That's just an "if you ain't with me, you're agin me" attitude talking.
Top secret documents
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Depends . . . on whether he's an IU grad . . . if he is then, sanctions apply. If he's a UNC grad . . . nope.
I'd say confine all review of classified information and up to specific supervised rooms. No check outs allowed . . . for anyone. That's what Tim Kaine said he has to do with classified materials. Use the rules applicable to senators for everybody.Can't swing a dead cat around here without hitting "misfiled" "classified" documents.
I'm less worried about hard copies than I am the electronic versions hackable from a potty server.
But ... remember who we are dealing with ....
A couple of legendary examples of biased journalism right off the top of my head are “fiery but mostly peaceful protests” from CNN during the Kenosha riots and “austere religious scholar” from WAPO to describe a terrorist because they didn’t like the fact that Trump was the one who got him.
I can find you a lot more with very little effort.
You can’t argue that the mainstream media isn’t left biased and expect to be taken seriously.
With the exception of Fox News, which is just as bad in the other direction.
There must be new procedures put in place for politicians. We obviously have a crisis.
Well crap, now we can't nail biden..
At this point, I'm about to check my house for classified documents.
And just like that, A house committee has found 33,000 redacted, earlier thought to be lost, email.
And the DC pendulum swings back the other direction.
And the DC pendulum swings back the other direction.
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I'm not sure how obvious it is.
Without seeing the documents or knowing the information contained in them, how old it is, what it pertains to, etc., I'm not sure how big a deal any of this is.
The FBI clearly thought it was a big deal when they carried out an unprecedented up to that point raid on a former president.
I'm thinking you weren't here during the 2016 campaign. Aloha spent more time attacking Hillary than anyone from the moment the case first came to light. It was practically the only election issue he posted about...
Now this gets really deep from here on out!
Article might be accurate, but I also think using “anti-abortion activist” rather than the preferred “pro-life activists” exposes their bias the same as using “pro-abortion activists” would. Shouldn’t have done that if they want to be perceived as neutrally reporting the news.
So far, kamalalala is saying, How you like me now?
Giving a speech. "There is something about secrets, top secrets have the words top and secrets in the name top secret. We should know this as the words were right there, top and secret. I rode a school bus. that has the words school and bus in it".
@shudder
Giving a speech. "There is something about secrets, top secrets have the words top and secrets in the name top secret. We should know this as the words were right there, top and secret. I rode a school bus. that has the words school and bus in it".
@shudder
That’s not quite accurate either. I posted a lot about HRC’s email scandal, but I had plenty of posts about Trump, Bernie and Warren too. I couldn’t support any of them for President for various reasons.
Is this also where we discuss Charles McGonigal? Or do "we" want to wait on more data?
I don’t think this qualifies, so you’re goodAt this point, I'm about to check my house for classified documents.
So why couldn't they look back see some hadn't been returned?
It's becoming more and more obvious that there are procedure and protocol that our beloved military are held to, and then there is Stare decisis that politicians get to enjoy. We all take them. so what ? We are smarter than you!
Trump started this. He said he would drain the swamp. True patriot. He had to force the FBI and the MSM to leverage documents that he de-classfied, outside of their knoweldge, to allow them to start their own fire. Always allow the enemy to kill themselves. Or so to speak.
Bias for sure. It gets overblown by Trumpster though. Anything even remotely negative said about him and instantly that person is LIBERAL MEDIA! or a RINO! Their hyper reaction and need to protect their leader is not seen any where else in the US political world.
I am going to compare it to pilots, pilots have a checklist they must follow. We have the treat each item as critical because we don't want to trust their judgement that item #10 doesn't really matter. They do every step in the right order, that guarantees the critically important is done.
If a politician is making calls, "oh, this one doesn't really matter" it will certainly get mistakes made where it does matter.
Or we can use a friend in a band that quoted an old saw, amateurs play something until the get it right, pros play something until they can't get it wrong.
When it comes to this data, I don't want it wrong. It is possible, I bet neither @Aloha Hoosier or @MrBing have classified data in their garage.
Use media and Alphabet soup agencies, with congress and courts. Our government is out of freaking control. I know this is messy, but we have allowed some self proclaimed Messiah's to crown themselves. I want more stupid rednecks in leadership. They are more understanding and will support the country as those who built it.
Two things. I didn't know you were a pilot? What ya fly?
In today's climate, Aloha and Bing don't have classified doc's in their possession, because they are not running for office, they actually have morals and they have respect for duty. Not in that order of course.
I don't fly, but I have known some pilots. And years ago there was a movement I read about to force surgeons to use the same principles to reduce medical errors.
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I agree with everything you say. I'm just pointing out I'm not sure how much of a crisis this is.
All classified docs aren't the same and I've heard of no report yet where the US was hurt by Pence, Trump, or Biden.
Ok, you started with They in that post, and then sprinkled in some "we's". I though you where trying to be koy.
It seems that a movement to make surgeons use a specific proceedure of the 1950's, would totally derail any improvement opportunities (we don't conduct many 1950 procedures here in 2023). But that would be the communist way, so it makes sense. All progress must be approved from the over lords, at their potential for profit. I get it.
Do you expect a report, on any of the above, that you can honestly trust? And I mean trust like.. You put your own nuts in a guillotine, trust? Not my rep posting on a message board, your boys either are with you or they are not, type trust.
the current nuke launch codes is not the same as something FDR said in secret to his WWII generals.
not all classified material is equal, or anything close to equal, other than it all being classified.
without knowing the contents of any of these documents, it's flat impossible to assign a level of impropriety to the holding of said documents.
reality is, any of these documents once held in private outside of safe containment could have been copied 1,000 times and digitized.
once it's left the safe rooms, it should be assumed that whatever info was classified, is no longer secret.
the problem with Trump's refusal to return docs, is that without knowing exactly what he took, we can't know what secrets he has sold, or threatened to sell, or could threaten to sell.
same could be said for anything Biden or Pence or Obama or Bush or Clinton or anyone else has.
it's all about the contents of the classified material taken and kept. not just that it was classified.
trying to equate the holding of document "A" with the holding of document B, or 10 documents with 200 documents, is literally impossible absent knowing the contents of the documents and their relevance at the time they were taken.
not all classified material is equal, or anything close to equal, other than it all being classified.
without knowing the contents of any of these documents, it's flat impossible to assign a level of impropriety to the holding of said documents.
reality is, any of these documents once held in private outside of safe containment could have been copied 1,000 times and digitized.
once it's left the safe rooms, it should be assumed that whatever info was classified, is no longer secret.
the problem with Trump's refusal to return docs, is that without knowing exactly what he took, we can't know what secrets he has sold, or threatened to sell, or could threaten to sell.
same could be said for anything Biden or Pence or Obama or Bush or Clinton or anyone else has.
it's all about the contents of the classified material taken and kept. not just that it was classified.
trying to equate the holding of document "A" with the holding of document B, or 10 documents with 200 documents, is literally impossible absent knowing the contents of the documents and their relevance at the time they were taken.
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So if some employees at a news outlet are biased, then the entire news outlet is biased?
That would be a bit like implying everyone at fox news is as looney as carlson.
