We have a verdict -- Guilty on ALL counts
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I think it motivates Republicans and independents who are not true maga but nevertheless suspicious of the Democratic machine to hold their noses and vote for him.
The big difference between then and now is Republican leadership in 1974 had the balls to tell Nixon that he fvcked up, that he no longer had their support and it was over. Fast forward to late 2020/2021. After initially condemning his post-election conduct, all but a handful of Republican leaders ultimately fell in line, kissed the ring, and enabled the perpetuation of The Felon's destructive, self-serving shitshow.
Yet, you DON’T think he deserves to go to jail for this particular crime. 😂
Here you have, in your own words, the criminal of the century eligible for a 4 year prison sentence, which from what I can tell, would be a reasonable sentence for this particular “crime”, and none of you cowards want him put in jail.
Why is that?
Is Trump going to prison? What to know about the possible sentence after his conviction
For the first time, a judge will consider whether a former president should be put behind bars for a felony conviction.
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And the democrats back then also didn’t torpedo his presidency with a bullshit investigation into Russian collusion which lasted 22 months and turned up zero evidence of collusion between his campaign and Russia.
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They were preparing a prosecution when Ford pardoned him.
I don't think so. Polls have consistently indicated that a conviction in any of the trials loses some support for Trump.
Ok. I'm just about done responding to you because: 1) you're badly misinformed; and 2) you're making shit up. Please direct me to any post where I referred to him as the "criminal of the century." More importantly, I've already explained why jail time isn't warranted here. He's old and he's a first-time, non-violent offender. That informed position makes me a "coward?" You're nuts.Yet, you DON’T think he deserves to go to jail for this particular crime. 😂
Here you have, in your own words, the criminal of the century eligible for a 4 year prison sentence, which from what I can tell, would be a reasonable sentence for this particular “crime”, and none of you cowards want him put in jail.
Why is that?
Is Trump going to prison? What to know about the possible sentence after his conviction
For the first time, a judge will consider whether a former president should be put behind bars for a felony conviction.
The betting markets dipped right away and basically bounced back to where they were prior to the ruling.
Right, how silly of me. It was serious enough to be the FIRST EVER criminal prosecution of a former president but NOT serious enough to put him in jail.
You’re so full of shit. 😂
A conviction in either of the federal trials would be the final nail in the coffin for him. However, it looks like neither of those cases will even start before November. It would be a real shame for America if the trials happened right after the election and he was found guilty, which I think he would be in both. Both look like slam dunks on paper.
I think it’s a wash. I did order a trump 2024 bumper sticker as a result. So now my car has four
TRUMP 2024
FAUCI LIED PEOPLE DIED
BIDEN/HARRIS DUAl AIRBAGS
And a Who Saved Who Paw
You make up shit and you're clueless. Go argue with someone else. I'm done.
That would be a tremendous shame. There is no doubt at all that he mishandled highly classified information and that shit truly pisses me off. I'd already be in jail if I had taken TS documents home and there isn't the slightest doubt about that either.
Yeah, that’s probably best. 😂
Just be honest about it like Mark. I’d have more respect for you.
Or it could just possibly be that no former president has committed the felonies that Trump was charged with.
FYI: 54% of registered voters approve the guilty verdict. https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianb...warning-signs-for-republican/?sh=739bd3e64e6e
You never know but as I’ve said that case may be in the southern district but for fort Pierce the counties they draw on will have hardcore maga. Throw in Biden not being prosecuted over it and I’d be shocked if there aren’t 2-3 jurors who won’t convict no matter what the evidence shows
Honest about what? You're not making sense. You're the guy who makes shit up (see above).
Don't flatter yourself. I couldn't care less what you think of me.
Yeah yeah. Give it time to settle in. This will come out in the wash like everything does with Trump. If he loses, I doubt this conviction is much of a factor.
Pence wasn't prosecuted for it either. The key difference between Biden/Pence and Trump is that the first two guys didn't obstruct the investigation.
The Trump world is a horror show of corruption and un-American behavior. The Mueller report reinforced the truth of that.
Russia attacked our systems and attempted to interfere in our elections through a concentrated social media campaign.
Yet, people like Tucker Carlson encourage a softening toward our adversary and engage in propaganda in support of Russia.
Much of Russia's social media interference campaign had a (successful) focus on promoting Trump and dividing America.
Key Trump supporters actively engaged with the fake and bad faith social media interference from Russia via re-tweets and other amplifications.
We also know that the social media content promulgated via Russia found and finds an easy channel in the right-wing news coverage which ultimately ends up on this board, among many other places.
Russia also hacked Democratic Party and Clinton operations in an effort to bring Clinton down.
The Mueller investigation was unable to prove that Trump and his campaign co-organized those efforts (collusion), but Trump openly and actively welcomed those Russian efforts.
Don Jr. and others met with Russians looking for opportunities for Russian intelligence to smear the Clinton campaign. The intention is there, but those efforts largely proved fruitless (so no effective coordination/collusion).
Mueller waved off any coordination and collusion claim for lack of clear proof. Mueller did so despite extensive interactions between Russian actors and despite that Trump's team actively lied to and obstructed Mueller's investigation. Mueller's report acknowledges that there may indeed have been wrongful coordination and that the missing information could alter the conclusions.
Meanwhile, in no small part because of possible business advantages for Trump in Russian, Trump's campaign team was actively engaged with Russians and began talks about softening America's hard stance against Russia and watering down sanctions. (Not coincidentally, right-wing support for Russia over Ukraine and U.S. interests grows).
Mueller laid out in painstaking detail how Trump obstructed justice. That obstruction would amount to a crime. Indeed, he expressly concluded there was substantial evidence of the commission of wrongdoing. However, Mueller stated at the outset that the DOJ cannot indict a sitting president, so he lacked authority to reach the conclusion that Trump committed a crime. All he can do is lay out and assess the evidence. Basically, Mueller concluded that there was indeed a "1", there was another "1", and there was yet another "1", but he could not by law complete the sum and add 1 + 1 + 1. A different tribunal must do that math. Mueller was clear that by that inability he was not concluding that no crime was committed. That arcane and unfortunate failure to meet the system's needs rendered a massive disinformation campaign about just what exactly Mueller concluded.
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So essentially. Russian trolls made a few Facebook posts. And the Trump campaign met with some Russians that said they had oppo on Hillary (turns out they didn’t and they never met with them again).
And you psychopaths wanted to impeach him for that. Youre a shill. And kind of a terrible human.
I hope he wins, pardons himself, and spends the next 4 years on a revenge tour. I’m a huuuuuuggggeee fan of prosecuting government officials. I’d love to see more of them in jail.
Q. What makes him a "terrible human?" A. Nothing, at least nothing that anyone here could possibly be aware of.
Why do you guys insist on demonizing those you disagree with?
That's already a given. Don't limit it to four years, though. It'll be for the rest of his life.
There are many differences that I’ve explained here, but the Trump sycophants who chanted “lock her up!” about HRC are absolute hypocrites and aren’t even ashamed of their hypocrisy.
Nixon left office because the Republicans had a spine and forced him to do so. Now Republicans encourage their felons instead of taking them out when they have the opportunity to do so. Thanks, it’s a perfect example of Republicans losing their moral compass.
He’s a terrible human because he consents to a man being incarcerated over bullshit. It’s the same thing that makes you a terrible human
I think juries typically do the right thing.
Also, the cases between Biden and Trump are significantly different and they couldn’t prosecute Biden while in office even if they wanted to. I think that DOJ rule is stupid, by the way.
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Hillary Clinton doesn’t belong in prison, even though she clearly committed a felony. She got her comeuppance at the ballot box.
That’s how this country used to work until progressives decided to tear our politics to shreds.
UFC is that supposed to prove anything? Next you’ll show him walking into a NASCAR race to roars. Have him walk into , oh, say a library and see what happens. We know where his cult can be found.
Turnabout is fair play, right out of your playbook…
They will come in with bias. Where a case sits is enormously important. Some of these communities are deep red. That nyc case wouldn’t have happened in these five counties. Zero chance.
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