And Aloha, isn't it a little odd that they didn't offer Maxwell a plea deal in exchange for taking out all the pedos? She has all the dirt. Everyone knows why. Same reason Epps was never given a real sentence and they never arrested the pipe bomber.

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Marvin the Martian said:

We can get Bing to be Veep. I like it, Mas' head would explode.

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Doesn’t Bing outrank Aloha? I thought Bing was a big shot of some kind in the military.

82hoosier said:

Which makes the Walt Bell hiring even more mind-boggling - if that is even possible.

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Supposedly he was a good at interviews.

Harry Hondo said:

For once the timing worked perfectly for IU. Cignetti and JMU were getting buzz right about the time IU fired Allen and Dolson jumped on it. I believe JMU was on GameDay about a week or so before IU hired him. Now, if only basketball could have such great timing with coaching hires.

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IU needs to break away from the Knight coaching tree.

Aloha Hoosier said:

Who has it? Does it exist anywhere except in your alternate reality? How could this not be a part of the trial of his helper (forgot her name)? Got links?

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The FBI has them. The buried it after the raid.

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Aloha Hoosier said:

He did not confirm that he made up the quote. He reiterated what Trump said to him. And once again, you're misinformed. You don't even know where Kelly and Trump were when Trump said what he said. There have been a couple of people that said they didn't hear it and the reason they didn't is because they weren't with the President and Kelly. Kelly has no reason to make up anything. These quotes about Trump are totally in keeping with other corroborated similar quotes disparaging military service. Trump lies about everything, doesn't give two shits about protecting highly classified national security information (he couldn't qualify for a security clearance), yet you believe him over a man like Kelly with no record of dishonesty and 40 years of honorable military service. This is the true TDS - Trump Devotion Syndrome. You've got a bad case of it.

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This is all I can find on Kelly’s remarks. And if I missed something, I wouldn’t be surprised.

Here’s what Kelly told CNN, when asked if he had any comment on the story.

“What can I add that has not already been said?” Kelly said, when asked if he wanted to weigh in on his former boss in light of recent comments made by other former Trump officials. “A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all ‘suckers’ because ‘there is nothing in it for them.’ A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because ‘it doesn’t look good for me.’ A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family – for all Gold Star families – on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America’s defense are ‘losers’ and wouldn’t visit their graves in France.

A person who is not truthful regarding his position on the protection of unborn life, on women, on minorities, on evangelical Christians, on Jews, on working men and women,” Kelly continued. “A person that has no idea what America stands for and has no idea what America is all about. A person who cavalierly suggests that a selfless warrior who has served his country for 40 years in peacetime and war should lose his life for treason – in expectation that someone will take action. A person who admires autocrats and murderous dictators. A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.

“There is nothing more that can be said,” Kelly concluded. “God help us.”

If I were really pedantic, I would point out that Kelly never explicitly says that Trump made those comments. He never actually mentions Trump by name at all.

He just refers to “a person” who does all those things.

I thought it was interesting at the time. And maybe I am missing something.

It just seems like a very lukewarm confirmation. Maybe the boards lawyers can weigh in.

mcmurtry66 said:

game. set. match. COH. Mods do what you do

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I've been acquainted with retired Air Force LG John Conaway through his late son Bo. Conaway's long retired now -- like retired retired. During his military career, he ended up as the Chief of the National Guard Bureau -- including during the first Gulf War. I think he retired in that post, if memory serves.

According to Bo, he cashed in on his career pretty good after he left uniformed service. And he said that pretty much all Gens and Admirals do that -- which you can't blame them, I guess.

82hoosier said:

Which makes the Walt Bell hiring even more mind-boggling - if that is even possible.

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Bell was a bizarre choice. It is also bizarre that IU's women basketball and football coaches are better than IU's basketball coach. Woodson hasn't done shit going on 4 years.

mattndallas said:

Yep. Just started it up. They obviously mentioned Fleming as a nod in an early meeting with Churchill.

Didn't know it included the great Kelly Macdonald as well. 👍

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The Fleming character actually played up more than I originally thought. Some funny Easter eggs so far including:

1. Where "M" originated from, and
2. Young Fleming screwing around with non-mission items in the Q office ala Bond. 😄

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For once the timing worked perfectly for IU. Cignetti and JMU were getting buzz right about the time IU fired Allen and Dolson jumped on it. I believe JMU was on GameDay about a week or so before IU hired him. Now, if only basketball could have such great timing with coaching hires.

Big Red Crimson Buffalo said:

I don’t think IU, nor any school, ever officially confirms who it was that they interviewed. A lot of the stuff comes from leaked info.
My understanding is that the following did get interviews:

Jason Candle -Toledo
Tom Hermann- FAU
Mike Hart - Michigan assistant
Justin Frye - OSU assistant

I think those had the strongest info circulating that they did interview here.

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I don think that list is accurate at all.

dbmhoosier said:

Wrong. They have the black book with all the kid diddler clients. They have all the blackmail material that he kept on everyone. The people have a right to know who committed these horrendous crimes and then they need to be tried.

No one gives a shit about a list of people who flew on the plane and maybe visited the island once. Many never committed a crime. Who are the pedos? They know.

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Who has it? Does it exist anywhere except in your alternate reality? How could this not be a part of the trial of his helper (forgot her name)? Got links?

Aloha Hoosier said:

I'm not assuming anything. I hope he does because, besides being unfit for the office, it's probably necessary to reform the GOP into a viable long-term party. MAGA isn't it. Unfortunately, even the Reagan party isn't it. It will need to include everything we all agree on and some things will require some compromise and revisions.

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It's somewhat encouraging to see even Democrats moving away from their past positions and rhetoric on immigration. Contrast Harris' answer last night on illegal immigration and the border with her rhetoric in the 2020 cycle.

I don't think the compromise needs to be that hard. Secure the border. Make it as difficult as we can for new people to come here illegally -- or overstay their visas when they're here.

Simultaneously, we can increase the capacity for accommodating legal immigration -- and we can shape exactly what we want that to look like (in terms of skills, etc.). And then we determine what to do with people who are already here.

But the Jim Lankfords and Chris Murphys of the world are going to have to cut bait on the border. They simply aren't going to win that battle.

No, I don't believe the number should be higher than zero, but realistically getting to zero is probably impossible.

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Oh, I'm not saying we'll ever actually prevent 100% of attempted illegal entries. That's not what I was getting at. I'm talking about the tolerance in the law itself. The notion that we'll only shut the border down after we've average 5k daily encounters (that's up to 1.8M per year) is absurd.

But it shows where the mindset is in Washington on this issue.

We can approach it though if given the resources. Which that bill did include, by the way.

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The problem isn't the resources. It's the political will. They don't want to do it -- thus the threshold thing. Once that became public and imperiled the bill's chances, did you see its sponsors and authors being willing to get rid of it in order to ensure passage?

No. They'd literally rather the bill have died than do that. And that's the problem.

Aloha Hoosier said:

There's one of the more hypocritical attacks. Trump had record turnover among his political appointees (more than 60 percent) and his key staffers (over 90 percent). These are actual records for a President since they started tracking it with Reagan.

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Are they both true?

Victorbmyboy said:

Yes he did. These guys love our assistant coaches it seems. Not enough though.

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Woody has done nothing to win over the coaches in Indiana or Indy elite.
Portal will be only way Woody recruits well, he isn’t a relationship guy at all.

WhyisIUBBcursed said:

The vaccine that Trump took credit for pushing. Your hypocrisy knows no bounds

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What hypocrisy is that?

Aloha Hoosier said:

Who the heck is "Not Found?"

The Epstein files were the Epstein trial records in most articles, and they've all been made public.

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Aloha Hoosier said:

Who the heck is "Not Found?"

The Epstein files were the Epstein trial records in most articles, and they've all been made public.

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Wrong. They have the black book with all the kid diddler clients. They have all the blackmail material that he kept on everyone. The people have a right to know who committed these horrendous crimes and then they need to be tried.

No one gives a shit about a list of people who flew on the plane and maybe visited the island once. Many never committed a crime. Who are the pedos? They know.

WhyisIUBBcursed said:

Agreed. If there was video of Trump anal raping a goat the MAGA’s would just chuckle and say boys will be boys

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Dream Team qualifier?

Spartans9312 said:

Not a chance unless the IDF is running the soup kitchen.

We are literally funding the hostage takers

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I think it would be smart for the IDF to be running the soup kitchens, as you say.

mcmurtry66 said:

i still largely disagree with this crazed. i'm convinced that the gop fractured over blue collar workers that were independnets or largely dems. trump struck a nerve with those people. they aren't hte warmongering crowd and don't like trickle down. they were the working folks that the dems supplanted with lbgqtpy and academic libs

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Well, you're certainly entitled to be wrong.

Keep in mind the history here. Bush tried to push through "comprehensive immigration reform". McCain ran on it. There was the Gang of 8 bill -- where they stripped out the border triggers (basically the idea was that the naturalization measures wouldn't kick in until and unless they achieved benchmarks in securing the border).

Any attempt to reform immigration policy always got hung up. And the stumbling block wasn't Republican politicians so much as it was Republican voters -- and their single biggest issue was sealing up the border. The pols knew this (they aren't dumb). But they are just absolutely unwilling to address it.

Then along comes Trump and his "big, beautiful wall." Nobody took his candidacy seriously at first -- and then they all collectively freaked out when he started showing real signs of support.

Immigration wasn't the only issue Trump exploited to get so many voters to leave the old GOP. But it was the biggest one -- by a lot, IMO.

CO. Hoosier said:

Pretty close. > 80% of retired four stars work as employees, directors, consultants, or lobbyists for the defense industry. I don’t think they are motivated by supporting and defending the Constitution. The money is significant and it all comes from Uncle Sam. Are you okay with this?

If you are going to discuss Ike, discuss all of him.

This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence-economic, political, even spiritual-is felt in every city, every state house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.​

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.​

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I don't get you guys. For more than a generation you guys pounded the hell out of Democrats on Free Trade. Democrats because of union ties tended to have some protectionism. Election after election conservatives railed on Reagan's belief of free trade.

That same post Reagan generation, Democrats tended to want to cut defense. The Reagan defense strategy was very simple, more is better. Republicans ran against Democrats on this issue, called us naive to think we could cut defense, said we would make the world a much more dangerous place.

Suddenly Trump appears and you (figuratively and in this case, also literally) jump on board that free trade is evil and now we get the Ike "military-industrial complex" speech straight from Bernie.

MAGA Republicans only have one core philosophy I guess, oppose anything and everything Democrats support. That includes, as McConnell now admits, turning on Reagan.

crazed_hoosier2 said:

Are you assuming Trump's going to lose? Because I'm not so sure I'd assume that. While I'd still say the election is in coin flip territory, where things are standing to day I think I'd probably rather be him than her.

Anyway....I don't think you are getting what I was saying. The entire situation with Lankford should indicate that the OG GOP really hasn't moved a whole lot on the issue. They'll never say so. But actions speak louder than words. And I think Lankford's position was generally representative of where the party establishment as a whole is.

The bill had "emergency measures" which essentially amounted to shutting down the border. In other words, they can do it when and if they decide they want to. But these measures were only put in motion when they reach a threshold of 5K encounters per day in a moving 7-day average.

Is there any reason you can think of why that number should be any higher than zero?

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I'm not assuming anything. I hope he does because, besides being unfit for the office, it's probably necessary to reform the GOP into a viable long-term party. MAGA isn't it. Unfortunately, even the Reagan party isn't it. It will need to include everything we all agree on and some things will require some compromise and revisions.

No, I don't believe the number should be higher than zero, but realistically getting to zero is probably impossible. We can approach it though if given the resources. Which that bill did include, by the way.