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You really need to read this.

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"The first four years were nothing out of the ordinary. Bennett took over the program after a 10-win campaign from Dave Leitao. The Cavaliers had only been to the NCAA Tournament once in the previous eight seasons, and Bennett was 32-34 in league play over the first four years at Virginia with one NCAA Tournament appearance in Year 3.

“People were still waiting to see what is was all about,” Littlepage recalled after the first few years of the Bennett Era. “The fact we got an NCAA bid in year three gave us a little bit of breathing room. Things seemed to be on the upswing, but it wasn’t until year five that he really got it going. He had the roster composition of older guys and guys he and his staff recruited.”

Since Year 4, Bennett’s record is 170-35 and his ACC mark is 88-19. With a win this weekend against Louisville, the Cavaliers will have another ACC regular-season crown, which would be their fourth in six years.
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Just why does this "getting older" thing keep rearing up everywhere we look with guys like Bennett?

Do you really think Archie is the next Tony Bennett?
 
Do you really think Archie is the next Tony Bennett?
Who knows - after just two seasons?

He - like Bennett - is a system guy. And it’s gonna take time to implement the system. 5-7 years in we probably would still have made the dance with the injuries we had this past season.

THAT’S the difference people discount so easily. An established culture at a program can make up for a lot of shortcomings. We’re not there yet.
 
He got hurt genius.
Hey genius. He got hurt and therefore he was not an all big ten player. You cannot elevate someone to that status just because it fits your narrative. Romeo played with an injured thumb and was 2nd team all big ten. Will history show that he was on the 1st team? No it will not. It must be confusing to live in a world where facts do not matter and stupidity reigns supreme.
 
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Who knows - after just two seasons?

He - like Bennett - is a system guy. And it’s gonna take time to implement the system. 5-7 years in we probably would still have made the dance with the injuries we had this past season.

THAT’S the difference people discount so easily. An established culture at a program can make up for a lot of shortcomings. We’re not there yet.

Do you at least agree that it is very unlikely that he is the next Tony Bennett?

I will concede that there is a chance Archie is the next Tony Bennett. I just think that chance is slightly more probable than Tom Crean being the next Tony Bennett.
 
Get a clue, missy. You’re flopping badly.

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At any point you could engage posters and try to post something worth reading. Unfortunately, you don't. Instead you post childish/emotional rants and call people names. As always, great contributions.

I set aside a little time to call out garbage posters. Call it public service.
 
Do you at least agree that it is very unlikely that he is the next Tony Bennett?

I will concede that there is a chance Archie is the next Tony Bennett. I just think that chance is slightly more probable than Tom Crean being the next Tony Bennett.
Very unlikely? Not sure I can agree with that. Would have to see looking at metrics how each have evolved to this point.
 
Do you really think Archie is the next Tony Bennett?

Ahhh f****** hell. The whole point is that no one knew Tony Bennett was Tony Bennett until a few years into Virginia. No one.

Now please stop posting the same mind-numbing shit every 5 seconds or please just die...
 
Do you at least agree that it is very unlikely that he is the next Tony Bennett?

I will concede that there is a chance Archie is the next Tony Bennett. I just think that chance is slightly more probable than Tom Crean being the next Tony Bennett.

Two years into his tenure at Virginia would you have guessed Tony Bennett would arguably be the best coach in the game today? What about Wright at Villanova who missed the NCAAT his first 3 years? Those are the two best pure college basketball coaches in the game today, God knows they wouldn't have gotten that chance if they were run out of town after 2 years.
 
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Where’s the paper trail?

Don’t tell me about a “strong offer” on a wiretap. An offer of what? The worst rookie attorney could get him out of that one.

The problem was, I know why he didn’t take it now, it was [expletive] tilted toward the family a little bit,” Wade continued. “It was tilted toward taking care of the mom, taking care of the kid. Like it was tilted towards that. Now I know for a fact he didn’t explain everything to the mom. I know now, he didn’t get enough of the piece of the pie in the deal.”

Are you really unclear what he is talking about here?
 
The problem was, I know why he didn’t take it now, it was [expletive] tilted toward the family a little bit,” Wade continued. “It was tilted toward taking care of the mom, taking care of the kid. Like it was tilted towards that. Now I know for a fact he didn’t explain everything to the mom. I know now, he didn’t get enough of the piece of the pie in the deal.”

Are you really unclear what he is talking about here?

I'm sure feepaw thinks he is literally talking about "pie".
 
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Ahhh f****** hell. The whole point is that no one knew Tony Bennett was Tony Bennett until a few years into Virginia. No one.
If you go back to this time last year (after the UMBC loss) there were likely a lot of people who thought they knew who Tony Bennett was - and what his system was capable of.
 
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Where’s the paper trail?

Don’t tell me about a “strong offer” on a wiretap. An offer of what? The worst rookie attorney could get him out of that one.

Wait a second, aren't you the same guy who in another thread shamed IU for hiring the son of an AAU coach and passed it off as cheating (although it's perfectly within the rules) yet you're fine with Will Wade being caught on wiretap discussing with Christian Dawkins how he made a strong ass off to Javonte Smart's handler/AAU coach on how to entice him to attend LSU?

What's your purpose here?
 
Two years into his tenure at Virginia would you have guessed Tony Bennett would arguably be the best coach in the game today? What about Wright at Villanova who missed the NCAAT his first 3 years? Those are the two best pure college basketball coaches in the game today, God knows they wouldn't have gotten that chance if they were run out of town after 2 years.

I wouldn't have wanted to run Tony Bennett out of town.
 
Ahhh f****** hell. The whole point is that no one knew Tony Bennett was Tony Bennett until a few years into Virginia. No one.

Now please stop posting the same mind-numbing shit every 5 seconds or please just die...

You don't have points. Also, you don't want me to die. You love me.
 
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Wait a second, aren't you the same guy who in another thread shamed IU for hiring the son of an AAU coach and passed it off as cheating (although it's perfectly within the rules) yet you're fine with Will Wade being caught on wiretap discussing with Christian Dawkins how he made a strong ass off to Javonte Smart's handler/AAU coach on how to entice him to attend LSU?

What's your purpose here?

Easy. There's a village idiot in every town.
 
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Why? Tony Bennett had a worse overall record and worse conference winning % after 2 years than Archie did after 2 years. And Bennett missed the tournament in his second year with two future NBA players.

4 quick reasons:

1. His prior success at WSU
2. His best player got hurt 10 games (one of the NBA players) into his 2nd season
3. It's more difficult to win at Virginia than Indiana
4. I've never said Archie shouldn't get a 3rd season, so I wouldn't advocate for Bennett to get run out of town after his 2nd season.
 
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It may take more than next season's recruits (2nd Archie recruiting class) to make the NCAA Tournament and stay there.
 
Wait a second, aren't you the same guy who in another thread shamed IU for hiring the son of an AAU coach and passed it off as cheating (although it's perfectly within the rules) yet you're fine with Will Wade being caught on wiretap discussing with Christian Dawkins how he made a strong ass off to Javonte Smart's handler/AAU coach on how to entice him to attend LSU?

What's your purpose here?
I never shamed anyone. I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy on this board. I had no problem with it but I also don’t complain when other schools do it (like most here do).

And I’m not “fine” with Wade paying players. I’m just pointing out that they don’t have any evidence or at least they haven’t presented any yet.
 
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The problem was, I know why he didn’t take it now, it was [expletive] tilted toward the family a little bit,” Wade continued. “It was tilted toward taking care of the mom, taking care of the kid. Like it was tilted towards that. Now I know for a fact he didn’t explain everything to the mom. I know now, he didn’t get enough of the piece of the pie in the deal.”

Are you really unclear what he is talking about here?
I’m not unclear, but that isn’t proof. Is he coaching still or is he not? Why do you think that is? Where’s the paper trail?
 
Hey genius. He got hurt and therefore he was not an all big ten player. You cannot elevate someone to that status just because it fits your narrative. Romero played with an injured thumb and was 2nd team all big ten. Will history show that he was on the 1st team? No it will not. It must be confusing to live in a world where facts do not matter and stupidity reigns supreme.
All of our injuries combined wouldn’t add up to the production MSU lost with one player. We lost a couple role players for a game or two. That’s minor in college basketball.
 
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All of our injuries combined wouldn’t add up to the production MSU lost with one player. We lost a couple role players for a game or two. That’s minor in college basketball.
YDS

Have you been waiting all afternoon to post this?

I've been waiting all afternoon to post this because I wanted to be 100% sure. I got a text this morning about it and admittedly I thought it was a rumor at first. I've been waiting to make sure its 100% before posting.
I can say with 100% confidence that Billy and his wife were in Bloomington this morning.
I don't see any scenario where he and his wife come to town and he doesn't take the job. It's happening!!!
 
I’m not unclear, but that isn’t proof. Is he coaching still or is he not? Why do you think that is? Where’s the paper trail?

Proof enough for me.

If he’s smart there isn’t a paper trial. You don’t write checks when you commit a crime
 
We had this past season:

**Our best player (Langford) playing with a torn ligament (which required surgery at the end of the season) from the Duke game on.

**Our best point guard (who sprearheads the packline) missing nearly 3 weeks and still wasn't back to pre-concussion form until the 2nd Purdue game.

**Our other starting guard (Durham) had a finger on his shooting hand turned perpendicular during the first Michigan St game. Look at his shooting before and after.

**Our best inside player (Morgan) had to play in the post instead of his natural spot at power forward (much like Darryl Thomas in '86). DeRon Davis took nearly the entire year to get fully healthy (ever had an achilles tear?) and both Race Thompson and Jerome Hunter missing most/all of the year killed our inside depth.

**With Hunter, we lost what very well could have been a significant scorer and outside threat - a consistent 3rd option this team never had all year.

But, hey, we've been over all this before. You're gonna believe what you want to believe. I've told you why I believe what I do. This year will tell us a lot about what we have as a coach.

I didn’t get a chance to address these. That’s a long laundry list of excuses.

*Romeo scored 21, 17, 20 points the three games after Duke. He also shot over 50% from the field in those games. Those are pretty good numbers for a guy who was injured in the Duke game.

*Phin missed 3 games. I’ve posted several times how poorly he played down the stretch. If his defense was as good as you say it was, I assume Archie would had played him the last 10 minutes of the most important game of the season.

*Durham dislocated finger. It happens to lost of player. He didn’t miss one game because of it.

*Race Thompson couldn’t get into the rotation when he was healthy at the end of the season. He also most likely won’t get that many minutes next year.

*We have no clue had how good Hunter is. He might have started or he could have also struggled to get minutes like Anderson.

You are correct we have been over this before and I’m going to go with Archie isn’t that good of a coach.
 
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I didn’t get a chance to address these. That’s a long laundry list of excuses.

*Romeo scored 21, 17, 20 points the three games after Duke. He also shot over 50% from the field in those games. Those are pretty good number for a guy who was injured in the Duke game.

*Phin missed 3 games. I’ve posted several times how poorly he played down the stretch. If his defense was as good as you say it was, I assume Archie would had played him the last 10 minutes of the most important game of the season.

*Durham dislocated finger. It happens all the time to players. He didn’t miss one game because of it.

*Race Thompson couldn’t get into the rotation when he was healthy at the end of the season. He also most likely won’t get that many minutes next year.

*We have no clue had how good Hunter is. He might have started or he could have also struggled to get minutes like Anderson.

You are correct we have been over this before and I’m going to go with Archie isn’t that good of a coach.

Romeo shot 3-11 from behind the arc in those three games.
 
All of our injuries combined wouldn’t add up to the production MSU lost with one player. We lost a couple role players for a game or two. That’s minor in college basketball.
You are beyond stupid. Providing you with facts has become tiresome as you do not grasp what is a fact unless the fact fits your narrative. You are nothing more than a dumbass troll that needs to crawl under the front porch and die.
 
Even with everything that went wrong this past year, we were ONE game from making the NCAA Tournament. 1 game.

Turnover percentage improved and the defense got better each of the first two years - when considering the cultural shift from the prior coaching staff (which didn't value possessions nor committing to lockdown defense) that most certainly is a step in the right direction.

But, I understand - it doesn't fit your narrative. Just remember what you said above: "We dont know which path Archie will follow". I can't guarantee success anymore than you can guarantee failure.

I think it comes down to which IU team you feel was the anomaly last year. Are they more likely to continue to sweep MSU type teams while losing fewer games to bad teams (make the tournament), or will they continue to struggle against teams they should beat and fail to win the big upsets (miss the tournament).
 
The evidence is overwhelmingly. He would be fired at almost every university in the country. Wonder what the older gentleman in your avatar thinks about Wade?
Why does any of this matter? Do I look like the morality police?

I simply stated that LSU isn’t going to fire him and neither will the NCAA. I think that’s very clear from the fact that he’s still there. This started when you and others tried to dispute that. LSU clearly puts winning above the optics of this.
 
You are beyond stupid. Providing you with facts has become tiresome as you do not grasp what is a fact unless the fact fits your narrative. You are nothing more than a dumbass troll that needs to crawl under the front porch and die.
With age will come wisdom for you. I assume you’re a teenage kid who thinks he knows better than his parents. I was your age at one time too. You have a lot to learn young grasshopper.
 
With age will come wisdom for you. I assume you’re a teenage kid who thinks he knows better than his parents. I was your age at one time too. You have a lot to learn young grasshopper.
Just as you are shitty with facts, you are even more so guessing age. You are proof that wisdom does not come with age.
 
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