Who had this on their 2025 BINGO card?

[IUCrazy2]

He literally samples a Hitler speech at the end and has this all to a modern beat. We know he is off his rocker but WTF.

This, the anti-Jewish sign with Barstool, the stabbing death of Metcalf, the murder of the officer in Cincinnati, and the "n-word" controversy from the woman at the park, things just are not looking good on the social front for the summer. Some of these things have already come to a head and some won't for a few years, but the online discussions that seem to drive real world discussion have been polarizing (to say the least).

Is all of this just a tempest in a teapot created by the perpetually online, or are we marching back in time to a period of more intense racial and ethnic strife? If the latter, how do we address that without exacerbating issues on one side or the other?

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

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He literally samples a Hitler speech at the end and has this all to a modern beat. We know he is off his rocker but WTF.

This, the anti-Jewish sign with Barstool, the stabbing death of Metcalf, the murder of the officer in Cincinnati, and the "n-word" controversy from the woman at the park, things just are not looking good on the social front for the summer. Some of these things have already come to a head and some won't for a few years, but the online discussions that seem to drive real world discussion have been polarizing (to say the least).

Is all of this just a tempest in a teapot created by the perpetually online, or are we marching back in time to a period of more intense racial and ethnic strife? If the latter, how do we address that without exacerbating issues on one side or the other?

I wonder where he found 30 black extras to do a chorus of “Heil Hitler”.

 

[IUCrazy2]

I wonder where he found 30 black extras to do a chorus of “Heil Hitler”.

Some people will do anything for cash.

 

[Harry Hondo]

I wonder where he found 30 black extras to do a chorus of “Heil Hitler”.

AI has no color or humanity.

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

Some people will do anything for cash.

EVERYTHING has a price, EVERYTHING.

 

[WhyisIUBBcursed]

EVERYTHING has a price, EVERYTHING.

Didn’t Charles Barkley once say he’d work for the KKK for enough $$$?

 

[CO. Hoosier]

EVERYTHING has a price, EVERYTHING.

Until you are an old fart. Then all you care about is what it costs to stay vertical, have all your senses, and your mind.

 

[BradStevens]

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He literally samples a Hitler speech at the end and has this all to a modern beat. We know he is off his rocker but WTF.

This, the anti-Jewish sign with Barstool, the stabbing death of Metcalf, the murder of the officer in Cincinnati, and the "n-word" controversy from the woman at the park, things just are not looking good on the social front for the summer. Some of these things have already come to a head and some won't for a few years, but the online discussions that seem to drive real world discussion have been polarizing (to say the least).

Is all of this just a tempest in a teapot created by the perpetually online, or are we marching back in time to a period of more intense racial and ethnic strife? If the latter, how do we address that without exacerbating issues on one side or the other?

Following up on this.

There is growing concern out there about the illiberal right (some calling it the "woke" right) that are trying to revise opinions on American foreign engagements and even Churchill--I'd guess in an attempt to craft a historical narrative that supports the correctness of isolationism.

I think we had a thread about the podcasting historian on Tucker Carlson's show who claimed Churchill had a large role to play in the outbreak and scope of WW II. Here's Douglas Murray on Rogan's show who calls Rogan out and then debates a libertarian comic (and knowledgeable guy) about the topic:




And here's Murray being interviewed by Barri Weiss on some of the same stuff:



I appreciate Murray's position that the way to stop this stuff from metastasizing is for the people on the right to practice some of their own idealogical "hygiene." I think the left should have done this long ago with CRT, postmodernism, and then anti-racism, but here we are. That said, while Murray is very articulate and very smart, it doesn't take long in any debate he has to see he likes to play tricks and weasel around (usually through sophisticated ad hominem attacks) some thorny issues or inconsistencies in his own positions.

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

Following up on this.

There is growing concern out there about the illiberal right (some calling it the "woke" right) that are trying to revise opinions on American foreign engagements and even Churchill--I'd guess in an attempt to craft a historical narrative that supports the correctness of isolationism.

I think we had a thread about the podcasting historian on Tucker Carlson's show who claimed Churchill had a large role to play in the outbreak and scope of WW II. Here's Douglas Murray on Rogan's show who calls Rogan out and then debates a libertarian comic (and knowledgeable guy) about the topic:

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And here's Murray being interviewed by Barri Weiss on some of the same stuff:

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I appreciate Murray's position that the way to stop this stuff from metastasizing is for the people on the right to practice some of their own idealogical "hygiene." I think the left should have done this long ago with CRT, postmodernism, and then anti-racism, but here we are. That said, while Murray is very articulate and very smart, it doesn't take long in any debate he has to see he likes to play tricks and weasel around (usually through sophisticated ad hominem attacks) some thorny issues or inconsistencies in his own positions.

The “woke right” would seem to me to be people who can’t stomach GOP foreign policy orthodoxy of the last 40 years being questioned in any way. These are the people that will say stuff like “Why do you love Putin so much?” and propose bills that would fine private entities for boycotting Israel.

When I say “woke” it’s more descriptor of ideological purity tests, character assasination and censorship that is uncannily similar to what we saw the left wing engage in from 2016-2024.

Dave Smith is an incredibly sharp guy and his detractors, as you mention, almost always have to fall back on appeals to authority and mischaracterization of his positions.

As someone who enjoys Douglas Murray I was extremely disappointed in that Rogan appearance.

 

[BradStevens]

The “woke right” would seem to me to be people who can’t stomach GOP foreign policy orthodoxy of the last 40 years being questioned in any way. These are the people that will say stuff like “Why do you love Putin so much?” and propose bills that would fine private entities for boycotting Israel.

When I say “woke” it’s more descriptor of ideological purity tests, character assasination and censorship that is uncannily similar to what we saw the left wing engage in from 2016-2024.

Dave Smith is an incredibly sharp guy and his detractors, as you mention, almost always have to fall back on appeals to authority and mischaracterization of his positions.

As someone who enjoys Douglas Murray I was extremely disappointed in that Rogan appearance.

I'd never heard of Dave Smith before that interview, and I thought he definitely held his own against Murray. Murray came across in much of their exchange as smug and condescending, using the appeal to authority much too often.

Interesting view on the woke right. There's a line, though. In the interview with cute-as-a-button Bari, Murray references a "friend" of one of the podcasters he was referring to, who has a video he put up of him touring the Holocaust Memorial in DC and mocking it as silly and overblown.

 

[UncleMark]

That said, while Murray is very articulate and very smart, it doesn't take long in any debate he has to see he likes to play tricks and weasel around (usually through sophisticated ad hominem attacks) some thorny issues or inconsistencies in his own positions.

He'd fit right in around here then.