I do think think there’s is some truth in that. I just don’t know that libs always have the best path. In my nonprofit board days the first person they wanted to cut when money was tight was the development guy. “He isn’t providing a direct service”
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Or we could provide you with a thousand articles showing journalists lean left and you can ignore them and stick to your entrenched views….So you're going to cut and run?
I don't think that I'm doing the same old waltz. I'm challenging your notion that today's media is biased in favor of Democrats. Dan Rather hasn't been a news anchor since 2006. You haven't addressed this . . . instead you've relied on the old saw that the "media" is biased in favor of Democrats and against Publicans. I don't think that's true. I think Publicans want media biased in their favor . . . and when the "media" don't oblige and ask uncomfortable questions they get pissed. On Face The Nation on Sunday Margaret Brennan was asking a GOP representative - Mike Turner - from Ohio about the classified material found at Biden locations. Turner wanted to conflate the Biden and Trump classified documents matters, and Brennan clarified the differences between the two . . . is that "biased" in favor of Biden? I don't think so . . . I think it's fact-based, not preferring either one.
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Let the chips fall. I'm OK with that.
A thousand? You haven't shown me one recent one. You're the one with "entrenched views".
I like that too. Not sure how accurate it is but I use itRegarding media bias, here's a useful service:
Media Bias
Everyone is biased — and that’s okay. But hidden media bias misleads, manipulates and divides us. AllSides makes media bias transparent, helping you to easily identify different perspectives so you can get the full picture and think for yourself.www.allsides.com
This is a far better argument than yours, which is at once absurd and untenable. It’s commonly accepted, except by you, that journalists lean left. That they can still be objective is the better question. Nevertheless like crazy I’m out. We’ve done this dance before.
Tell me why my argument - which is that market competition has affected the way news outlets cover politics - is absurd and untenable. "Commonly accepted" doesn't cut it. It's the same as "everybody knows", which means nobody really knows.
Evidently some of Biden's docs were from when he was a Senator. So how did a Senator, Joe Biden, get them outside a secure facility?
Commonly accepted by their own self identification. You claim journalists are not primarily left leaning. That’s simply not true. They are. I posit that their personal beliefs influence what they cover. Human nature.
OK. I hear you. What I'm getting from this exchange if that you think journalists are and always will be left-leaning, and that affects their reporting to a bias in favor of Democratic politicians.
My contention is that those same journalists are not as biased as you think, and that their reporting can be trusted.
Are we on the same page about our respective positions?
WTF? Can you imagine how many classified docs are floating around the country?
Hey, I just found a couple of classified documents in my desk. What next?
First on CNN: Classified documents found at Pence's Indiana home | CNN Politics
A lawyer for former Vice President Mike Pence discovered about a dozen documents marked as classified at Pence's Indiana home last week, and he has turned those classified records over to the FBI, multiple sources familiar with the matter told CNN.
You mean he didn't give them back to the National Archives first so no one would notice?First on CNN: Classified documents found at Pence's Indiana home | CNN Politics
A lawyer for former Vice President Mike Pence discovered about a dozen documents marked as classified at Pence's Indiana home last week, and he has turned those classified records over to the FBI, multiple sources familiar with the matter told CNN.www.cnn.com
No, wait...it was just the directions to an IKEA dresser. Never mind.
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And be given weeks and weeks of a coverup. What Did Pence get, 2 hours? As someone above said, It's not that they aren't biased, their just not THAT biased. muahahaha
So you also posit that their personal beliefs influence how they cover what they cover?
You think that's bad...just wait until my wife realizes I shredded those instructions. We hadn't put it together yet.
I'll take that hangman's noose now.
I believe so. And part of that is perception and perhaps my own bias. I think it’s human nature. And the market may mitigate it to an extent over time but what the market dictates isn’t always congruent with truth. Fox News by way of example
Having been in the CNN Washington bureau offices and seeing a majority of the on-air talents’ offices and meeting rooms I would strongly posit that personal beliefs are a strong factor.
Regarding what? What they cover? Or how they cover it?
You might be in Georgia on occasion, but that only gets you so far . . . .
Both. Do you truly think CNN would cover The March for Life? And, then, on the off-hand chance they did, would they cover it in any way other than declaring it’s just a bunch of anti-abortionists trying to deny basic womens rights?
I should have taken pictures of Jake Tapper’s office.
1. I'll let CNN's coverage speak for itself: https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/20/politics/march-for-life-2023-abortion/index.html
2. Yes, you should have . . . why didn't you? We've been counting on you.
If you look at allsides media you’ll see where cnn falls. I would agree with their list
I would say abc, cbs, nbc, wash post, ny times, cnn, msnbc, AP lean left. That’s a who’s who of media
I've got Allsides bookmarked.
That said, what do you find objectionable about CNN's article (linked above) regarding the MFL?
The first three words - Anti-abortion activists. That’s the signal. Didn’t lead with: Pro-Life supporters.
Abortion rights folks hate “Pro-abortion activists.” If a similar article covered an abortion rights march and led with that I would have a pretty good idea of the author’s beliefs.
I didn’t read it. I stopped reading cnn. Cnn. MSNBC. Fox. I don’t bother anymore.
It's pretty darned factual about what the organizers of the MFL's goals are . . . I didn't see any editorializing like Univee presumed would be there . . . other than to call those in attendance "anti-abortionists", which does not grant those in attendance their preferred "pro-life" descriptors. But my sense is that it's an accurate recounting factually nonetheless.
The funny thing is....He self reported. Does that mean he can't campaign for the next 2 years because he put himself on probation?
Can't swing a dead cat around here without hitting "misfiled" "classified" documents.
I'm less worried about hard copies than I am the electronic versions hackable from a potty server.
But ... remember who we are dealing with ....
I'm less worried about hard copies than I am the electronic versions hackable from a potty server.
But ... remember who we are dealing with ....
I would have to refer you to the white house council's office.
