Don’t fall for it. Winnable doesn’t mean should win. Cincinnati has 3 losses and is ranked 21. It would have been a great win for IU but Cincinnati is not Ohio St or Georgia. The gap between Cincinnati and IU is not because they have 2 deep 5 stars vs 3 stars.
All the pressure is on PU while IU has nothing to lose
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IU went 1-11 last year. They had two non-competitive games this year that were total mismatches from start to finish; Ohio State and Penn State. They played Michigan well deep into the 3rd quarter.
So you’re essentially saying that every game IU plays in from here on out is “winnable” so long as it’s not against a top 5 team. Do you know how delusional you sound?
Agree with this. I just think 6 wins minimum. Completely agree that 8-9 would have been a great year.
A good coach gets us 6 of 8 winnable games. I'd be happy with 5 and the Bucket.
Today will say a lot.
Based on the talent they have recruited, yes. Are you saying IU should never win vs a top 30ish team?
You are selling IU way short. We won twice as many games last year as you claim.
Never said they shouldn’t beat a top 30ish team. But thinking that every game on IU’s schedule sans OSU and UM is a winnable game every year is also crazy talk.
And we’ll have to agree to disagree on talent. I see one, maybe two NFL caliber players on this years roster and both are true freshman.
I’m realistic when it comes to IU football. IU is historically a 3-4 win a year program. I think with the right coach and right commitment to the football program IU can become a perennial 6 win team a year but acting like every game other than UM and OSU should be viewed as winnable is just crazy talk.
Agree but imo it’s coaching leading to that. From a recruiting ranking standpoint they have been more than solid the last 4-5 years
Recruiting rankings aside, IU still ranks 6th out 7th in the division in which they play and the margin of talent between IU and the top 4 of the B10 east is massive. They unfortunately play all 6 of those teams every single year. That is the reality of the situation. A team like Purdue doesn’t play in that reality.
To paint a clearer picture for anyone still not seeing this, the talent disparity between Ohio State and Michigan/Penn State is about the same margin between Wisconsin (the perceived best team in the west since realignment) and Illinois (the worst perceived team since realignment). The talent disparity between Michigan/Penn State and a team like IU is wider than the top and bottom teams in the West.
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After 2019 and 2020 we were all hoping we had become that perennial 6 win team.
Unfortunately we are not.
I think there is a lot of truth to which team will feel the pressure and which team can play free with nothing to lose. It reminds me a lot of the 1991 bucket game where IU was favored in Bloomington and Purdue won and kept IU out of a bowl game and crushed Anthony Thompson's Heisman chance. Rivalry games are always dicey for the favorite. Not sure what to expect, turnovers may play a big part. Wouldn't bet on either side of this game with your money, lol.
For Purdue and IU, it is rarely about how we do against our toughest opponents, it is about how we do against our "should win" and "could win" opponents. IU beats Rutgers and Maryland for example and it is an entirely different looking season. Purdue should have beaten PSU and Syracuse and then this game wouldn't matter much.
Should have but didn’t. And that’s the problem. The margin for error with IU is razor thin given their schedule. Purdue lost to arguably its two toughest opponents yet still has a chance to not only win 8 games, but play for a B10 championship. That opportunity will never exist for IU under the current alignment.
As a fan of football, I look forward to the change in divisions, although the divisions do make for more rivalry against your every year opponents. And, while I am in no way saying Wisconsin is better than OSU, as a Purdue fan, I would rather play OSU every year and get Wisconsin off our schedule. We seem to upset OSU twice a decade, no matter where they are ranked, and we NEVER, EVER beat Wisconsin. lol
Reality is that you hardly ever play Ohio State. Purdue has played Penn St 3x, OSU twice, and Michigan just ONCE since re-alignment in 2014. Don’t let a one off upset cloud your judgement. If Purdue played UM, PSU, and OSU every single their record would reflect as such and it’d be very similar to IU’s record against the Big 3. It’s a good problem for Purdue to have and why these types of scenarios that Purdue is in now exist.
With all the transfers and new coaches if they win this game I’ll be happy. Something to build on.
Not sure I said that? I know I did say earlier with the right coach and right commitment IU could be become a perennial 6 win team.
You would have two more losses this year if you play UM and OSU: 110% guarantee.
Well, nothing but the game...and, the Bucket, yet again.
Nothing to lose, and, yet, lost everything...the game...the Bucket...their shiny new toy at QB (never mind that he can't throw)...respect...any notion of momentum...and, more credibility.
He leads 4-1. Two wins in Bloomington (2017, 2022) and (2 wins in WL 2018, 2021 and 1 loss in WL 2019) Injuries have been a factor for both teams in several games.
And, yet...Indinia won 1 game vs the West...to be fair, that is 1 more than a year ago.
You like to suggest that Purdue's success is a product of their being in the West, whereas Indinia's lack of it is irrelevant of which division it is in, as, they would have (and have had) just as much failure against the West division. 8 wins I believe in 7 years against the West division (with 3 of them in one year), so 5 total in the other 6...like say, they are not good regardless of division, and, to pretend otherwise is ridiculous.
Our lack of success like 8-4 in 2019 and a top 15 season in 2020 while Purdue was near the rear of the conference? Your 2019 4-8 is just as bad as, if not worse than, our 4-8 this year was given the teams each side played. We had two up years while you were down and now you have done the exact same. Purdue has just had more recent success, not more success.
You are putting a lot of words in my mouth. Fail Train U is not even close to being as good as UM or OSU this year: there is a 110% probability that PUke has 2 more losses if they play UM or OSU this year. PUke doesn't stand a chance against UM: it is simply a fact. If you think that the Purdouche Toiletfakers are at the level of OSU or UM this year or as a program, then you are on crack.
How many times in your life have you typed Indinia and then got off afterwards? I am guessing it is in the hundreds. You found something cute you thought was funny and haven't progressed from that point in over a yr.
Purdue has benefited greatly from playing in the JV div. This isn’t in debate.
This year’s charmin soft schedule combined with huge breaks like Iowa choking and Dexter going down yesterday put you in the position to get thrashed next Sat by UM’s second stringers. Why risk injury in a cakewalk game when the big prize is ahead.
You broilees can crow all you want. But we ALL know we were running wild all over you. We would have won had Dex not gone down.
I haven’t seen any Purdue fans crowing, but, yes, IU’s chances of winning the game diminished greatly when Williams went down.
I didn’t hear an explanation. Was it a non-contact turf injury we see so often?
Running wild to a 7-3 halftime lead. Deb didn’t play D, which was again our undoing. They didn’t go up and down the field on us in the second half because the D shut them down.
