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Vivek is the most Presidential

Yes he's burning himself to the ground in front of everyone
Let’s look at each statement in isolation.

- At this point it is clear that there was not an insignificant # of Feds instigating events on the days leading up to and during 1/6

- Our government did conceal Saudi involvement and foreknowledge of 9/11 for a long time

- Democrats are deliberately undermining the border in an effort to bring in would be voters

- 2020 election was potentially swayed by big tech censorship

- FBI malfeasance contributed bigly to the Russian collusion narrative following 2016.

Not all that kooky when you break it down.
 
Biden is a bald face liar, too. Who are you going to vote for if a candidate’s lying disqualifies them?
Before Obama plucked him out of obscurity, Biden was a running joke in DC. He'd been discredited long ago by not only other politicians, but by the media, for his lying and bloviating.

Then the Dems didn't trust Obama to get enough of the white vote to win, so they put an old, affable white guy to stand next to him. The Dems, in their worst dreams, never intended for him to be President.
 
Biden is a bald face liar, too. Who are you going to vote for if a candidate’s lying disqualifies them?

I'm guessing every politician has lied. Some lie much more than others.

Although maybe Biden is just forgetful given the rampant dementia that he was diagnosed with from our resident medical professionals.
 
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It won't be Haley. And I think Desantis will at least stick it out until spring. If he drops out after Iowa, he can kiss 2028 good-bye.

DeSantis has put all his eggs in Iowa. If he comes in 3rd he's done and will drop. Haley the only one with any momentum
 
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Let’s look at each statement in isolation.

- At this point it is clear that there was not an insignificant # of Feds instigating events on the days leading up to and during 1/6

- Our government did conceal Saudi involvement and foreknowledge of 9/11 for a long time

- Democrats are deliberately undermining the border in an effort to bring in would be voters

- 2020 election was potentially swayed by big tech censorship

- FBI malfeasance contributed bigly to the Russian collusion narrative following 2016.

Not all that kooky when you break it down.
The impact that each of these things had can certainly be debated, but it does seem many either choose willful ignorance on each of these or scream “CONSPIRACY WHACKO” at anyone that tries to discuss. I’ll be interested if anyone chooses to address them rationally or if insults are the main approach to arguing against them.
 
Let’s look at each statement in isolation.

- At this point it is clear that there was not an insignificant # of Feds instigating events on the days leading up to and during 1/6

- Our government did conceal Saudi involvement and foreknowledge of 9/11 for a long time

- Democrats are deliberately undermining the border in an effort to bring in would be voters

- 2020 election was potentially swayed by big tech censorship

- FBI malfeasance contributed bigly to the Russian collusion narrative following 2016.

Not all that kooky when you break it down.

Clown. What kind of dip shit is bringing up 9/11 conspiracies? He going after the IGW vote?

Wasn't he like 12 on 9/11?
 
Clown. What kind of dip shit is bringing up 9/11 conspiracies? He going after the IGW vote?

Wasn't he like 12 on 9/11?
He said the Saudis lied about 9/11. Brad posted a link that detailed a Saudi intelligence official at least socializing with 9/11 hijackers.

That's not promoting a conspiracy theory. It's raising questions about our relationship with Saudi.

What does his age on 9/11 have to do with anything??
 
He hasn't put all his eggs in Iowa.

Definitely has. Just completed his 99 county tour. He's been more committed there than anyone else. He's very weak in NH. Where is he going after Iowa?

If he doesn't do well in Iowa he will shut it down. Or will have no money going forward.
 
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Definitely has. Just completed his 99 county tour. He's been more committed there than anyone else.
That doesn't mean all his eggs are in Iowa. What are his poll numbers on elections after that?

Where else would anyone be campaigning on the first Primary?
 
That doesn't mean all his eggs are in Iowa. What are his poll numbers on elections after that?

Where else would anyone be campaigning on the first Primary?

NH, SC etc ... Candidates pick where to dedicate resources. Some skip Iowa all together. He's put basically all his resources there. He needs to come out of there with a strong 2nd place or he's done.
 
Correct. An agency that instigated a fake kidnapping plot in a key swing state to try and rig the 2020 election would never instigate a riot. No way that's a conspiracy theory.

 
Correct. An agency that instigated a fake kidnapping plot in a key swing state to try and rig the 2020 election would never instigate a riot. No way that's a conspiracy theory.

Huh? If the "deep state" had already stolen the election, why would it need to gin up a "fake" insurrection to "destroy their enemy?" That doesn't even make sense. Trump had already lost.

And if this "deep state" had such ambitions, it could easily finish Trump off in many different ways: put child porn on his computers, have him wake up next to a child hooker, assassinate him. Yet they landed on this scheme?
 
Huh? If the "deep state" had already stolen the election, why would it need to gin up a "fake" insurrection to "destroy their enemy?" That doesn't even make sense. Trump had already lost.

And if this "deep state" had such ambitions, it could easily finish Trump off in many different ways: put child porn on his computers, have him wake up next to a child hooker, assassinate him. Yet they landed on this scheme?
How could they put child porn on his computer or a child hooker in his room when his entire house is a fortress with security cameras and secret service agents everywhere? Don't rule out the latter method. If they knew they could get away with it it would've been done already. They are getting desperate.
 
Huh? If the "deep state" had already stolen the election, why would it need to gin up a "fake" insurrection to "destroy their enemy?" That doesn't even make sense. Trump had already lost.

And if this "deep state" had such ambitions, it could easily finish Trump off in many different ways: put child porn on his computers, have him wake up next to a child hooker, assassinate him. Yet they landed on this scheme?
The CIA is looking for creative individuals such as yourself. 😄

Democrats aren't looking to just defeat Trump in an election - they're trying to make it so he can't run. It's not enough to defeat him in an election - they want to drive a stake through his heart.
 
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How could they put child porn on his computer or a child hooker in his room when his entire house is a fortress with security cameras and secret service agents everywhere? Don't rule out the latter method. If they knew they could get away with it it would've been done already. They are getting desperate.
Silly. They'd just wait until he's away and plant things like documents strewn around the floor and then take pictures and show it to the media like that's how they found it.

Oh wait, they already did that.
 
How could they put child porn on his computer or a child hooker in his room when his entire house is a fortress with security cameras and secret service agents everywhere? Don't rule out the latter method. If they knew they could get away with it it would've been done already. They are getting desperate.


Really secure.
 
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He said the Saudis lied about 9/11. Brad posted a link that detailed a Saudi intelligence official at least socializing with 9/11 hijackers.

That's not promoting a conspiracy theory. It's raising questions about our relationship with Saudi.

What does his age on 9/11 have to do with anything??
And for the record. I support our relationship with Saudi. They are transactional and their government can be reasoned with. I don’t believe 9/11 was sanctioned by the larger Saudi government as some insinuate, just that there are still some Islamist elements within Saudi, like most ME countries.

Ironically Saudi has a relatively pro- western government but a largely Islamist populous, while Iran has an Islamist government and a large part of their populous that is pro- western/ liberal.
 
And for the record. I support our relationship with Saudi. They are transactional and their government can be reasoned with. I don’t believe 9/11 was sanctioned by the larger Saudi government as some insinuate, just that there are still some Islamist elements within Saudi, like most ME countries.

Ironically Saudi has a relatively pro- western government but a largely Islamist populous, while Iran has an Islamist government and a large part of their populous that is pro- western/ liberal.
I feel the same. The royal family does what they need to do to stay in power, but they need to keep closer reins on their terrorists.
 
The CIA is looking for creative individuals such as yourself. 😄

Democrats aren't looking to just defeat Trump in an election - they're trying to make it so he can't run. It's not enough to defeat him in an election - they want to drive a stake through his heart.
I volunteer. My civic duty…
 
Correct. An agency that instigated a fake kidnapping plot in a key swing state to try and rig the 2020 election would never instigate a riot. No way that's a conspiracy theory.

Wow! You’re full of many senseless wingnut conspiracy theories. It’s an embarrassment you call yourself a Republican. Or have you dropped the Republican part because you’re really just a totally devoted doe-eyed Trumpster.
 
Silly. They'd just wait until he's away and plant things like documents strewn around the floor and then take pictures and show it to the media like that's how they found it.

Oh wait, they already did that.
Another whacky conspiracy theory from a Trumpster wingnut - and hypocrite.
 
Wow! You’re full of many senseless wingnut conspiracy theories. It’s an embarrassment you call yourself a Republican. Or have you dropped the Republican part because you’re really just a totally devoted doe-eyed Trumpster.
I don’t know why you try…there is no conversation to be had.
 
What exactly is cuckoo? Are you going to attempt to refute any of what Vivek says, or just fart all over the board per your usual arrangement.
Why should anyone waste their time trying to refute absolute absurdities? The fact that you take him the least bit seriously? I’d like to be surprised….
 
It’s like Cosmic….he’s married to certain sources
I used to frequent the moonbat sites to see what they were saying and didn’t become a moonbat. It was, and is, fairly easy to determine what was false and nutty moonbat guano. It’s easy to see that the stuff he links from Trumpster wingnuts is false and nutty too. Why can’t he do it? How did he become a Trumpster wingnut? Is it curable?
 
I used to frequent the moonbat sites to see what they were saying and didn’t become a moonbat. It was, and is, fairly easy to determine what was false and nutty moonbat guano. It’s easy to see that the stuff he links from Trumpster wingnuts is false and nutty too. Why can’t he do it? How did he become a Trumpster wingnut? Is it curable?
Time heals all wounds
 
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