If Trump really said what Kelly says and if he thinks Trump is a fascist, he should have resigned immediately and pushed for Trump to be removed.
October surprise!
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That’s some weird pretzel logic there.
He is definitely wasting his time, but not for the reasons you’ve created. But you are correct in believing you don’t deserve an opinion. Because reasons.
He did resign. I've been a Chief of Staff, and your job is to support the boss whether you personally like him or not. If at some point you just can't continue to do it, you resign. Thankfully, that never happened in my job as COS. The Commodore I worded for was outstanding and a good friend still today.
This story isn't going to change any minds. It's been well known for a long time what Kelly has said. No one that supports Trump cares.
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And Trump’s got no skin in the game, so his credibility is spotless.If that was all Kelly said, he would be more believable. But Kelly rambled on with constitutional and other criticisms beyond his expertise . Nobody corroborates Kelly. As far as I am concerned Kelly’s comments are a ‘“she said, he said” argument. To test both party’s credibility, we have evidence of Kelly’s pecuniary interest in a Trump defeat, and clear objective evidence of Trump saying and doing many other things totally inconsistent with Kelly’s accusation.
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Kelly should go on the The View and tell his story to Whoopi and the gang. It would make for a very inspirational Tuesday afternoon.
Kelly confirmed it in his own voice. He confirmed his own statement... really?
Yes. Previously he was only quoted in an article and a book and the MAGAs claimed he never said it, and/or the quotes were made up. That particular nonsensical defense is no longer available.
I’ve found that some of you only require the reason of pointing out that Trump is a horrible human being…. Sorry I won’t lap up the drivel a lot of you seem to enjoy
Because he confirmed that he made up the quote and confirmed he said it. No one else present at the meeting has corroborated the statement. You really are delusional.
He did not confirm that he made up the quote. He reiterated what Trump said to him. And once again, you're misinformed. You don't even know where Kelly and Trump were when Trump said what he said. There have been a couple of people that said they didn't hear it and the reason they didn't is because they weren't with the President and Kelly. Kelly has no reason to make up anything. These quotes about Trump are totally in keeping with other corroborated similar quotes disparaging military service. Trump lies about everything, doesn't give two shits about protecting highly classified national security information (he couldn't qualify for a security clearance), yet you believe him over a man like Kelly with no record of dishonesty and 40 years of honorable military service. This is the true TDS - Trump Devotion Syndrome. You've got a bad case of it.
Hell, you really don't care if it's true or not. They could release audio recordings of Trump saying exactly what Kelly said he could and your TDS would keep you from caring. You'd just come up with some other bogus excuse.
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If Teddy Roosevelt were alive and saw what those god awful windmills are doing to wildlife in their vicinity he would take three bullets in the chest for the opportunity to beat the shit out of whoever green lights a wind farm.
I believe him as it sounds exactly like the stupid shit that comes out of Trump's mouth all of the time....and also fits with Trump's general view of the Presidency.
This doesn't seem like a far fetched account, but what the hell does it really matter? Even if there was a recording of it... Wouldn't change anyone's vote at this point.
Agreed. If there was video of Trump anal raping a goat the MAGA’s would just chuckle and say boys will be boys
This is all I can find on Kelly’s remarks. And if I missed something, I wouldn’t be surprised.
Here’s what Kelly told CNN, when asked if he had any comment on the story.
“What can I add that has not already been said?” Kelly said, when asked if he wanted to weigh in on his former boss in light of recent comments made by other former Trump officials. “A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all ‘suckers’ because ‘there is nothing in it for them.’ A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because ‘it doesn’t look good for me.’ A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family – for all Gold Star families – on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America’s defense are ‘losers’ and wouldn’t visit their graves in France.
A person who is not truthful regarding his position on the protection of unborn life, on women, on minorities, on evangelical Christians, on Jews, on working men and women,” Kelly continued. “A person that has no idea what America stands for and has no idea what America is all about. A person who cavalierly suggests that a selfless warrior who has served his country for 40 years in peacetime and war should lose his life for treason – in expectation that someone will take action. A person who admires autocrats and murderous dictators. A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.
“There is nothing more that can be said,” Kelly concluded. “God help us.”
If I were really pedantic, I would point out that Kelly never explicitly says that Trump made those comments. He never actually mentions Trump by name at all.
He just refers to “a person” who does all those things.
I thought it was interesting at the time. And maybe I am missing something.
It just seems like a very lukewarm confirmation. Maybe the boards lawyers can weigh in.
It was from this week's NYT interview.
It’s clear who he’s talking about and that it matches what was in articles and a book. Also, the interview was for the NYT, he explicitly talked about Trump, and they released the audio too.
Ahhh, fair enough.
According to Kelly, Trump said something to that effect multiple times. Has anyone else corroborated his account? Did anyone else hear it?
Trump could knife an unborn baby in the womb, push the Mom off a cliff, rape the dead bodies, then run over the remains with a truck.
Then his fanboys would still fawn over him for making the trains run on time
Then his fanboys would still fawn over him for making the trains run on time
