We havent missed a damn day...other than for snow.
As you say, some of these places are failures
Vaccine Shaming
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As you say, some of these places are failures
Some people cannot get vaccinated. Transplant recipients, cancer patients, people with autoimmune disorders, people with severe allergies...
They are the ones relying on herd immunity being reached, with them not being vaccinated. They are put at risk by people refusing to be vaccinated.
Social Distancing Behaviors Drop as U.S. Vaccinations Rise
Significantly fewer Americans than a month ago say they are avoiding public places and isolating themselves from people outside their household.news.gallup.com
Note which group is taking the fewest precautions
If my post inferred there was only one group acting recklessly, that’s on me. The kids on spring break are clearly reckless. Much like the older Trump fan, they are juvenile and self entitled. They just want to do what they want to do. We need to become a serious country that expects adults to behave like adults.
How DARE people demand that I not drink and drive. It's MY decision what legal substances, like alcohol, to put in my body and when. It is a FREE country!
From what I can tell from this photo she's been asked by others to wear a mask.
Had she ever worn a mask prior to this moment?
My wife talks about how the people who bitch about wearing a mask are entitled and stupid, It's hard to argue with her.
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The excuses for keeping schools closed this fall are disintegrating
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Has anyone seriously claimed that schools shouldn't open this fall?
The excuses for keeping schools closed this fall are disintegrating
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Has anyone seriously claimed that schools shouldn't open this fall?
Same with my kids. Haven’t missed a single day all year. The wife too. She’s an elementary teacher.
Must have missed the constitutional right to be allowed onto an airplane.....
Desantis and this new GOP position that freedom means telling a private businesses they can’t hang a “no shirt no shoes no service” sign is a little mind bending.
Thanks fascist. Can we get a badge for anyone with hepatitis or HIV as well? What if they get a cut and somehow I come in contact with it? The flu kills, I guess I am going to need a flu shot and proof you are up to date on that vaccine before I can let you on the plane? Have not had time to do that yet? Tough shit. Sucks to be you.
All bow to our corporate masters. Do I need to get a physical before I can buy a ****ing apple? Our health information is no concern of McDonalds or Kroger. We have been allowed on flights for decades with no issues without having to show our papers. Why the **** is this very survivable virus now a lynchpin for handing over private information to United Airlines? Its. None. Of. Their. ****ing. Business.
Freedom and privacy are not new. Businesses just used to respect that people were allowed their own ****ing space before you dumbasses decided that anyone and everyone has the right to know everything about you.
Where do I get to draw the line of how intrusive a business gets to be against me before I can enter? Our health information is not necessary to buy a shirt at the GAP. Much more severe viruses have been floating around this planet for thousands of years and no need to prove you were not a carrier before stepping on a plane.
"It is not a big deal, it's just a shot and they have a right to refuse service." Bull shit. If you cannot tell the difference between handing over medical information to the ****ing teenager across the counter for a Big Mac and not wearing shirts or shoes, there is no help for you.
You are free to not solicit a business if you don’t like it’s rules.
Nice civil responses here.
I'm sure some entrepreneur will start an "All Anti-VAX" airline that will do quite nicely. Or not
Capitalism.
Immunization cards have been needed for certain international travel for years, for things such as yellow fever. Also has long been required by colleges, schools, etc....
Find another hill to die on there, Ayn. Or don't, and enjoy driving or buy your own plane. It's a free country, after all.
There will be no civility when this kind of intrusion into people's personal business is involved. We are all owed a right to privacy and the idea that government or business should have the right to take that from anyone should be something we are all against.
The government relying on businesses to enforce rules that they could not enforce is not the social compact I agreed to. You junior totalitarians are going to willfully go into the abyss.
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Taking the debate about airlines (or other items) in a different direction, suppose someone had the flu, should they be allowed to board a plane, attend a basketball game, or whatever without disclosing it? Do people have a right to willfully infect others? Who has the compelling right, person A to travel while sick or person B to travel without getting sick?
The totalitarians have lost a lot of power, read this article about the smallpox vaccine. The police literally held people down and they were vaccinated. People with smallpox were taken, by force if necessary, to quarantine.
Doubtless those are too far, but smallpox killed millions over the years. When does society have the right to tell a person they present a serious risk to the health of others?
That is a difficult question. I think some of it depends on person A's illness. I'd almost guarantee you that everyone on here has went to work with the common cold and infected other people either directly or indirectly. However, COVID is more deadly than the flu or common cold no matter how many people want to label it as just another disease similar to the flu. Just looking at the graph below anyone can see that there have been a lot more deaths than normal.
Just from the standpoint of human decency I would not want to go out in public with the virus and maybe infect someone who might die BUT if I just had a common cold that would not keep me home.
Maybe it is not their business, and you don't have to fly with them either. The airlines can keep people from flying on their planes for any number of reasons. You do not have the absolute right to board a United Airlines aircraft.
We (on the right) thought a few years ago that a baker has the right to deny baking a cake for someone based on their sexual preference ( I still do, BTW, which puts me in the minority here, I know), but you don't think United has a right to deny a certain customer for public safety reasons, in what amounts to the biggest public health event in a century?
With the caveat that 'freedom' has to fit within a certain religious or shall I say 'Christian western' culture as Tucker calls it while winking at the camera.
At that level there is less personal freedom, it's the order of things and if you comply to that belief system then yes, you have freedom.
It is their business to avoid needlessly facilitating the deaths of their customers. You have no right to use their business and say "F**K their rules"
Is it none of the cops business whether you have been drinking or not, before you get behind the wheel?
Hey! It’s no one’s business if I have Ebola and get on this packed airplane!
Good point.
Along the same lines, what about people with STD's who exercise their freedom of pleasuring themselves without regard for others ?
We the People elect people to pass laws and to protect us in national emergencies while others can refuse to obey on the libertarian grounds of personal freedom trumping government authority. Heck, we are all libertarians to some degree and in respect to some government edicts and laws.
Laws and personal freedom will always be in conflict with our courts often being the decider.. Not necessarily the final decider, however, as laws and court rulings do change and are overturned.
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Being an agnostic (at best) for many years, I'm not sure what you are talking about. While I try to respect people's religious views, I do not give a opinion based upon religion more credibility than any other point of view. What are you trying to say?
I think he is saying that some people that have issue with govt telling them what to do in some instances are fine with the govt telling people what to do if it is based on their religious beliefs. For example, they are against mask mandates but they are fine with the govt telling gay people they can't marry because it is agreeable with their religious beliefs
