That was a case about “inferred declassification.”, which has nothing to do with classified docs at Mar a Lago that may have been declassified by Trump.
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Here you go. Good old Hank Johnson, who worried Wake Island would tip over if too much equipment was put on the island. Always cracks me up you think Walker was dumb - he's Einstein compared to this Democrat.
‘I’m suspicious’: Democrat suggests Biden classified documents were ‘planted’
Rep. Hank Johnson, Georgia Democrat, suggested that President Biden didn’t mishandle classified information during his post-vice-presidency because the “alleged” papers may have been planted on him.
Yes, but it's OK. They reported it right away. Well, 6 years later, but you get the idea.
Nothing to see here.
Normally, they'd have burned those docs. But even Dems don't want Biden to run again.
Notice how they 'found' the docs before the election, but waited until it was well over - including the Georgia run-off - before it was announced.
Sorry, I posted the same thing before I read your post. lol
Lol. I must say seeing what I thought were some of the more intelligent posters on this board participate in this Kabuki theater has been disappointing. The disbelief they’re willing to suspend to contend that the DOJ hasn’t suffered from partisan capture is galling.
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Actually, the answer is to look at who he was running against.
There is NO WAY a system works where a president can declassify documents without telling someone the date and the document that is declassified. How on earth can a court rule on FOI requests if there is zero record of declassification. Heck, as far as we know Trump might have thought to himself one day "I declassify everything" and we have nothing declassified.
There has to be a record of what is declassified and when. If Donald Trump has that record (or if Obama has that record for Biden), great. I am sure with the many tweets you follow you can point me to where that list exists for the documents found at with Trump.
I don't get this serious love affair you have with Trump. Why must he be perfect for you? It is very easy for me to say "Biden screwed up with those documents and if the House wants to impeach, I don't care". But Trump's cult of personality requires perfect obedience, Trump has to be presented as never erring. As a Christian I only accept one man as ever having been perfect and sometimes I wonder if his humanity prevented that.
Trump screwed up. In taking the documents, though it could have been a mistake (one that shouldn't have happened but mistakes do happen). His real mistake was when it was discovered he had these documents either 1) not immediately searching for and returning all documents or 2) not immediately providing some official record that all these documents were declassified.
The "everything I have at home is declassified and I never told anyone what they were" is crap. Suppose he accidentally took home the name of all our agents in Russia, China, Iran. Would you be happy that under alleged standing order the NY Times could print those names? Of course not, I may disagree with you on virtually everything, but unlike Mas I know you are a patriot. You wouldn't want to see that happen. But in this scenario you are playing out, that is exactly what could happen.
Eleven late-night posts in a row. Is this how you relax before going to bed - - by angrily and irrationally lashing out at your enemies while defending the "honor" of your favorite former president? Hilarious.
They should have been tracking Biden’s documents. Amazing, storing them next to his Corvette. All you can say is Trump bad. 😂
Digest the fact our country’s top secret documents in a garage next to a Corvette.
I know I know whutabout Trump. 😂
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That's HALF what I said. I said "Biden: bad, bad, bad! Trump: even worse!"
I can’t speak for Danc. I don’t love Trump at all. In fact it’s time for him to go into retirement and enjoy himself playing golf.
Myself and many of my friends liked the policies Trump put in place while president. We particularly liked that he didn’t bend over like many Republican politicians. He gave the middle finger to the left wing media and the Washington establishment.
We’re sick of the lies of scumbags like Adam Schiff, screaming Russian Collusion and that he had proof. He had no proof. And all the while he’s telling Twitter to ban people calling him on his lies. Why don’t the media check this out?
His sex offending buddy drugging and killing people. Shifty is scum just like his buddy. And yet whutabout Trump.
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wow, if you held republicans to the same standards as you hold those evil dems lol
Who’s president right now? What would happen to Mr Bing and Aloha if they “misplaced” top secret documents in their garages next to their Corvettes? Oh, and as The Big Guy said it’s not like they were in the street, the garage was locked. Our president. 😂
I want Epstein’s little black book made public. Expose all, Dems and Pubs! Why isn’t that happening? The damn swamp, that’s why!
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The irony that you care about a handful of classified documents when the other person had boxes of them and it wasn't much of an issue.
That doesn't address the question on Trump. Why is it so hard to say "Trump screwed up" with the documents. I can easily say it with Biden, and with Clinton, they screwed up. Why can't some say that about Trump?
We know there is a long history of not pursuing charges in cases like these, unless there are extenuating circumstances, the record is very clear. If it can be argued the mishandling was an honest mistake, the leaders are told to be more careful and everything goes along. for example, Patraeus was only charged because he shared the info with a reporter which makes "an honest mistake" hard to argue.
That said, we need penalties even for honest mistakes to make sure people work hard to not have them. I have suggested hefty fines as an option. We can't take a president's clearance from them, though we could with virtually anyone else (which probably would mean losing their job). But even for a Berger, a Patraeus, a Clinton, Trump, Biden, we could slap them with fines. We can't make that retroactive, but if congress wants to pursue such legislation (and NOT exempting themselves) I fully support it.
So nothing about policies, really. You just like that he pwned the libs.
If you're going to play the "which hiding place was worse" game, you lose. Trump kept his stash in an office and a storage room (with a flimsy lock) that could have been easily accessed by the pool boy or any one of the hundreds of people (including Chinese nationals who breached security) attending parties at his club.
Here's the deal. It appears they both badly mishandled confidential documents, but that's where the similarity ends. Biden and his team have fully cooperated with the National Archives and DOJ; Trump and his team impeded efforts to retrieve the documents from the get-go and obstructed the investigation that followed.
You're too funny, mac. He's noctural. He sleeps by day because he's exhausted from his nightly shitposting.
Sounds like the DOJ and archives have already gotten the Biden documents, 2 months in.
Whereas... 2+ YEARS in, we are still wondering where Trump hid stuff that's still missing. Maybe in the casket of his ex-wife, who he buried on his golf course so that it could be reclassified as a cemetery and get him tax breaks!
Whereas... 2+ YEARS in, we are still wondering where Trump hid stuff that's still missing. Maybe in the casket of his ex-wife, who he buried on his golf course so that it could be reclassified as a cemetery and get him tax breaks!
Sometimes I think he might run a senior living center. So he’s busy with their activities during the day then once he puts everyone down he can post. In the evening
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Can it really be biden's fault anyway?
According to our fellow conservatives, he has dementia and thus should not be responsible for what he has clearly forgotten lol
In it. Like the self appointed volunteer who manages the inmates’ events. These posters are opportunists. They know he’s snoozing. When he’s up and caffeinated I’ve seen him handle as many as a dozen posters at one time. On multiple boards. Like he’s got a Gatling gun. Then the board will clear itself out. Look at last night. He was the only on the board. They can’t handle that smoke!!
Trump, Biden, the Clintons, GWB.
beyond belief insane anyone would back any of these corrupt dishonest total disasters of human scum.
from a known pathological liar with zero ethics or morals trying to overturn an election, to a lifelong corrupt with serious cognition issues, to corrupt Wall St shill neocons masking as friends of the working man, who did as much to fk the working man as Reagan and enabled and insured the 2008 meltdown, to a total idiot who lied his ass off to take us into 20 yrs of war we are far far worse off for than before, with zero positives to show for it.
and that's before even mentioning Obama, Reagan, McConnell, Pelosi, or the full house of corrupt lying PsOS who serve only themselves and the rich at everyone else's expense.
and all the beyond idiot sock puppets who spend their time defending and promoting any of this pile of human sht.
you guys should all be ashamed of yourselves for defending any of this scum, regardless of if it's total stupidity or total dishonesty on your part.
for the total idiots, wake up.
for the dishonest, be better.
beyond belief insane anyone would back any of these corrupt dishonest total disasters of human scum.
from a known pathological liar with zero ethics or morals trying to overturn an election, to a lifelong corrupt with serious cognition issues, to corrupt Wall St shill neocons masking as friends of the working man, who did as much to fk the working man as Reagan and enabled and insured the 2008 meltdown, to a total idiot who lied his ass off to take us into 20 yrs of war we are far far worse off for than before, with zero positives to show for it.
and that's before even mentioning Obama, Reagan, McConnell, Pelosi, or the full house of corrupt lying PsOS who serve only themselves and the rich at everyone else's expense.
and all the beyond idiot sock puppets who spend their time defending and promoting any of this pile of human sht.
you guys should all be ashamed of yourselves for defending any of this scum, regardless of if it's total stupidity or total dishonesty on your part.
for the total idiots, wake up.
for the dishonest, be better.
When voting, there is always a CHOICE to be made. If every candidate on the ballot is a scumbag, you choose the least scummy scumbag. Biden was the less scummy scumbag of the two main alternatives in the last presidential election.
we have primaries too you know, for both Pubs and Dems.
that's where the scum wins out.
SCOTUS being installed by money for money and all media now being corporate, thus not able to serve any interest other than the short term financial insterests of their ownership, doesn't help.
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I don't have a 'serious love affair with Trump". But the 2 levels of justice in the US should have you outraged. I agree there should have been some way - whether verbal or written - for him to declassify if he wanted to take those docs home. But do we know what he did or didn't? No, I don't think we do. I'm willing to hear his side of it, which seems to be out of vogue these days.
If he screwed up, fine. There's a Special Counsel on it. The DOJ can then decide to indict or not. But to claim Trump's situation is so much worse than Biden's is just laughable.
John Kelly first reaction to meeting Trump: much dumber and more amoral . One of the workers at The Apprentice: just shockingly stupid. It’s bracing, like a cold slap. Find someone who works for President Biden who speaks about him this way? You might judge him from afar, yet multiple people who work closely with Trump confirm his utter stupidity.
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