We have a verdict -- Guilty on ALL counts

[ChicagoFineForNow]

Like I said, if you restricted your analogy to feudal government, it would have made sense.

Introducing the Democratic instrument doesn’t change the equation all that much.

Once power and wealth has been accumulated and centralized, democracy can’t do all that much. The largest single source of that centralization is the income tax and the corresponding growth in federal government headcount.

 

[ChicagoFineForNow]

Don’t be stupid. I know that’s difficult for you. I’m sure he called Obamas as soon as he heard the news.

Who do you think he had dial the number for him?

 

[Spartans9312]

Well…I read thru 20 pages of garbage. I will never get that time back.

But….i did learn one thing.

Outside Shooter is on a search for a new blow up doll.

 

[snarlcakes]

It’s not a capitalist oligarchy. It’s a corporatist oligarchy, whereby government and private business collude in non-competitive manner for the enrichment of themselves

Corporate oligarchy is a good name for it. They ensure they control the capital. It’s certainly not capitalism and why separation of state of money is important.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Ummmm why wouldn’t he talk about getting progressives on the Supreme Court? The race baiting is bs. We’ve gone over prices and inflation again and again and again and again. No point in doing it any more. You’re not changing your mind and I’m understanding that the whole world had inflation after the pandemic and ours was under much better control that nearly every other country. And that recession….

We don’t live in the whole world. We live here. All of the free cheese exacerbated inflation. That’s not me that’s experts and common sense. We still may have a recession and I’ll take a recession over these prices anyway.

Because progressives are clueless cult social workers who back defunding police, bail projects and sex changes for little kids and absurd school curriculums.

All Biden knows is race-baiting. His commencement speech was offensive and disgusting

 

[mcmurtry66]

So Trump did the same but you don’t care because he’s not a progressive? You seem to think Biden WAS indeed transformative, just not in the way YOU wanted.

Trump by no means did the same. But the germane part is trump was to address a novel pandemic Biden is a progressive. It’s just his agenda. Student loans today. Redistribution next year. Reparations from the race-baiter thereafter?

 

[ChicagoFineForNow]

Well…I read thru 20 pages of garbage. I will never get that time back.

But….i did learn one thing.

Outside Shooter is on a search for a new blow up doll.

Garbage events beget garbage discussion.

The Trump conviction was indeed a garbage event. In the history books it’ll be cited as a moment when political partisanship brought America to its knees.

But in the moment there is no way for our progressive friends to understand that. Those that constantly tell you they need to be on the “right side of HiStOrY” usually are not.

 

[snarlcakes]

Well…I read thru 20 pages of garbage. I will never get that time back.

But….i did learn one thing.

Outside Shooter is on a search for a new blow up doll.

So, you would bang Ms. Greene?

 

[ChicagoFineForNow]

Corporate oligarchy is a good name for it. They ensure they control the capital. It’s certainly not capitalism and why separation of state of money is important.

Corporatocracy might be the word I’m looking for, but honestly I had to google it. Doesn’t roll of the tongue.​

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[snarlcakes]

Corporatocracy might be the word I’m looking for, but honestly I had to google it. Doesn’t roll of the tongue.​

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[Noodle]

This tweet sums up this thread

 

[UncleMark]

We still may have a recession and I’ll take a recession over these prices anyway.

Yeah, fvck all those people who would lose their jobs, so long as crab legs and lattes are affordable.

 

[ChicagoFineForNow]

Good question. Turns out, Florida defers to other states when it comes to convictions in those states, so in this case, they would follow New York law, which states felons lose the right to vote only while they are serving their sentence. So, if Trump is physically in a New York prison on Election Day, he can't vote. Otherwise, he can.

God damn this guy is the man.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Yeah, fvck all those people who would lose their jobs, so long as crab legs and lattes are affordable.

Maybe 3 percent of the population vs what almost everyone with prices.

And the germane point is that Biden wasn’t strategizing anything. It’s just free cheese and what comes of it comes of it. One of his main guys is a progressive with an education in music. Biden and his crew have no idea what they’re doing

 

[ChicagoFineForNow]

Don’t be stupid. I know that’s difficult for you. I’m sure he called Obamas as soon as he heard the news.

I'm sure. They were excellent friends that smiled in front of cameras and sometimes put on skits together. The Obamas definitely respect him deeply.

I think they gave him one singular responsibility during the Obama administration. It was Ukraine policy I believe. He's done great.

 

[BradStevens]

It’s not hard to lower prices. You can do it in 3 steps.
1. Stop printing money.
2. Cut government spending, taxes, and regulations.
3. Increase productivity

I'm disappointed in you. Only one step is needed:

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[BradStevens]

I never entered into said social contract. I never consented to having my wealth confiscated. I only allow it because I don’t want to live in a cell.

Government is a gang. The largest, strongest gang that ended up winning out.

 

[BradStevens]

I'm surprised you would go that far, to be honest. I mean, the analogy between the protection racket and a feudal society is obvious to all, but to extend that to our modern capitalist oligarchy, that really takes the mind of a socialist to pull off, amirite, @BradStevens?

I think it's Nozick, actually. Or Hobbes.

 

[BradStevens]

It’s not a capitalist oligarchy. It’s a corporatist oligarchy, whereby government and private business collude in non-competitive manner for the enrichment of themselves

Similar to helping out the convenience store that you shake down every month by breaking the windows and roughing up the owner of the new convenience store that opened up down the block.

Ernest????!! Is that you, my boy??!!!!

 

[snarlcakes]

I'm disappointed in you. Only one step is needed:

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[manichi]

I never entered into said social contract. I never consented to having my wealth confiscated. I only allow it because I don’t want to live in a cell.

Government is a gang. The largest, strongest gang that ended up winning out.

preach it, my brother

 

[BradStevens]

preach it, my brother

Where'd you find that?

 

[UncleMark]

Where'd you find that?

dbm's garage?

 

[ChicagoFineForNow]

Ernest????!! Is that you, my boy??!!!!

Mises

 

[manichi]

Where'd you find that?

I happened upon it a few years ago. ChicagoFineForNow is choosing anarchy and I thought this would help him on his journey.

 

[ChicagoFineForNow]

I happened upon it a few years ago. ChicagoFineForNow is choosing anarchy and I thought this would help him on his journey.

Not so. I just believe a Federal government serves no other purpose than defending from foreign invasion. A national defense is probably the only thing it has proven it can do more efficiently than others. That can be subsidized by war bonds and sales tax.

 

[UncleMark]

Not so. I just believe a Federal government serves no other purpose than defending from foreign invasion. A national defense is probably the only thing it has proven it can do more efficiently than others. That can be subsidized by war bonds and sales tax.

That's the Boone's Farm and bong talking.

 

[BradStevens]

Not so. I just believe a Federal government serves no other purpose than defending from foreign invasion. A national defense is probably the only thing it has proven it can do more efficiently than others. That can be subsidized by war bonds and sales tax.

What about a state govt?

 

[manichi]

What about a state govt?

State governments are good for paving roads and holding lotteries. that should be the extent of their reach. Local governments should be limited to dog catching.

I'll govern me and mine as I see fit.

 

[ChicagoFineForNow]

What about a state govt?

I give much more latitude there. I like to bitch, moan, complain about Chicago/ Illinois but the truth is I could move fairly easily. It's not as easy to become a citizen of another country.

Like I said, the smaller the social contract, the more I'm willing to submit. It's my own fault that I still live under Illinois government. Realistically, State taxes should be higher than Federal.

I should move back to Texas. Maybe Georgia. Smother the Stacy Abrams movement in the crib.

 

[ChicagoFineForNow]

State governments are good for paving roads and holding lotteries. that should be the extent of their reach. Local governments should be limited to dog catching.

I'll govern me and mine as I see fit.

huh?

 

[Circlejoe]

Perhaps Biden will find time to offer his condolences once he gets the Trump gloating out of his system.

No. You missed the point. You are truly a miserable human being.

 

[ChicagoFineForNow]

No. You missed the point. You are truly a miserable human being.

Social media is not real life. Perhaps I was unfair in judging Biden for not offering condolences via that medium.

I'm sure he made a call to the Obama's.

"Hey, Barrack it's Joe Biden, I'm president now, you're smart and you're clean man. Can you believe this Trump joker? Can I talk to Michelle, he's a great dude man!"

 

[mcmurtry66]

No. You missed the point. You are truly a miserable human being.

Go back to school. Try to get a job where you don’t beg board posters for money to subsidize your “alt” life and you might have fun. Not be so triggered

 

[twenty02]

He dm'd me and says he doesn't have authority to post. Something must have happened.

Maybe he injected bleach?

RIP DMB

 

[twenty02]

Nonsense. It’s an interesting philosophical discussion though. I don’t believe you to be a “f*cking moron” just because we disagree.

I’m not averse to social contracts in general. The problem is that phrase gets too often confined to those made between citizens and national governments.


I’ve entered into a social contract with my family, my church, my company, my neighbors, my town. I entered into those freely. Each with their own governmental structure.

At scale it’s wholly unworkable. I don’t use, nor want 99% of the services the federal government provides.

Lol. No way you are really this stupid.

Your trolling us A+ though

 

[mcmurtry66]

It’s okay McM. We understand. You post here about your failures as a husband, father, attorney, and businessman. You spend day and night posting nonsense on this board because you don’t have anything to do. You get triggered daily and end up ranting like a mad man. But we can take it. Just don’t take it out on your kids. Stop the cycle.

And cuck. Don’t bring up kids. You’re not someone anyone wants near kids. You know that. You know why.

 

[ChicagoFineForNow]

Lol. No way you are really this stupid.

Your trolling us A+ though

Nah. Not sure why 3/4 of my taxes must go to a retirement plan I don't desire. A medicare I don't desire. A military that creates more problems than it solves.

What exactly is the point?

 

[mcmurtry66]

You never really left high school, did you. You’re such an easy read. When you get triggered the natural bully in you comes out. So the insults are associated with the hatred you have toward those you think are inferior. Somehow you don’t mind showing your homophobia. Maybe that comes from some hidden desires. But I’m sure your name calling has included a variety of “others”. Women, people of color, people with disabilities, etc. I fear for your children McM. Hatred passes down through generations.

No your self hatred is on display in your first and almost all of your posts. You don’t come to debate you don’t come to laugh and banter with other posters. To joke around. You come bc you’re full of hate. I saw it with your coh posts. You project. You’re like the initial foul refs always miss.

The natural bully in me comes out? I’m not a bully in the least. But when I saw you post like that to coh you immediately got on my radar as a really shitty person. And yes I would beat the piss out of you. That doesn’t make me a bully. That makes me someone who doesn’t put up with people like you

 

[mcmurtry66]

You never really left high school, did you. You’re such an easy read. When you get triggered the natural bully in you comes out. So the insults are associated with the hatred you have toward those you think are inferior. Somehow you don’t mind showing your homophobia. Maybe that comes from some hidden desires. But I’m sure your name calling has included a variety of “others”. Women, people of color, people with disabilities, etc. I fear for your children McM. Hatred passes down through generations.

You keep bringing up my children. Coh was posting about political stuff and there you show up to call him a lonely old man. Farva a miserable human. There’s no end with you. I can promise you my son will grow up being taught not to suffer people like you either. And you think my tolerance is low….