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Saying we missed by One Game - is not a truth either...theres nothing to verify that or make it known as fact...
One game in B10 tourney, one game in January, game in....which one game?
Thats a losers excuse...

IU may have missed by 2 or 3 or more games...who knows.

Then theres a large segment of this board that cites Archie’s year 2 improvement claiming IU made the tourney, acting if NIT is something to mention proudly as a tourney...

Oh shut up with this shit. God damn. If he fails next year, bombs away but pretty much everything you type is garbage at this point. F****** stop, ya dumb shit...
 
Wouldn’t need to if you’d just eat glass.

Ya, you woulda been fine with Bennett going .500 in year two? Hahahahahaha. Sell that bullshit elsewhere, douche.

At any point you could engage posters and try to post something worth reading. Unfortunately, you don't. Instead you post childish/emotional rants and call people names. As always, great contributions.
 
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Also keep in mind he had that success in large part because his father "greased the skids" for him at Washington State - Tony and his father were able to implement what became known as the "packline" during Dick Bennett's 3 years in Pullman.

2003–04 Washington State 13–16[20] 7–11[20] T–7th[21]
2004–05 Washington State 12–16[22] 7–11[22] T–6th[23]
2005–06 Washington State 11–17[24] 4–14[24] 10th[25]
Washington State: 36–49 18–36

36-49 overall, 18-36 in the Pac 12 - but was able to develop a culture that understood the defensive principles of the packline. Those 3 years also allowed Tony (who was the main recruiter) to bring in players that fit that system.

If you don't take that into account, you're not making an apples-to-apples comparison.
You’re absolutely delusional. I mean this with all seriousness. You can’t see past what your own biases are allowing you to see.
 
No, he made the NCAA tournament his first year as head coach - AFTER having his dad implement the packline the 3 years prior




Dumpster fire? Two year prior to Bennett arriving at Virginia they tied North Caroilina for the ACC regular-season title (2007). And, btw, Bennett didn't make the NCAA at Virginia until his 3rd season.



Archie took over a program that had made the NCAA tournament barely half (8) of the preceding 15 years. The prior year the team had been 18-16 (7-11 Big 10; T-10th) and had lost it's best 3 players to the NBA via the draft/free agent signing.

Top 5-8 all-time? Didn't you just say this 2 days ago?



I guess it matters when it fits your narrative . . . :rolleyes:
Virginia had made the NCAA tournament 1 time in 8 years before Bennett arrived. And 2 of the last 12. It’s bed time for you on this argument. See yourself out.
 
Don’t get me wrong - I think Bennett is a good coach, would have loved to got him in ‘08 (except knew how Kathi’s time here ended probably killed that).

But those that want to grant Bennett props for what he did at Washington State as doing something great at a Power 5 school have to acknowledge how that was achieved - by his dad laying the foundation in the 3 years he was head coach. By the time Tony took over (2006-07) the team was in their 4th season of learning the defense and getting players that fit that system. HUGE difference.

Archie is going into his 3rd year here with only one true recruiting class, taking over a program that had a high TO percentage and didn’t stop people defensively. He lost all the best talent the previous staff had, yet had made improvements in both areas each of his two years.

Does that mean he’s gonna smash it year 3? Hell no - but I won’t be a bit surprised if we make the dance this coming year.
And you would be thrilled with just making the tournament in year 3. That’s your problem.
 
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I agree that part of the reason TB was successful in his first year was because he had been there the 3 prior years as an assistant coach (having his system in place, knowing his players better, and etc.). We disagree about his dad laying the foundation. I think his Dad was at the end of his career and wasn't that good of a coach at the time (in comparison to other major D1 coaches), hence the 13-16, 12-16, and 11-17 records his last 3 years.

Also, Dick Bennett wasn't that great of a coach throughout his career. For example, Tom Crean, has been a more successful D1 coach than Dick Bennett.
You really need to read this.

From the article:

"The first four years were nothing out of the ordinary. Bennett took over the program after a 10-win campaign from Dave Leitao. The Cavaliers had only been to the NCAA Tournament once in the previous eight seasons, and Bennett was 32-34 in league play over the first four years at Virginia with one NCAA Tournament appearance in Year 3.

“People were still waiting to see what is was all about,” Littlepage recalled after the first few years of the Bennett Era. “The fact we got an NCAA bid in year three gave us a little bit of breathing room. Things seemed to be on the upswing, but it wasn’t until year five that he really got it going. He had the roster composition of older guys and guys he and his staff recruited.”

Since Year 4, Bennett’s record is 170-35 and his ACC mark is 88-19. With a win this weekend against Louisville, the Cavaliers will have another ACC regular-season crown, which would be their fourth in six years.
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Just why does this "getting older" thing keep rearing up everywhere we look with guys like Bennett?
 
He’s on a FBI wiretap talking about paying players. You need more proof than that?
Where’s the paper trail?

Don’t tell me about a “strong offer” on a wiretap. An offer of what? The worst rookie attorney could get him out of that one.
 
Taz smacks down feepaw:

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You’re absolutely delusional. I mean this with all seriousness. You can’t see past what your own biases are allowing you to see.

I'm delusional? lol

I've been waiting all afternoon to post this because I wanted to be 100% sure. I got a text this morning about it and admittedly I thought it was a rumor at first. I've been waiting to make sure its 100% before posting.
I can say with 100% confidence that Billy and his wife were in Bloomington this morning.
I don't see any scenario where he and his wife come to town and he doesn't take the job. It's happening!!!
 
Half of college teams had more significant injuries than we have. It’s just a convenient excuse.
Again, who are these teams with the same roster makeup - in experience and talent - that had the injuries we had this past season that made the NCAA Tournament? Funny how you never can provide that . . . :rolleyes:

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After all of the times that you have been proven wrong on this board, you continue to double down on stupidity. Tool!
99% of this board boils down to 2 groups. One who can look at things objectively and accept reality, and one who will always see what they want to see because they can’t get outside their biases. Unfortunately you’re in the latter. And you’ll never be able to see that.
 
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Again, who are these teams with the same roster makeup - in experience and talent - that had the injuries we had this past season that made the NCAA Tournament? Funny how you never can provide that . . . :rolleyes:
How did Michigan St do after losing their 2nd best and all big Ten player for the year?
 
And you would be thrilled with just making the tournament in year 3. That’s your problem.
Didn't you just say this yesterday?

Forget about the Final Four. We just need to worry about making the 68 team tournament. Something we’ve only done 4 times in 11 years. How about we focus on that first.

Again, your narrative changes daily . . .
 
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I know Wade was reinstated a few months ago by LSU. Did new information come out that cleared him from FBI corruption probe? I thought they had him on wiretap with damning evidence.
nothing has or can erase what he said and did. lsu just doesn't care as long as he wins. clearly, neither does the ncaa
 
And you called ME delusional a couple posts back? You STILL want to compare our roster to Michigan State?

YDS
No one expected a Final Four or 2 seed. Everyone expected the tournament at a bare minimum.

If we were a 6 seed and lost first round not one person here would be complaining. The complete implosion mid season and now the disaster that recruiting has become is what’s worrying the realistic posters.
 
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No one expected a Final Four or 2 seed. Everyone expected the tournament at a bare minimum.

If we were a 6 seed and lost first round not one person here would be complaining. The complete implosion mid season and now the disaster that recruiting has become is what’s worrying the realistic posters.
So you're whining - again - because we missed the tournament. Despite everything bad that happened this past season, we were one win over Ohio State in the BTT from making it.

But, again, that's not your narrative . . .
 
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I never said I’d be happy with it. I said that would be a first step.
Who said I'm happy we missed the tournament?

I can understand why - unlike you . . . I also understand it takes time. Time Bennett got - but you don't want to give Archie.
 
Which player was that?
This is what I’m talking about when I say the IU bubble. Seriously? Some of you need fresh air.

Answer: Their junior guard Langford who was average 15 ppg. Who they lost for the season in Jan. Those are real injury losses.
 
So you're whining - again - because we missed the tournament. Despite everything bad that happened this past season, we were one win over Ohio State in the BTT from making it.

But, again, that's not your narrative . . .
Why does it matter if we were one game or twenty games away? We shouldn’t have been in that position. We lost 12 out of 13 kid.
 
Who said I'm happy we missed the tournament?

I can understand why - unlike you . . . I also understand it takes time. Time Bennett got - but you don't want to give Archie.
You’ve completely lost it. It’s been spelled out very clearly how Bennett was different. And you just ignore that and the hundreds of other coaches who started slow and never got it going.
 
This is what I’m talking about when I say the IU bubble. Seriously? Some of you need fresh air.

Answer: Their junior guard Langford who was average 15 ppg. Who they lost for the season in Jan. Those are real injury losses.
I just searched the All BIG 1st team, 2nd team, 3rd team and also the honorable mentions; that name did not appear anywhere. Care to try again Mr. alternative facts?
 
You’ve completely lost it. It’s been spelled out very clearly how Bennett was different. And you just ignore that and the hundreds of other coaches who started slow and never got it going.
Get a clue, missy. You’re flopping badly.
 
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