I'm just gonna enjoy it and guess what. Watch them make a run.
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2015-2016 Season: Big Ten Teams Personnel
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I'm just gonna enjoy it and guess what. Watch them make a run.
I think that might be a little high for us but I really hope it comes true. I see us finishing around 4th or 5th in the conference and probably be around 23 in the country and a 6 seed in the tournament
I don't think so because we will have to rely on a freshmen to much for inside presence.
99 Things To Be Excited About For Next Season - The B1G
Here is the link to this article. The B1G made number 10 (or somewhere around there). I kept scanning and ran across these. Please if someone else can do a picture of number six I'd really appreciate it. http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nca...6-college-basketball-season/ar-AAdypzT#page=1
Spoiler alert, yeah Tom Crean!
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I'm assuming this writer did not watch the Pan Am games. http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...tar-heels-lead-no-longer-way-too-early-top-25
I'm also assuming he didn't watch the NCAA tournament last year, considering the Big 12 proved themselves unworthy of the "best conference in the country" label and he still has 5 of their teams in his top 25.
It's just... he moved Marlyand UP to number 1 AND led with Trimble in the rationale.
I agree with this statement. Made him lose a lot of credibility in my view. In my eyes, due to their point guard (or lack thereof), I'd put probably at least 3-4 other teams ahead of them, if not more.
Wichita State at number nine seems fair. Oklahoma is the only team I think should be behind them. Seven to 10 seems like where they should be with some of the questions with their front court.
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I could go along with that. Trimble's definitely not a true PG. More of a scoring PG. Most of his offensive scoring stats are very impressive. Scores a lot and also shoots a very good percentage. His A/T ratio definitely isn't impressive, but he's at least positive.
Excellent points bentley. Agree this trimble guy will be a flash in the pan now that the big ten knows his tendencies
For comparison's sake (2014-2015 stats per KenPom):
Player eFG% Assist Rate 3PT% Steal % FT%
Fred Van Vleet 49% 35.3 36.7% 3.9% 79.6%
Melo Trimble 53.4% 21.2 41.2% 2.3% 86.3%
I'd still probably go with VanVleet, but Trimble is most definitely not garbage. VanVleet being a more traditional point guard and Trimble being a scoring-minded point guard.
Tremble got exposed by average international players who probably couldnt play in the big ten. It does not look promising for his sophomore year if Maryland expects him to lead them to win the big ten. He could not take the heat against glorified international pick up teams
Interesting to observe the reactions of Shox fans to being ranked number #9 pre-season. There's no chest bumping. No bragging. No boasting. That says a lot about the last five years or so. A top 10 pre-season ranking isn't a reason for celebration - it's seen as an accurate prediction and Shox fans are aware of that.
Instead of comments on the usual aspect of the Shox being a being a pre-season top 10 team, the comments are questions about who should really be #1 and whether there are three Big 12 teams that should be ranked ahead of them.
How many times is the Big 12 going to put five teams into the dance and not see any of them make a run before the pundits figure out that the Big 12 is gaming the system?
The way the Big 12 (and other Power Five schools) are working the system is to schedule patsies and a couple of other overrated Power Five schools in the non-con. This is especially effective scheduling against OAD's. There's no penalty for losing to an overrated Power Five school and the patsies are automatic W's. The OAD's are typically a lot better later in the season, so playing them early gets you the hype for playing against the over-hyped recruit who hasn't figured out D1 ball yet.
Just the fact that the Big 12 has three teams in the pre-season top 10 guarantees that the Big 12 will again be considered a top conference. After all, teams in that conference have to play almost half their conference games against highly ranked teams. Poll dynamics are not going to respond much to a Big 12 team losing to another Power 5 school in the non-con or losing to a ranked Big 12 school. The rest of their games are virtual gimme's.
Fred VanVleet picked for their first team all-american. http://hoopshabit.com/2015/08/03/nca...m-projections/
As he should be. Watched the video of VanVleet. It was bittersweet, showing his greatness (best player on the floor that day), while the score just kept sliding in the wrong direction. Although, I don't think it will happen very often, because of who he is and how he plays (unselfishly), VanVleet could score 20 per game with regularity, and could very easily go for 30 on occasion. Excited to see what he and the rest of the Shox bring to the floor this season.
Everything I have been hearing has indicated he is going to be making a strong push. Words I've heard are relentless, tireless worker, will make a Hartman like jump.
I think we can have a nice NY connection in the post. Hope he can develop maybe even a 12 footer. Excited.
If he was just three inches taller... Gosh it'd be nice if he'd grow at least an inch. Bill was easily 6'9"...
Holt is actually closer to 6'8" than 6'7". This is Holt's year. He is the one that has the opportunity. Let's see what he does.
So I guess you've measured him? When he showed up a year ago, they measured him at 6'6"... now at that age it is possible he's grown some... but have you read that somewhere as an official measurement? Or are you just shootin' from the hip and wishing?
Well... I thought that all of the recruiting sites had him at 6'8" when they listed him at 6'7". I guess I was shooting from the hip but not intentional.
I really wasn't trying to 'call you out' on it... I was hoping he would grow a little. No matter how long his arms are, height is actually a lot more helpful... if he really would get to 6'8" it would make him significantly better in my eyes at least. It's so hard anymore because so many places have such different ways of measuring, it's hard to know what a player's actual height is... lol... thought maybe you had read something I hadn't heard about.
Updated list with La Salle transfer Khalid Lewis. Immediately eligible for the Illini.
Khalid Lewis-6'3 Sr G (graduate transfer from La Salle (PA)), http://www.fightingillini.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=6034&path=mbball, 6.0 ppg/2.0 rpg/2.2 apg as a Jr at La Salle during the 2014-2015 season, NR/NR/NR in the class of 2011,http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/player-Khalid-Lewis-118203/print, http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/67080/khalid-lewis,http://247sports.com/Player/Khalid-Lewis-60878
Khalid Lewis-6'3 Sr G (graduate transfer from La Salle (PA)), http://www.fightingillini.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=6034&path=mbball, 6.0 ppg/2.0 rpg/2.2 apg as a Jr at La Salle during the 2014-2015 season, NR/NR/NR in the class of 2011,http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/player-Khalid-Lewis-118203/print, http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/67080/khalid-lewis,http://247sports.com/Player/Khalid-Lewis-60878
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Some love for our point guard at #8 on ESPN's Top 25 College Player List
I also like how he pointed out that Melo Trimble's game is based on how a game is called. That's why he was ineffective in the physical Pan-Am games, but gets tons of calls in a regular NCAA game.
Edit: Just noticed the link is to an Insider story. My bad.
I also like how he pointed out that Melo Trimble's game is based on how a game is called. That's why he was ineffective in the physical Pan-Am games, but gets tons of calls in a regular NCAA game.
Edit: Just noticed the link is to an Insider story. My bad.
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For those without Insider access, Trimble is #17 on the list in the article.
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Sounds like he would have to be headed for JUCO then. Wasn't this year going to be his junior year even though he's 28? And he had to have burned like three transfer years by now. JUCO is probably exactly where he belongs.
That or ETSU. Forbes ought to look into that
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Props to Groce for losing his entire roster. Don't coaches usually do that in their first year. Not their 4th or 5th?
Would it be hilarous or a horribly bad idea if IU gains him somehow?
That or ETSU. Forbes ought to look into that
. Props to Groce for losing his entire roster. Don't coaches usually do that in their first year. Not their 4th or 5th?
Would it be hilarous or a horribly bad idea if IU gains him somehow?
Sounds like he would have to be headed for JUCO then. Wasn't this year going to be his junior year even though he's 28? And he had to have burned like three transfer years by now. JUCO is probably exactly where he belongs.
That or ETSU. Forbes ought to look into that
Probably the latter.
He should just stay in France. If doing the things required of a student athlete isn't his thing, then just go play professionally.
I feel bad for this kid, it seems like he's thrown away his future multiple times.
Both.
It would be a LOT of fun to recruit him, make an offer, tell him how big time he is going to be here, then release him at the last possible minute!
But... he was supposed to be their savior and on par with the likes of LeBron and Durant...
More than anything, I think this points out a couple of things that are more pronounced in today's world, especially pertaining to top level athletics.
It's not enough to be physically talented. You better be balanced, calculative and focused, or you should be extremely capable of adapting to new ideas and a variety of scenarios with which you aren't familiar.
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