Is this the progressive way of sending thoughts and prayers to those who are abnormally DEAD, from the hands of joe's party and handlers playing Political social engineering, at OUR expense??
The Southern border boogeyman
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Is the dramatic influx of Fentanyl just propaganda foisted by "bogeymen"???
Nothing to see here says the WC's version of MSNBC's Joy... 🙄
Democrats truly live in a fantasy world and it's clearly a complete waste of time even attempting to engage with them... Unless this type of crime directly affects them it's just "propaganda" perpetuated by "bogeymen"...
You mean like school shootings?
Just imagine the media response if all this happened under a Trump Presidency.
Are the crime rates for illegals higher than for US citizens or for those that have entered legally through a designated point of entry?
The good ole days...when artistic representations of truth weren't uncomfortable...
****ing most realistic scene in any American movie...(2:45 if you're impatient).
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Nope. The are highest for citizens, lower for legal immigrants, and lowest for illegal immigrants.
Edit: At least, that's the case with violent crime. Might get complicated with nonviolent crime, I'm not sure.
Links? Also, are number of “unsolved” cases up? How successful are police at catching illegals committing crimes? If they are illegals & are undocumented, it seems difficult to support this statistically…
I'm on my phone right now. You really don't know how to look at FBI and DHS crime statistics?
I'm assuming... as a northern lib, renting, and living with his parents, that you've never had a gun to your head from either...
1) Southern Urban Black kids
2) Mexican carjacking gangsters
And understandably, you don't understand the border issues.
Fair enough.
I’m not sure how confident we should be in these numbers. There could be a lot of reasons why illegal immigrants are convicted at a lower rate, for example.
Of course, those claiming illegal immigrants are much more dangerous should probably bear the burden of proof here, even if we want to use a lower standard.
There are very obvious reasons why illegals commit less crime than legal aliens who commit less crime than citizens. This isn't rocket science.
I play cards with JD Shelnutt. He'd love to kick all you non-material, non-paying shitlibs off this site.
Mcmurtry will be the one and only Mod.
I've always wondered how non-payers become Mods.
I am fully paid up, by the way - I'll volunteer my services.
Like the late IHSAA Commissioner Gene Cato, I'll be strict but fair.
True, there are reasons. But I don't think looking at this stuff a priori make much sense. Weird things happen for reasons we don't know all the time.
For example, why would these reasons hold true in the US and not in Europe, where some studies show a positive (albeit weak, due, again to poor data) link between immigration and crime in some countries (which, again, could be due to a host of factors not related to immigrants being somehow more immoral than the indigent population)?
From what I can tell, the studies are all over the map and the data just isn't very good on a lot of this stuff:
Immigration and crime - Wikipedia
chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://aisberg.unibg.it/bitstream/10446/288/1/WPEco01(2008)Bianchi.pdf
What makes matters worse is that there are usually two factions in each nation that seem to want the numbers to be higher or lower, and so it's hard to know who to trust, who's fudging what (or redefining terms) to get the results they want.
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The collaborative appreciates your service.
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You know he’s one of my all time favorite characters in a movie. THEN *****IN PRACTICE RANDY YOU OLD BUZZARD.
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The Iranian top hit man is awfully fat. Seems counter-intuitive but fat asses can pull a trigger too I guess
You made the claim, & must have researched the subject, I just want to make sure I’m looking at the same data as you are.
That's not a real study. That's a press release put out by a nativist advocacy group.
Is this just "propaganda"?
🙄You're amazing (and not in a positive way).
It's true. Anyone who is objective knows what the CIS is, and even if you didn't, you could read that link and tell that it's not a "study" of any sort. Where are the data tables and methodology?
Fair enough, but simply posting a series of cherry-picked examples certainly doesn't make any sense. It's just patent fear-mongering.True, there are reasons. But I don't think looking at this stuff a priori make much sense. Weird things happen for reasons we don't know all the time.
For example, why would these reasons hold true in the US and not in Europe, where some studies show a positive (albeit weak, due, again to poor data) link between immigration and crime in some countries (which, again, could be due to a host of factors not related to immigrants being somehow more immoral than the indigent population)?
From what I can tell, the studies are all over the map and the data just isn't very good on a lot of this stuff:
Immigration and crime - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://aisberg.unibg.it/bitstream/10446/288/1/WPEco01(2008)Bianchi.pdf
What makes matters worse is that there are usually two factions in each nation that seem to want the numbers to be higher or lower, and so it's hard to know who to trust, who's fudging what (or redefining terms) to get the results they want.
I already posted my logic based on numbers above. Is it a rigorous study? Not at all. But at least it's logical and has data behind it, which is far more useful than "Look at this link of this one bad migrant!"
So which links/data you are referencing dispute or disprove the data or conclusions of this press release?
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