumping their two sacred cash cows: Dantonio and Izzo...
All you have to do is take a close look at who's doing the phony "investigating" up at M$U... Those two will be there until they decide to retire... Sad, if you ask me.
Bottom line: the NCAA, the Big Ten, and most importantly the half the state of Michigan and most of those in positions of power at M$U have no interest, or intention, of dumping their two sacred cash cows: Dantonio and Izzo...
All you have to do is take a close look at who's doing the phony "investigating" up at M$U... Those two will be there until they decide to retire... Sad, if you ask me.
The "fix" is in up at M$U:
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/n...su-donor-dinner-prosecutor-forsyth/109948398/
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/n...su-donor-dinner-prosecutor-forsyth/109948398/
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