2024 thoughts
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I understand conspiracy theories. Believing that people are keeping secrets and the public story is a lie...it's possible. But believing that public acts are something other than they actually are? That takes a special level of delusion. It's the equivalent of honestly believing the sun rises in the west and sets in the east.
I would imagine it's not so much policy based as it is having a moral compass and being sane.
Kinzinger is not even really a rino anymore he is simply hack who is hell bent on trying to hurt the republican party. He is a perfect candidate for the Lincoln Project and we all know he will be on CNN soon. Collins at least has some principles but Chaney and Kinzinger are hacks who really do not give two craps about 01/06 there only goal is to try and destroy Trump. That is not even a rino it is a bitter bitter person who goes wherever the wind blows. Liz will likely be one CNN or MSNBC every single night after she loses in 2022.
Chaney and Liz are both butthurt at Trump for petty reasons. Liz because Trump denied Jeborah the Republican nomination in 2016 and the Bush family that dynasty they so badly wanted. Kinzinger because Trump didn’t give him that Secretary of Air Force position he coveted.
Yep but now Liz may have a little life if she can just keep pushing biden on more troops and possible war. I am sure she is very happy with this development.
The fact that those arrogant war mongers thought Jeb Bush was owed the nomination was just unreal. People were so done with Bush and his wars but they were too arrogant to see it. I always laugh at the left who know loves Liz but the same people wanted to lock her dad up for war crimes 10 years ago. Too funny.
President Joe Biden has officially approved new military deployments to Eastern Europe amid concerns that a Russian invasion of Ukraine could be imminent, the Pentagon said on Wednesday.
Pentagon press secretary John Kirby told reporters that 2,000 US troops from Fort Bragg are being deployed to Germany and Poland, while 1,000 are being moved from Germany to Romania. These movements are occurring separately from the 8,500 US troops recently placed on high alert for a potential deployment to Eastern Europe.
The US troop deployments to Eastern Europe are meant to serve as a deterrent against further Russian aggression, and a signal to Putin that Washington has NATO's back.
"These are not permanent moves. They are moves designed to respond to the current security environment. Moreover, these forces are not going to fight in Ukraine," Kirby said on Wednesday.
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Most voters think President Joe Biden is one of the worst ever to hold the office, and rank him below his two immediate predecessors in the White House.
A new national telephone and online survey by Rasmussen Reports and The National Pulse finds that 54% of Likely U.S. voters think Biden will be remembered as one of the worst presidents in American history. Only 15% believe Biden will rank in history as one of America’s best presidents,
LOL c'mon man! Boy for a guy who is so hatet as many on here claim Trump polls pretty darn well compared to senile joe. Shooter and Hickory do not represent the majority of americans though I am guessing they think they do.
https://twitter.com/Rasmussen_Poll
One of the best presidents in history?
INDEPENDENTS say yes for:
Obama - 26%
Trump - 42%
Biden - 8%https://bit.ly/3IUtdq0 @POTUS@BarackObama#Trump@DonaldJTrumpJr#worsteverPOTUS
Worst President Ever? Voters Rate Biden Below Trump, Obama
Wednesday, February 02, 2022Most voters think President Joe Biden is one of the worst ever to hold the office, and rank him below his two immediate predecessors in the White House.
A new national telephone and online survey by Rasmussen Reports and The National Pulse finds that 54% of Likely U.S. voters think Biden will be remembered as one of the worst presidents in American history. Only 15% believe Biden will rank in history as one of America’s best presidents,
LOL c'mon man! Boy for a guy who is so hatet as many on here claim Trump polls pretty darn well compared to senile joe. Shooter and Hickory do not represent the majority of americans though I am guessing they think they do.
https://twitter.com/Rasmussen_Poll
One of the best presidents in history?
INDEPENDENTS say yes for:
Obama - 26%
Trump - 42%
Biden - 8%https://bit.ly/3IUtdq0 @POTUS@BarackObama#Trump@DonaldJTrumpJr#worsteverPOTUS
Mehmet Oz made his fortune from syndicating his show in China, enriching himself by carefully abiding by the CCP’s censorship and propaganda laws.
He cannot be the Republican nominee
Maybe she'll gain traction. She's been putting herself out there calling for Biden/Harris to resign. She might be figuring out the rules a bit
Maybe a possible comeback in 2024 after 2020 did not work out for him? I mean he did have the CNN endorsment for awhile so who knows! If nothing else a 2028 run.
news.yahoo.com
Michael Avenatti convicted of wire fraud and aggravated identity theft in Stormy Daniels case and faces up to 22 years in prison
Avenatti was accused of stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars from the adult film actress Stormy Daniels while representing her.
I think she is simply being a calculated politician as she learned fast her comments a year ago did not go over well with the gop base. So she is saying what she needs to say for her to get VP consideration imo. And obviously not supporting a guy lke Hershel certainly would not help her either. I think the best she could ever hope for is VP and that would likely be to check we picked a woman box most likely. She still polls really low which means she still is not very popular with the base.
That's because she hasn't campaigned nationally. Get her at a Trump rally or on a national tour, and people will warm up to her.
Looks like Mike Pence blew his chances big time.
www.huffpost.com
Mike Pence Rebuts Trump’s Claim That VP Can Overturn Election: 'President Trump Is Wrong'
The former vice president said, yet again, that he did the right thing by obeying the Constitution and disobeying Donald Trump.
“And I heard this week that President Trump said I had the right to ‘overturn the election.’ President Trump is wrong. I had no right to overturn the election. The presidency belongs to the American people, and the American people alone,”
Great sign for2022 and 2024. as hispanics continue to push towards the gop hard. Joe is certainly making it alot easier in these states with his anti border no enforcement agenda.
Good news for Republicans in Nevada. Democrats becoming Republicans
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News: Almost three times as many Dems became Repubs as Repubs became Dems in January in NV. Again. All trends seem good for GOP here. Monthly numbers are small but will add up if this trend continues and could be the canary in coal mine: https://thenevadaindependent.com/ar...ies-than-republicans-during-last-three-months
Good news for Republicans in Nevada. Democrats becoming Republicans
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@RalstonReports
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News: Almost three times as many Dems became Repubs as Repubs became Dems in January in NV. Again. All trends seem good for GOP here. Monthly numbers are small but will add up if this trend continues and could be the canary in coal mine: https://thenevadaindependent.com/ar...ies-than-republicans-during-last-three-months
That is utter nonsense. Kinzinger and Cheney, during Trump's presidency, voted in line with his position over 90% of the time. Cheney gets high scores from the American Conservative Union, Heritage Action, and Conservative Review's Liberty Score. Their unforgivable sin, in your little mind, is that they've taken on Trump after his "stop the steal" bullshit and the Jan 6 debacle.
And you're a fool if you truly believe her goal is a slot on cable news. She's setting campaign fund-raising records in Wyoming, and she'll be a force on the national political scene for a long time.
A RINO, it seems, is a Republican who has the balls to oppose Trump after his post-election lies and disruption.
It's just solidarity. Pubs are eating their own for straying. No different than what AOC and the Dems are doing to Sinema and Manchin. Wasn't Sinema just censored
Trump will run in 2024 and he will win. No Democrat who wants to run will have a chance against him. Kamala Harris will get crushed by him.
You're pulling a CoH and danc now. I was responding to his post which was specifically about RINOs, Cheney and Kinzinger.
So far, no widespread use of a "DINO" acronym.
I'm not caught up in semantics. If you don't think the Dems suffer from the same affliction between progressives and moderates you're crazy. In many ways I think Dems are in a more precarious position because it's over policy and not a person
Really. AOC has been outspoken in her efforts to get Sinema out in her primary.
In response to Cohen's tweet, Ocasio-Cortez tweeted, "Actually [Schumer] should continue to make [senators'] lives as difficult as possible and treat them the way they treat, say, public housing residents.
About a fellow Dem....
Ocasio-Cortez appeared on msnbc where she attacked Sinema saying, "I don't believe she's really given a compelling case as to why she should be renominated as the Democratic nominee for the United States Senate in Arizona."
And don't forget the Dem Party of Az censored her
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Differences in policy are what politics are all about. While it may get ugly, that's healthy. With the Republicans, what you have now is a cult of personality. Policy is an afterthought.
So what? How is that any worse than cancel culture, wokeism, vaccine/mask shaming, etc. It's just a difference in leader(s). What we're getting from the Left isn't policy. It's culture wars. No different than from the Trump adherents. One is just unseemly to you.
Possibly, but the GOP would win bigger with another candidate. Nothing will motivate the opposition more than Trump. Why do you think Biden beat his ass last time? Not because people loved Biden.
Because they illegally changed the rules and because of massive illegal ballot harvesting. They didn't do a signature match check in any of the contested states.
The point I was making, until you took things in a different direction, is that people who refer to Cheney and Kinzinger as "Republicans in Name Only" couldn't be more wrong. Cheney and Kinzinger are committed conservatives, more so than many of their congressional Republican colleagues, and they vote with their party in virtually every instance. Unlike Sinema and Manchin, they haven't blocked key party legislative initiatives. The thing they've done that has pissed leadership off, and the only thing they've done that's pissed leadership off, is that they've dared to take on Trump. And because Trump refers to Republicans who speak out against him as RINOs (he just added Lindsey Graham to the list), so too do the fanatical Trump followers here.
Mitch McConnell decades ago: “you must be mistaking me for someone who gives a fvk about policy. “
I think I see what you are saying and I agree, there is a section of the party that is angry and using some of the playbook.
Currently right now they don't make up the majority but it's definitely a thing, I'll give you that.
The republican party is way, way, way more ingrained with it's extreme than the Dems currently. The republican platform is dominated by them and they are winning primaries OR they have to get in line to it.
That's not the case in the Dem party. The 'squad' is still currently part of a minority movement and if there were more, open moderate republicans they would have even less power....but the republicans are dominated by the extreme.
Funny thing, I was watching some interviews with a bbc reporter who just did a big qanon study and in the beginning, the majority of the q movement were progressives (the whole govt doesn't work, everything and everyone is corrupt....well basically what IGW have been screaming at us).
So, point being, extremism comes from both sides... particularly groups that feel they are being oppressed or a minority.
Again, the Dem progressives are still a minority faction...for now.
We'll see if it continues to grow and win more primaries and national elections.
Personally, I'm okay if it comes to that because I don't have a major problem with their grievances (other than how much will it cost). I hate their tactics though.
I'm more fearful of a democratic collapse from the republican extreme, especially since they dominate the party.
Trump made Pence VP because of penses evangelical base. Pence plays the honest God-fearing politician. I kind of doubt Trump is going to lash out at Pence because Trump doesn’t want to alloy his eangelical credibility.
There’s an element of truth to what you’re saying but liberals are still pretty far left in so far as their intolerance and abuse of Biden, Manchin and Sinema. The opportunity that Democrats are overlooking based on what you’re saying about Republicans being so far right is that to get a super majority in the Senate they need more Manchins and Sinemas not less. It’s in purple states where they could gain another 10 seats if anywhere.
Lol lol lol a force if she becomes a dem. She just got censored and is going to get killed in her primary. A force lol the only fool is you.
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